He was the greatest... :cry:
RIP
He's not one whose politics I agreed with, but who lead an admirable life. God Bless, Mohammed Ali, and Rest In Peace.
Very admirable man. A man who wrestled with heavy moral issues his entire life.
2016 fucking sucks.
RIP Ali :(
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 04, 2016, 01:09:26 AM
A man who wrestled with heavy moral issues his entire life.
:bleeding:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 04, 2016, 01:09:26 AM
Very admirable man. A man who wrestled with heavy moral issues his entire life.
He was a boxer, not a wrestler. Otherwise I agree.
RIP :(
Quote from: Barrister on June 04, 2016, 01:06:05 AM
He's not one whose politics I agreed with, but who lead an admirable life. God Bless, Mohammed Ali, and Rest In Peace.
Can you elaborate? I have never heard of this side of his life. I thought he was a very good boxer (and later in life seemed to have suffered because of likely brain damage from that).
Edit: So it as not just "seemed" but he had Parkinson's which, most likely, was caused or aggravated by brain damage from boxing.
:cry:
Obviously huge news here.
RIP, Mister Clay.
:(
He not only fought in the ring, but for his beliefs. A true hero.
Just rewatched "When we were Kings" in his memory. Amazing doc, I think it captures him magnificently.
RIP.
Going to watch When We Were Kings tonight.
Quote from: Martinus on June 04, 2016, 05:30:01 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 04, 2016, 01:06:05 AM
He's not one whose politics I agreed with, but who lead an admirable life. God Bless, Mohammed Ali, and Rest In Peace.
Can you elaborate? I have never heard of this side of his life.
He was drafted during the Vietnam War, but refused to serve. He had applied for, but was refused classification as a conscientious objector, and was sent to prison and stripped of his world championship title.
:yes:
"No Vietcong ever called me nigga." :)
He was also part of the Nation before transitioning to more mainstream Islam. Though looking it up, looks like he eventually transitioned to being Sufi.
The news was talking a lot about how he is quite universally loved in the uk but less so in the us :unsure:
I think historically maybe. In the 70s he was hugely controversial in the US. In the UK he did great Parkinson appearances and argued with Clough :lol:
Ok. Kudos on the conscientous objector thing but I feel like the rest of it is "lost in translation" so to speak. What's so admirable about converting to Islam? :huh:
Quote from: Martinus on June 04, 2016, 12:45:05 PM
Ok. Kudos on the conscientous objector thing but I feel like the rest of it is "lost in translation" so to speak. What's so admirable about converting to Islam? :huh:
'I am America. I am the part you won't recognize. But get used to me. Black, confident, cocky; my name, not yours; my religion, not yours; my goals, my own; get used to me.'
RIP :(
I was on a really small regional flight to Chicago (I think O'Hare) on a plane that probably sat 20 passengers. Everyone boarded, and at the last minute Mohammed Ali boarded with his assistant. He wasn't in the boarding area--the airline must have been working with him to minimize the hassle.
Everyone on the plane was given an autographed copy of a picture with Ali--I'm assuming to keep everyone from asking for autographs. And when we landed, it wasn't hard to see why. He was absolutely mobbed at the airport. With his condition, any travel in public had to be a challenge--I don't know how he ever made it through the airport.
It really is a credit to him that he kept making the appearances he did even with Parkinson's. I guess he didn't retire his championship fighting spirit when he gave up boxing.
Breitbart wrote a RIP article for him. I'm surprised you didn't get your opinion from there, Martinus.
Quote from: Martinus on June 04, 2016, 12:45:05 PM
Ok. Kudos on the conscientous objector thing but I feel like the rest of it is "lost in translation" so to speak. What's so admirable about converting to Islam? :huh:
Who cares what you think? You were created by Mr. Yakub.
Ali v. Williams love watching that fight. The pinnacle of his skill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rI6pZDJOVc
I don't understand the fascination about him.
Quote from: 11B4V on June 04, 2016, 06:02:17 PM
Ali v. Williams love watching that fight. The pinnacle of his skill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rI6pZDJOVc
Beautiful.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 04, 2016, 07:01:19 PM
I don't understand the fascination about him.
He was incredibly quick for a heavyweight boxer, both his hands and feet.
He was involved in some of the most dramatic fights in boxing history.
He was a natural talker and entertainer, a pleasure to listen to.
He was involved in some of the most important political and social issues in US post war history.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 04, 2016, 07:01:19 PM
I don't understand the fascination about him.
It's allright, we don't understand the fascination about Mao either.
One of the guys I admire most in the world is Jack Harbaugh, father of Jim and John (both highly successful American football coaches, as was Jack).
Muhammad Ali was a hero of Jack's:
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/muhammad-ali-molded-harbaughs-165100411.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/video/muhammad-ali-molded-harbaughs-165100411.html)
Jack told that story many times:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v-akeLNyIo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v-akeLNyIo)
Best line comes from Jim Harbaugh:
QuoteThe cool thing is, this is the kind of story we've been hearing since we were kids. We didn't get Little Red Riding Hood or The Little Engine That Could stories.
Uh oh. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/piers-morgan-muhammad-ali-donald-trump-twitter_uk_57541bc1e4b040e3e819a133
Who actually cares about Piers Morgan? Does Piers Morgan even care?
Quote from: Martinus on June 05, 2016, 03:04:33 PM
Uh oh. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/piers-morgan-muhammad-ali-donald-trump-twitter_uk_57541bc1e4b040e3e819a133 (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/piers-morgan-muhammad-ali-donald-trump-twitter_uk_57541bc1e4b040e3e819a133)
It's okay, Trump was working for his dad's company in those days, which had a policy of not renting to blacks. Bring up things form 1970 is probably not the best way to demonstrate Trump's racial tolerance.
well, it's technically true. though, it ignores the historical context that justified his comments, as he was a well-known figure promoting black confidence when it was needed
In the end the cockroaches won. :(
RIP Muhammed
Fucking cockaroaches. :(
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