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Title: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: Jacob on June 17, 2016, 12:13:38 PM
This may be of interest to some of our military hardware nerds here:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpics.livejournal.com%2Figor113%2Fpic%2F007eez56%2Fs1024x768&hash=1fb4e2204d5ea456d4869642f6458e9ac5335e3e)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpics.livejournal.com%2Figor113%2Fpic%2F007ke80p&hash=826a1c6cb8f4c764d86c7e5d836442f00b911813)

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Way more pictures here  (http://igor113.livejournal.com/51213.html)and here (http://igor113.livejournal.com/52174.html).
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: Malthus on June 17, 2016, 12:59:19 PM
Damn, that thing is weird looking. Like an abandoned Soviet version of a Star Trek vehicle.  :lol:
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: grumbler on June 17, 2016, 01:32:49 PM
Ah, the Caspian Sea Monster.  I remember him well.

I'm assuming that this is the second, never-finished model.  The first crashed (these things were very sensitive to sea state and wind) and this looks in too good a shape to have been raised.  Google translate makes the blog you linked to a hash that i cannot penetrate.  Cool stuff, though.

here is a video of the first one in "flight." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Nu94khHoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Nu94khHoo)

Edit:  This is one of the handful of follow-on WIGE aircraft completed, not the KM itself (or the incomplete one).  It is apparently kept as a museum exhibit at Kaspiysk.  That's even cooler than this being a remnant.
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: mongers on June 17, 2016, 02:52:41 PM
Ekranoplans are thoroughly cool machines, well at least in my book they are.


Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: Malthus on June 17, 2016, 02:54:11 PM
Are those things on its back missile tubes?
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 17, 2016, 03:03:46 PM
Looks very Moebius (sp?).
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: mongers on June 17, 2016, 03:07:23 PM
Quote from: Malthus on June 17, 2016, 02:54:11 PM
Are those things on its back missile tubes?

Yep, there's film on youtube of a launch irrc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lun-class_ekranoplan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lun-class_ekranoplan)
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: MadImmortalMan on June 17, 2016, 04:19:26 PM
Is there any advantage to this over, say a normal hydrofoil? It doesn't seem like it was intended to fly it over land anyway.
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: grumbler on June 17, 2016, 04:34:59 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 17, 2016, 04:19:26 PM
Is there any advantage to this over, say a normal hydrofoil? It doesn't seem like it was intended to fly it over land anyway.

It is much faster than a hydrofoil (c. 300 knots, IIRC) and  is much larger (something like 400 tons).  It was one of those concepts that worked supremely well up  until the moment it encountered reality.  It really only worked under near-ideal sea and wind conditions, which were rare.
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: Hamilcar on June 17, 2016, 07:37:37 PM
It looks like something an 8 year old drew.
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 17, 2016, 07:47:29 PM
Oooh, another mid-century vintage find on Etsy.  Favorited!
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on June 17, 2016, 11:42:14 PM
Экранопла́н  :wub:


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Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: Berkut on June 18, 2016, 09:39:36 AM
The thing I don't understand about things like this is that it seems obvious to me that this is simply not workable. I am not any kind of engineer, but it doesn't take a degree to imagine that something cruising along at 400MPH several feet above the surface of the water is going to have serious problems with wind and any kind of wave action.
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: Ed Anger on June 18, 2016, 09:44:18 AM
I'm a Frogfoot and Fencer fan myself.
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: The Brain on June 18, 2016, 09:45:55 AM
I like Fagot.
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 18, 2016, 09:51:18 AM
5 O'Clock Forger. 
Title: Re: Epic Soviet Era Aircraft [pictures]
Post by: PDH on June 18, 2016, 11:04:41 AM
The SU-24 1/2 Flatulent has some problems too.