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Title: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Martinus on June 21, 2016, 02:26:20 PM
QuoteDutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined $845 after reporting she was raped
By Michael E. Miller June 14

The nightclub was hopping when Laura stepped away from her drink to dance. The 22-year-old Dutch tourist had come to Qatar on vacation with a friend. Now she was partying at one of the few places to drink alcohol in the country: the Crystal Lounge at the W Doha Hotel.

As she danced between a mirrored floor and swirling disco balls, however, Laura suddenly began to feel sick and blacked out, according to her attorney.

When she regained consciousness, she was in a stranger's apartment building. Her clothes were torn.

"Laura realizes from that moment that she was drugged and raped," Brian Lokollo, her attorney, told the Telegraaf. "She suspects that someone in an unguarded moment threw something into her drink."

When Laura went to Qatari police to file a report, the man she accused of raping her was quickly arrested.

But so was she — for reporting her own rape.

Laura spent the past three months in a Doha jail cell on a charge of adultery, according to the Associated Press. In Qatar, it is illegal to have sex out of wedlock.


On Monday, Laura was convicted by a Qatari court. She received a one-year suspended prison sentence and will likely be deported back to the Netherlands later this week, Yvette Van Eechoud, the Dutch ambassador to Qatar, told Al Jazeera after the hearing.

The man she accused has also been convicted, but not of rape. He has been sentenced to 140 lashings for adultery and public drunkenness, according to Al Jazeera.

The Washington Post generally does not identify victims of sexual assault. In this case, however, Laura's mother and attorney used her first name and photo in an attempt to pressure Qatari officials to release the young woman. Her first name has also been used in a social media campaign. The Post is not publishing her photo for privacy reasons.

Laura was released Monday into "the care of the Dutch Embassy," according to the AP.

"Glad that #Laura can soon come home," Bert Koenders, the Dutch foreign minister, said in a tweet after the decision. "Relieved."

Laura's mother was also happy to have her daughter headed home.

"I'm shaking in my legs. I can't believe it," she told Dutch news program EenVandaag, according to Al Jazeera. "She has been sentenced. I don't know for what but I don't care. This is the best I could have wished for."

Lokollo noted, however, that Laura had been fined roughly $845 for reporting her own rape.

The young woman's imminent deportation follows a sudden flurry of attention on the case after nearly three months of secrecy and silence.

But it will likely bring little comfort to the accuser, who is at least the third woman in recent years to be arrested in the region after reporting a rape.

The case also adds to ongoing concerns over Qatar's suitability to host the 2022 World Cup.

Laura was arrested in mid-March after telling police that she had been drugged and raped.

Her case remained out of the headlines until last week, however, when her mother shared Laura's first name, photo and story with Dutch media.

"It's a nightmare," Marian, also identified by only her first name, told the Telegraaf.

Marian said the trip to Qatar was her daughter's first independent holiday. Laura traveled to the oil-rich country with a friend.

Laura was drinking and dancing at the Crystal Lounge when she suddenly felt sick. From then on, she only remembers "snatches," according to Lokollo, her Dutch attorney.

Laura vaguely remembers a man grabbing her by the arm and taking her to a taxi, he said.

"Later she sees a man on top of her," Lokollo told the Telegraaf.

Upon regaining consciousness and realizing what happened, Laura contacted police, only to find herself arrested.

"Laura was accused immediately," Lokollo said. "A prosecutor shouted at her constantly: 'Why did you [sleep] with him!"

"Laura was terrified, intimidated, embarrassed terribly and finally signed an Arabic statement she could not read," the attorney added.

The man Laura accused was also arrested, but on adultery and public drunkenness charges, not rape. He has been identified by Al Jazeera as Omar Abdullah al-Hasan, a Syrian citizen.

Hasan claimed the sex was consensual and that Laura had only gone to police after demanding money and trying to steal his watch and cellphone, according to the Guardian.

After Marian went public with her daughter's ordeal, supporters launched a #FreeLaura campaign online.

Some critics suggested boycotting the 2022 World Cup in Qatar over the case. The tournament, which in 2014 drew one million tourists to Brazil, is already likely to test Qatar's strict rules on alcohol. The country only allows foreigners to drink in a few international hotels, or in private upon obtaining a permit.

The country has also faced criticism from human rights groups for the harsh conditions in which many World Cup stadiums are being built.

Laura's arrest isn't the first of its kind in the region. In 2008, an Australian woman was jailed for eight months after reporting she was gang-raped at a hotel in the United Arab Emirates, according to the AP. Three years ago, a Norwegian woman reported being raped in Dubai only to be arrested for adultery and sentenced to 16 months in prison. She was ultimately pardoned and allowed to leave Qatar, however.

On Monday, Laura was convicted and released — but not before she paid her $845 fine.

Hasan was also convicted, according to Al Jazeera. He will receive 100 lashings for adultery and another 40 for public drunkenness and will be deported, according to the Doha-based television network.

Laura's account drew some scrutiny in the Netherlands after media reported that her traveling companion had admitted to working as a prostitute, the Guardian reported. Another "complicating factor," according to the Dutch foreign ministry, was that her mother said Laura had converted to Islam during her detention.

On Monday, however, Marian said she was simply happy her daughter was homeward bound.

"This is the news I have been waiting for for days," she told Dutch national broadcaster NOS, according to the Guardian. "I haven't slept for nights, but I'm very happy."

The sentence could easily have been much stiffer, a Qatari court official told Al Jazeera.

"Had she been a Muslim woman, she would have received at least five years in jail," he said, adding that Laura's sentence was "lenient."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/14/dutch-tourist-in-qatar-jailed-for-3-months-fined-845-after-reporting-she-was-raped/

At least the rape culture there is not as bad as at US college campuses, though.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Ancient Demon on June 21, 2016, 06:21:48 PM
She couldn't have been raped, there weren't the required four witnesses.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: 11B4V on June 21, 2016, 10:54:43 PM
Islam strikes again.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Phillip V on June 22, 2016, 12:07:16 AM
Do not holiday in the Middle East.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Martinus on June 22, 2016, 12:19:11 AM
Quote from: Ancient Demon on June 21, 2016, 06:21:48 PM
She couldn't have been raped, there weren't the required four witnesses.
:lol:
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: The Brain on June 22, 2016, 12:39:00 AM
Shows many things, one of them being don't travel to countries with insane laws. Remember that to a Qatari our laws seem completely insane, and I'm sure there are shocking stories in Qatari media about Qatari rape victims in the west NOT being charged.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Martinus on June 22, 2016, 12:45:47 AM
What bugs me is you have SJWs all up in arms about some lying crazo with a mattress and "campus rape culture" but hardly anyone on their side ever speaks about this (not to mention organising some sort of boycott or protest at a Qatari embassy - I know they can do it, seeing how they go after Israel at the slightest infraction).
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Razgovory on June 22, 2016, 01:10:28 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 22, 2016, 12:45:47 AM
What bugs me is you have SJWs all up in arms about some lying crazo with a mattress and "campus rape culture" but hardly anyone on their side ever speaks about this (not to mention organising some sort of boycott or protest at a Qatari embassy - I know they can do it, seeing how they go after Israel at the slightest infraction).

Cause it's in a different country?  And you only give a shit because it's in a Muslim country.  Otherwise it's way to Social Justice Warriory.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Martinus on June 22, 2016, 01:12:11 AM
Israel is also a different country - yet it never stopped SJWs boycotting it.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Razgovory on June 22, 2016, 01:26:01 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 22, 2016, 01:12:11 AM
Israel is also a different country - yet it never stopped SJWs boycotting it.

Nope, to stupid.  I'm full up on stupid tonight, I can't take another heaping of stupid from you.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: garbon on June 22, 2016, 01:39:01 AM
All our Languish defenders of Qatar will be so embarrassed.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: DGuller on June 22, 2016, 07:23:56 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 22, 2016, 12:39:00 AM
Shows many things, one of them being don't travel to countries with insane laws. Remember that to a Qatari our laws seem completely insane, and I'm sure there are shocking stories in Qatari media about Qatari rape victims in the west NOT being charged.
:XD:
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Valmy on June 22, 2016, 08:47:35 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 22, 2016, 12:45:47 AM
What bugs me is you have SJWs all up in arms about some lying crazo with a mattress and "campus rape culture" but hardly anyone on their side ever speaks about this (not to mention organising some sort of boycott or protest at a Qatari embassy - I know they can do it, seeing how they go after Israel at the slightest infraction).

Those people (what do you mean 'those people?') are only concerned with what goes on on college campuses.

Anyway anybody who saw the Sex in the City 2 movie knows not to go to the gulf states. They also suffered through a truly horrible movie. I feel for those people.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Malthus on June 22, 2016, 08:51:37 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 22, 2016, 08:47:35 AM
Anyway anybody who saw the Sex in the City 2 movie knows not to go to the gulf states. They also suffered through a truly horrible movie. I feel for those people.

That is one case in which further punishing the victims makes a sort of moral sense.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Monoriu on June 22, 2016, 09:05:37 AM
This sort of thing makes it difficult for me to persuade the wife to visit Dubai :weep:
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: The Brain on June 22, 2016, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 22, 2016, 09:05:37 AM
This sort of thing makes it difficult for me to persuade the wife to visit Dubai :weep:

As long as you rape each other you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 22, 2016, 12:52:24 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 22, 2016, 09:05:37 AM
This sort of thing makes it difficult for me to persuade the wife to visit Dubai :weep:
there nothing there...
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: viper37 on June 22, 2016, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 22, 2016, 09:05:37 AM
This sort of thing makes it difficult for me to persuade the wife to visit Dubai :weep:
why would you even want to visit this place?  Overpriced hotels, overprices shopping centers, barbaric customs...  I thought you hated wasting money?
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: DGuller on June 22, 2016, 04:41:38 PM
But it's so pleasantly soulless...
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Monoriu on June 22, 2016, 07:58:40 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 22, 2016, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 22, 2016, 09:05:37 AM
This sort of thing makes it difficult for me to persuade the wife to visit Dubai :weep:
why would you even want to visit this place?  Overpriced hotels, overprices shopping centers, barbaric customs...  I thought you hated wasting money?

I have never been to the Middle East.  Dubai seems to be one of the most tourist friendly places in that region, aside from Israel.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on June 23, 2016, 02:21:10 AM
It is a complete confection though  :hmm:
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Monoriu on June 23, 2016, 02:28:57 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on June 23, 2016, 02:21:10 AM
It is a complete confection though  :hmm:

I love theme parks  :blush:
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Valmy on June 23, 2016, 08:34:08 AM
Go to Tel Aviv if you really want to get into a bland modern city where you can eat some falafel or whatever.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Siege on June 26, 2016, 10:31:28 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 22, 2016, 07:58:40 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 22, 2016, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 22, 2016, 09:05:37 AM
This sort of thing makes it difficult for me to persuade the wife to visit Dubai :weep:
why would you even want to visit this place?  Overpriced hotels, overprices shopping centers, barbaric customs...  I thought you hated wasting money?

I have never been to the Middle East.  Dubai seems to be one of the most tourist friendly places in that region, aside from Israel.


Dude, do you really want to expose yourself, and your wife, to islamic hatred of infidels?
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Monoriu on June 26, 2016, 10:39:11 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2016, 08:34:08 AM
Go to Tel Aviv if you really want to get into a bland modern city where you can eat some falafel or whatever.

They don't have the tallest tower in the world.  Or that palm shaped man-made island thing. 
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Monoriu on June 26, 2016, 10:41:27 PM
Quote from: Siege on June 26, 2016, 10:31:28 PM


Dude, do you really want to expose yourself, and your wife, to islamic hatred of infidels?

I have been to Malaysia many times, and I felt fine. 
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Siege on June 26, 2016, 10:48:03 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 26, 2016, 10:41:27 PM
Quote from: Siege on June 26, 2016, 10:31:28 PM


Dude, do you really want to expose yourself, and your wife, to islamic hatred of infidels?

I have been to Malaysia many times, and I felt fine. 

Malaysia is still an Asian country.
Arabs are extremely racists, and their camouflage their racism as hatred of the infidel, but it is racial.
Their religious universalism makes them very aggresive. Think of Nazi Germany without the technological and economical power, and that't what islam is. Powerless people with dreams of world domination. Yeah, gulf states are rich, but they are still powerless.

Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Monoriu on June 26, 2016, 10:53:39 PM
Quote from: Siege on June 26, 2016, 10:48:03 PM


Malaysia is still an Asian country.
Arabs are extremely racists, and their camouflage their racism as hatred of the infidel, but it is racial.
Their religious universalism makes them very aggresive. Think of Nazi Germany without the technological and economical power, and that't what islam is. Powerless people with dreams of world domination. Yeah, gulf states are rich, but they are still powerless.

Dubai is in Asia too.  I understand that lots of westerners and non-Arabs live and visit there.  I sort of get your point about racism, but I go to a lot of places like that.  I love going to Japan.  I just ignore all the blatent anti-Chinese racial slurs in neon signs that they love to put up. 
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Josquius on June 27, 2016, 01:04:24 AM
Dubai is not a place to visit willingly. It's a place to visit if your stopover is longer than 4 hours.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Monoriu on June 27, 2016, 01:14:08 AM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh101%2FMonoriu%2Fdowntown-dubai-cityscape_zpstaxvgswr.jpg&hash=af0a876f1befa424b0a8ce58de7b79d3a01684d6) (http://s62.photobucket.com/user/Monoriu/media/downtown-dubai-cityscape_zpstaxvgswr.jpg.html)

This usually takes place in dreams only, but they have really built it.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: LaCroix on June 27, 2016, 01:19:02 AM
yeah, I've always thought dubai looks like a really neat place to visit, if only once. like vegas on steroids.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on June 27, 2016, 01:21:50 AM
Yeah, there is some force in that argument. Maybe a two-day stopover en route to Europe or Asia, half the planes stop there anyway.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Valmy on June 27, 2016, 09:57:25 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 26, 2016, 10:53:39 PM
I just ignore all the blatent anti-Chinese racial slurs in neon signs that they love to put up. 

:blink:
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: garbon on June 27, 2016, 10:39:16 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 27, 2016, 01:14:08 AM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh101%2FMonoriu%2Fdowntown-dubai-cityscape_zpstaxvgswr.jpg&hash=af0a876f1befa424b0a8ce58de7b79d3a01684d6) (http://s62.photobucket.com/user/Monoriu/media/downtown-dubai-cityscape_zpstaxvgswr.jpg.html)

This usually takes place in dreams only, but they have really built it.

Sometimes it is okay not to make the stuff of dreams into reality.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Monoriu on June 27, 2016, 10:46:28 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2016, 09:57:25 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 26, 2016, 10:53:39 PM
I just ignore all the blatent anti-Chinese racial slurs in neon signs that they love to put up. 

:blink:

Japanese love giving away free food samples.  There is a very well known old lady in the busiest tourist street in Kyoto who was known to distribute the samples to Japanese only.  Never Chinese.  I personally tested the theory just to see if the myth was true.  Sure enough, the lady skillfully looked the other way when I approached. 

I did not make any sound.  So I kept wondering how she effectively distinguished between Chinese and Japanese just by looks alone.  A lot of Japanese live in my housing estate and sometimes I can tell them apart just from their looks.  Japanese dress more formally and are generally tidier.  Also better groomed, tend to have more make-up etc. 

I lean toward that Japanese usually say some greeting words when they approach a vendor for food samples though. 
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: The Brain on June 27, 2016, 12:27:44 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 27, 2016, 10:46:28 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2016, 09:57:25 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 26, 2016, 10:53:39 PM
I just ignore all the blatent anti-Chinese racial slurs in neon signs that they love to put up. 

:blink:

Japanese love giving away free food samples.  There is a very well known old lady in the busiest tourist street in Kyoto who was known to distribute the samples to Japanese only.  Never Chinese.  I personally tested the theory just to see if the myth was true.  Sure enough, the lady skillfully looked the other way when I approached. 

I did not make any sound.  So I kept wondering how she effectively distinguished between Chinese and Japanese just by looks alone.  A lot of Japanese live in my housing estate and sometimes I can tell them apart just from their looks.  Japanese dress more formally and are generally tidier.  Also better groomed, tend to have more make-up etc. 

I lean toward that Japanese usually say some greeting words when they approach a vendor for food samples though.

Will she spot a Swede?
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: derspiess on June 27, 2016, 01:53:55 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 27, 2016, 10:46:28 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2016, 09:57:25 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 26, 2016, 10:53:39 PM
I just ignore all the blatent anti-Chinese racial slurs in neon signs that they love to put up. 

:blink:

Japanese love giving away free food samples.  There is a very well known old lady in the busiest tourist street in Kyoto who was known to distribute the samples to Japanese only.  Never Chinese.  I personally tested the theory just to see if the myth was true.  Sure enough, the lady skillfully looked the other way when I approached. 

I did not make any sound.  So I kept wondering how she effectively distinguished between Chinese and Japanese just by looks alone.  A lot of Japanese live in my housing estate and sometimes I can tell them apart just from their looks.  Japanese dress more formally and are generally tidier.  Also better groomed, tend to have more make-up etc. 

I lean toward that Japanese usually say some greeting words when they approach a vendor for food samples though. 

Life magazine told us how to tell them apart long ago:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.english.illinois.edu%2Fmaps%2Fpoets%2Fa_f%2Ffoster%2FLife-2-th.jpg&hash=a3cc7c6c4a0ba62ef258024a4450aad908f42707)

Time had their guide:

(https://envisioningtheamericandream.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/time-how-to-tell-your-friends-from-the-japs-time-1941.jpg?w=376)
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: DGuller on June 27, 2016, 02:59:34 PM
 :hmm: Seems like all you have to do is check for a menacing scowl.  If you have it, you're Japanese.  If you don't, congrats, you're Chinese.  Not sure why they needed a whole article about this.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Valmy on June 27, 2016, 03:02:08 PM
If they are bayoneting babies then they are Japanese. Easy.

Is it true that Japanese are short and hairy and more likely to wear horned rimmed glasses? Can you help me with this Mono?
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Monoriu on June 27, 2016, 08:00:35 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2016, 03:02:08 PM
If they are bayoneting babies then they are Japanese. Easy.

Is it true that Japanese are short and hairy and more likely to wear horned rimmed glasses? Can you help me with this Mono?

:P  All East Asians are short when comared with westerners.  My completely unscientific feeling is that Japanese seems to have grown a bit in recent decades.  They are about the same as Chinese in terms of height.  But somehow, their females don't seem to have catched up.  There are a lot of mini-sized Japanese pretty idols who are below 5 feet tall. 

In terms of facial features, I agree there are some subtle differences between Chinese and Japanese.  But they are not reliable indicators.  It is far better to tell from clothes, make-up, and demeanour.  Japanese are a lot more conformist, they take care not to cause trouble etc. 
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2016, 08:05:24 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2016, 03:02:08 PM
If they are bayoneting babies then they are Japanese. Easy.

:lol:  Ruh-roh.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2016, 08:23:10 PM
Doesn't hold true with Hong Kongomites, but Japanese always have better hair than mainland Chinese.  Better styled, better use of gel.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2016, 08:29:36 PM
You can definitely spot North Koreans during the holiday season at Rockefeller Center--

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcLLjuLV.jpg&hash=818fa7ceef4c556f37bea4f9b929e017da2a73c8)
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: DGuller on June 27, 2016, 10:46:05 PM
I don't think that's going to save them from the AA gun.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2016, 10:49:06 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.kinja-img.com%2Fgawker-media%2Fimage%2Fupload%2Flh90pemxwe39bjkcn0ak.gif&hash=d602e219fb07ba632294b9eb3affe35316172291)
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Monoriu on June 27, 2016, 10:54:12 PM
I haven't been to North Korea either. 
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: The Larch on June 28, 2016, 03:42:01 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2016, 08:29:36 PM
You can definitely spot North Koreans during the holiday season at Rockefeller Center--

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcLLjuLV.jpg&hash=818fa7ceef4c556f37bea4f9b929e017da2a73c8)

Photoshop, right? :unsure:

I mean, medals on the sleeves and trousers are a bit overkill.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on June 28, 2016, 04:03:56 AM
Can't quite see from the picture, but I'm fairly sure that some of those medals are paradox EUIV achievements.
Title: Re: Dutch tourist in Qatar jailed for 3 months, fined after reporting she was raped
Post by: Duque de Bragança on June 28, 2016, 04:50:26 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 27, 2016, 10:54:12 PM
I haven't been to North Korea either.

:thumbsdown:

For shame, Mono, for shame!