As we keep discussing it in various threads.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/25/pokemon-go-nintendo-shares-tokyo-stock-exchange-niantic
QuoteNintendo shares plummet after it points out it doesn't make Pokémon Go
Nintendo's share price on the Tokyo Stock Exchange has plummeted 17% in one day, apparently due to investors belatedly discovering that the company doesn't actually make Pokémon Go, the latest mobile gaming phenomenon.
The company is still buoyant, though: Since the game launched in mid-July, Nintendo's share price has more than doubled.
The cause of Monday's decline was seemingly a statement put out by Nintendo after the close of trading on Friday, the day Pokémon Go was finally released in Japan.
The statement pointed out that, despite the long-running association of Nintendo with Pokémon – an association which seems to have driven investors' movements – it neither makes, nor owns, Pokémon Go. That fact was never hidden by any of the companies involved, and has been noted in some reports on Pokémon Go, but the fact seems to have taken investors by surprise.
Nintendo's statement clarified that Pokémon Go "is developed and distributed by Niantic, Inc", an independent company spun off from Google in August 2015. Both Google and Nintendo hold stakes in Niantic. It added that Nintendo owns 32% of the voting power within the Pokémon Company, which itself will receive "a licensing fee and compensation for collaboration in development and operations".
Because of those facts, Nintendo concluded, "the income reflected on the company's consolidated business results is limited". It will make more direct income from Pokémon Go Plus, a peripheral due to be released this summer which will allow partial interaction with the game without the need to turn on the phone, but that income too is already reflected in the company's predictions for the 2016–17 financial year.
Taken as a whole, the statement is clear: Nintendo's not getting rich from Pokémon Go anytime soon.
But while the direct income streams are limited, there are still reasons for investor positivity in the company following Pokémon Go's success. Nintendo has already released one smartphone game directly, Miitomo, but its longstanding refusal to allow its largest properties to leave its own hardware ecosystem has left shareholders concerned. The Wii U holds a distant third place in the home console market, and while the New 3DS is the leading portable console, it is dwarfed by the size of the mobile phone gaming market.
Even if Nintendo doesn't take much cash home from Pokémon Go, the game's success could convince the company to put more efforts into its home-grown smartphone development. If it does, that could signal a longer term reversal in the company's fortunes than any one game could ever provide.
The company is already moving forward with another partnership, with Japanese mobile developer DeNA, which will provide it with a more direct income stream from mobile games. The first two games from that partnership will be based on the company's b-tier franchises Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem
Seriously, the first thing you encounter when you load up the app is the logo of the company that makes the game. :lol:
Investors are idiots.
It is rather amazing one would center ones investment strategy over one product and not even be aware who makes the product :hmm:
Anyway I took David out Pokehunting last night and once again surrealness took hold. He went up to basically everybody who had a cell phone and asked them if they were playing Pokemon Go. Even boomer ladies in their 60s. And strangely...he was right every time. Old granny hippies are playing this thing. What the hell?
Not interested. Primarily because I have no idea about Pokemon. I have never watched any and I have no clue what the story is about.
Quote from: Monoriu on July 25, 2016, 10:17:53 AM
Not interested. Primarily because I have no idea about Pokemon. I have never watched any and I have no clue what the story is about.
It is really complicated.
I understand the novelty factor which did captivate me for about 2 full minutes, but I fail to see an actual game here.
Quote from: Monoriu on July 25, 2016, 10:17:53 AM
Not interested. Primarily because I have no idea about Pokemon. I have never watched any and I have no clue what the story is about.
I have never watched the show either. Um you catch little cute monsters and evolve them into big ferocious looking monsters. So far as I can tell that is the story :lol:
Quote from: Tamas on July 25, 2016, 10:31:13 AM
I understand the novelty factor which did captivate me for about 2 full minutes, but I fail to see an actual game here.
Yes, I wonder if it'll die off once nostalgia wears through unless they inject it with new features (a key being real time battles with people near you).
Quote from: Valmy on July 25, 2016, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on July 25, 2016, 10:17:53 AM
Not interested. Primarily because I have no idea about Pokemon. I have never watched any and I have no clue what the story is about.
I have never watched the show either. Um you catch little cute monsters and evolve them into big ferocious looking monsters. So far as I can tell that is the story :lol:
Surely there are also battles with other pokemon owners?
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 25, 2016, 11:56:11 AM
Surely there are also battles with other pokemon owners?
Yes. You go to various gyms where you fight them and there are three teams you can join. But that seems to mainly exist for you to get crushed by people with far more spare time than a five year old whoses dad takes him out for a few hours a couple times a week.
Need to get in some sort of little league I guess.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 25, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
Need to get in some sort of little league I guess.
Oh we will fight eventually if this game holds his attention span long enough but you need to have a Pokemon powered up to at least 1000 CP, whatever CP stands for, or so to be competitive it seems like. We still have a ways to go. We fought once with our 400 CP Pokemon and we seemed to lose pretty fast and I was not really certain what was going on.
I predict a full blown public re-branding exercise that Nintendo et al wouldn't want; pokemon Go suicides, pokemon Go car accidents, PG grade drop off, PG romances, PG kidnappings, PG bullying, PG child lost in woods, PG walk of cliff, PG housefire un-noticed, PG politics, PG paedophiles, etc.
Quote from: Valmy on July 25, 2016, 12:15:18 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 25, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
Need to get in some sort of little league I guess.
Oh we will fight eventually if this game holds his attention span long enough but you need to have a Pokemon powered up to at least 1000 CP, whatever CP stands for, or so to be competitive it seems like. We still have a ways to go. We fought once with our 400 CP Pokemon and we seemed to lose pretty fast and I was not really certain what was going on.
CP = Combat Power.
You can still win against higher level enemies because you have a lineup of six pokemon to bring to the battle. Basically, you wear down the weakest pokemon with your line up (or the two or three weakest ones, if you're strong enough); then you revive and heal your beaten pokemons and go at it again. I took down an enemy held gym with three pokemons at lvl ~500, lvl ~750, ~1150 with my lvl 700 and five CP ~200 using that technique.
It's best to do so not at a high traffic area (because other people will get in on it and mess up your attack), at least not unless there's a bunch of you.
Not sure what the deal is.
Back in my day, I used to see strange creatures that no one else could see too. Except I didn't need a phone...well, other than to call my dealer.
thank you...I do an encore at 6.
Not big on the way quantity over quality is the way forward. My poor bulbasaur is stuck on cp 40 whilst my bat army flourishes
Freaking zubat
Freaking zubat indeed.
Quote from: garbon on July 25, 2016, 07:42:06 AM
As we keep discussing it in various threads.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/25/pokemon-go-nintendo-shares-tokyo-stock-exchange-niantic
:lol:
Not the best day for the harder versions of the efficient market hypothesis.
Any article that starts with 'Pokémon Go players outraged'...
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/aug/01/pokemon-go-maps-shut-down-game-update-tracking
QuotePokémon Go players outraged after maps shut down by game update
Sites and apps that allow trainers to locate specific Pokémon have been shut down after game update removes nearby tracking
Pokémon Go players are up in arms after an update to the game removed a feature that helped locate nearby Pokémon and forced third-party maps of Pokémon locations to shut down.
The game's first big update changed a variety of things about the app, including adding the ability to alter your trainer's appearance, tweaking the dynamics of curveballs, and changing part of the way gym battles work and improving the way users transfer unwanted Pokémon to professor Willow.
But the change with the biggest impact for the majority of players has been the removal of the footprint distance readings from the nearby Pokémon tracker. At the same time, services including Pokévision, which allowed players to spot where individual Pokémon were likely to pop up, have been forced to shut down.
Pokémon Go Reddit user Chopkins9 said: "I looked for 15 minutes with no luck and [the Pokémon] disappeared, now I'm quitting Pokémon Go. What's the point of this game without tracking?"
Hopps56 added: "This is becoming more frustrating then fun as the days go on ... If it wasn't for having to catch them all, I would of left this game when the tracking first went down hill."
"It was great in the early stages of the game, being able to track down Pokémon you didn't have, and evolving them. Now it's like, oh another Drowzee. Great. If I get a few more I can evolve a Hypno with maybe 10 CP higher than the best Hypno I have right now, which is one of a dozen Hypnos I've already evolved. It's just tedious grinding with no real payoff," said ThomasSirveaux.
"Pokémon Go went from a game that I go out to play, to a game I play when I'm out, to a game I never play," said Oxgmum, which was popular with the Reddit Pokémon Go community, gaining over 2,500 up votes.
Pokémon Go became an overnight sensation, attracting millions of players while launching in just Australia, New Zealand and the US. It was expanded to Europe a week later, and the home of Pokémon Japan, a week after that. The game has seen more than 100m downloads, and crowds flock to the streets jamming up bridges, roads and even walking into the sea in search of the game's illusive creatures.
How long Pokémon Go hysteria can last remains to be seen, but it has had a real-world impact on the businesses and areas frequented by players. Pubs, cafes, shops and public spaces have hopped on the bandwagon, encouraging players to spend time in their areas.
Fireblade was ranting about it all weekend. :lol:
Incidentally, I still think that Pokemon Go is the first stage of some nefarious super villain plot.
Several I know are uninstalling already
I have been playing and thoroughly enjoying it. I knew a tiny bit about pokemon from my sons friends or from people building pixelart pokemon on minecraft servers, but I have not played any prior iteration. My girlfriend has been all about it for months, so we started playing together on the games release. Walking around downtown where I love with large numbers of friendly excited people playing the same game is more than worth the price of admission. good times.
It won't work properly on my shitty, already-hated phone <_< :weep:
It's kinda fun, especially when playing in a group.
Since I work in downtown DC, my short walk to the metro takes my past like 10 pokestops; more if I go out of my way. Makes restocking easy. :D
Team Rocket finally gets their comeuppance:
Police tase Florida man after refusing to leave park while playing Pokémon GO (http://www.wtsp.com/news/florida-man-pokemon-go-arrest/279599569)
Florida Man: I choose you Pikachu!
Police Officer: I choose you Taser!
ZOT!
Hate how eggs work. Have to keep your screen on and game open or it doesn't count movement. I've got 10km and still not hatched a 2er
Quote from: Tyr on August 09, 2016, 09:24:46 AM
Hate how eggs work. Have to keep your screen on and game open or it doesn't count movement. I've got 10km and still not hatched a 2er
I think they purposefully did that though as nothing in game works with screen off or in background.
It seems to be working a bit better lately. Not that I'm playing too much lately.
Wonder if they'll ever fix gyms.
I get the impression they deliberately made them the way they did as it means to hold a gym you need a gang of team members with high level pokemon to setup there.
Still. Would be nice if they'd do something like stop you attacking and failing more than once in 24h
Confusing why the build gym level battles only allow 1 monster whilst assaulting allows 6.
Holy shit. We brought our daughter to the Pokezoo. 1830 and the zoo is packed! Like ridiculous packed where they ran out of parking full. And it's full of weirdos looking down at their phones. Oh wait, I'm posting while I walk too.lol
http://gizmodo.com/russian-blogger-charged-with-inciting-hatred-after-play-1786177309
QuoteRussian Blogger Charged With 'Inciting Hatred' After Playing Pokémon Go in Church
On Saturday, Russian officials announced that atheist vlogger Ruslan Sokolovsky has been detained for two months for "inciting hatred" and "insulting religious feelings" after posting a video of himself playing Pokémon Go inside a historic cathedral. He reportedly faces up to five years in jail if convicted.
In July, state-owned news channel Russia-24 warned that Pokémon Go users could be jailed under Russia's strict anti-blasphemy laws if they played the game in church. In protest, Sokolovsky filmed himself catching Pokémon in Yekaterinburg's Church of All Saints and shared the footage on YouTube.
According to Meduza, police began investigating Sokolovsky soon after, finally detaining the 22-year-old vlogger this weekend. In a statement, Russian Orthodox Church spokesman Vladimir Legoyda claimed it was the provocative nature of Sokolovsky's video—and not playing the game itself—that led to his arrest.
"It is clear that Mr. Sokolovsky was not a casual passerby, who in a fit of gaming passion went into the temple, but rather a well-known young blogger in the city, who works in the style of Charlie Hebdo," wrote Vladimir Legoyda on Facebook.
However, Jaroslav Nilov, head of the State Duma's religious affairs committee, said that investigators have not proven that Sokolovsky violated Russia's anti-blasphemy law and called his detention unnecessary.
"In my opinion, catching Pokémon is not an insult to religious feelings, because it is simply the use of a mobile phone application within religious buildings," Nilov told RIA Novosti.
People still live in Russia?