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Title: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Drakken on June 04, 2016, 12:07:06 AM
He was the greatest...  :cry:
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: dps on June 04, 2016, 12:12:13 AM
RIP
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Post by: Barrister on June 04, 2016, 01:06:05 AM
He's not one whose politics I agreed with, but who lead an admirable life.  God Bless, Mohammed Ali, and Rest In Peace.
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Post by: Admiral Yi on June 04, 2016, 01:09:26 AM
Very admirable man.  A man who wrestled with heavy moral issues his entire life.
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Post by: katmai on June 04, 2016, 01:44:30 AM
2016 fucking sucks.
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Post by: The Brain on June 04, 2016, 02:39:36 AM
RIP Ali :(
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: The Brain on June 04, 2016, 02:39:54 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 04, 2016, 01:09:26 AM
A man who wrestled with heavy moral issues his entire life.

:bleeding:
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Post by: jimmy olsen on June 04, 2016, 02:42:49 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 04, 2016, 01:09:26 AM
Very admirable man.  A man who wrestled with heavy moral issues his entire life.

He was a boxer, not a wrestler. Otherwise I agree.

RIP :(
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Martinus on June 04, 2016, 05:30:01 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 04, 2016, 01:06:05 AM
He's not one whose politics I agreed with, but who lead an admirable life.  God Bless, Mohammed Ali, and Rest In Peace.

Can you elaborate? I have never heard of this side of his life. I thought he was a very good boxer (and later in life seemed to have suffered because of likely brain damage from that).

Edit: So it as not just "seemed" but he had Parkinson's which, most likely, was caused or aggravated by brain damage from boxing.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Caliga on June 04, 2016, 05:44:04 AM
 :cry:

Obviously huge news here.
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Post by: Grey Fox on June 04, 2016, 07:18:24 AM
RIP, Mister Clay.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Josephus on June 04, 2016, 07:22:54 AM
 :(

He not only fought in the ring, but for his beliefs. A true hero.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: The Brain on June 04, 2016, 07:39:46 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 04, 2016, 07:18:24 AM
RIP, Mister Clay.

Classy.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: celedhring on June 04, 2016, 07:42:20 AM
Just rewatched "When we were Kings" in his memory. Amazing doc, I think it captures him magnificently.
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Post by: Sheilbh on June 04, 2016, 07:43:21 AM
RIP.

Going to watch When We Were Kings tonight.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: dps on June 04, 2016, 08:54:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 04, 2016, 05:30:01 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 04, 2016, 01:06:05 AM
He's not one whose politics I agreed with, but who lead an admirable life.  God Bless, Mohammed Ali, and Rest In Peace.

Can you elaborate? I have never heard of this side of his life.

He was drafted during the Vietnam War, but refused to serve.  He had applied for, but was refused classification as a conscientious objector, and was sent to prison and stripped of his world championship title.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Caliga on June 04, 2016, 09:02:40 AM
:yes:

"No Vietcong ever called me nigga." :)
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: garbon on June 04, 2016, 09:07:08 AM
He was also part of the Nation before transitioning to more mainstream Islam. Though looking it up, looks like he eventually transitioned to being Sufi.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Josquius on June 04, 2016, 10:03:42 AM
The news was talking a lot about how he is quite universally loved in the uk but less so in the us :unsure:
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Post by: Sheilbh on June 04, 2016, 10:09:56 AM
I think historically maybe. In the 70s he was hugely controversial in the US. In the UK he did great Parkinson appearances and argued with Clough :lol:
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Martinus on June 04, 2016, 12:45:05 PM
Ok. Kudos on the conscientous objector thing but I feel like the rest of it is "lost in translation" so to speak. What's so admirable about converting to Islam?  :huh:
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Sheilbh on June 04, 2016, 12:51:18 PM
Quote from: Martinus on June 04, 2016, 12:45:05 PM
Ok. Kudos on the conscientous objector thing but I feel like the rest of it is "lost in translation" so to speak. What's so admirable about converting to Islam?  :huh:
'I am America. I am the part you won't recognize. But get used to me. Black, confident, cocky; my name, not yours; my religion, not yours; my goals, my own; get used to me.'
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: lustindarkness on June 04, 2016, 02:58:41 PM
RIP :(
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Post by: alfred russel on June 04, 2016, 03:06:00 PM
I was on a really small regional flight to Chicago (I think O'Hare) on a plane that probably sat 20 passengers. Everyone boarded, and at the last minute Mohammed Ali boarded with his assistant. He wasn't in the boarding area--the airline must have been working with him to minimize the hassle.

Everyone on the plane was given an autographed copy of a picture with Ali--I'm assuming to keep everyone from asking for autographs. And when we landed, it wasn't hard to see why. He was absolutely mobbed at the airport. With his condition, any travel in public had to be a challenge--I don't know how he ever made it through the airport.

It really is a credit to him that he kept making the appearances he did even with Parkinson's. I guess he didn't retire his championship fighting spirit when he gave up boxing.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Jaron on June 04, 2016, 03:50:05 PM
Breitbart wrote a RIP article for him. I'm surprised you didn't get your opinion from there, Martinus.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2016, 04:33:42 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 04, 2016, 02:39:54 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 04, 2016, 01:09:26 AM
A man who wrestled with heavy moral issues his entire life.

:bleeding:

I LOL'd.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: The Brain on June 04, 2016, 04:52:04 PM
Quote from: Martinus on June 04, 2016, 12:45:05 PM
Ok. Kudos on the conscientous objector thing but I feel like the rest of it is "lost in translation" so to speak. What's so admirable about converting to Islam?  :huh:

Who cares what you think? You were created by Mr. Yakub.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: 11B4V on June 04, 2016, 06:02:17 PM
Ali v. Williams love watching that fight. The pinnacle of his skill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rI6pZDJOVc
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Monoriu on June 04, 2016, 07:01:19 PM
I don't understand the fascination about him. 
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Post by: lustindarkness on June 04, 2016, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 04, 2016, 06:02:17 PM
Ali v. Williams love watching that fight. The pinnacle of his skill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rI6pZDJOVc

Beautiful.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 04, 2016, 07:25:52 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 04, 2016, 07:01:19 PM
I don't understand the fascination about him.

He was incredibly quick for a heavyweight boxer, both his hands and feet.
He was involved in some of the most dramatic fights in boxing history.
He was a natural talker and entertainer, a pleasure to listen to.
He was involved in some of the most important political and social issues in US post war history.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Drakken on June 04, 2016, 07:36:29 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 04, 2016, 07:01:19 PM
I don't understand the fascination about him.

It's allright, we don't understand the fascination about Mao either.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: grumbler on June 04, 2016, 08:05:51 PM
One of the guys I admire most in the world is Jack Harbaugh, father of Jim and John (both highly successful American football coaches, as was Jack).

Muhammad Ali was a hero of Jack's:

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/muhammad-ali-molded-harbaughs-165100411.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/video/muhammad-ali-molded-harbaughs-165100411.html)

Jack told that story many times:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v-akeLNyIo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v-akeLNyIo)

Best line comes from Jim Harbaugh:
QuoteThe cool thing is, this is the kind of story we've been hearing since we were kids. We didn't get Little Red Riding Hood or The Little Engine That Could stories.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Martinus on June 05, 2016, 03:04:33 PM
Uh oh. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/piers-morgan-muhammad-ali-donald-trump-twitter_uk_57541bc1e4b040e3e819a133
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: garbon on June 05, 2016, 03:17:43 PM
Who actually cares about Piers Morgan? Does Piers Morgan even care?
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Razgovory on June 05, 2016, 03:47:12 PM
Quote from: Martinus on June 05, 2016, 03:04:33 PM
Uh oh. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/piers-morgan-muhammad-ali-donald-trump-twitter_uk_57541bc1e4b040e3e819a133 (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/piers-morgan-muhammad-ali-donald-trump-twitter_uk_57541bc1e4b040e3e819a133)

It's okay, Trump was working for his dad's company in those days, which had a policy of not renting to blacks.  Bring up things form 1970 is probably not the best way to demonstrate Trump's racial tolerance.
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: LaCroix on June 06, 2016, 01:21:54 AM
well, it's technically true. though, it ignores the historical context that justified his comments, as he was a well-known figure promoting black confidence when it was needed
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Savonarola on June 06, 2016, 12:50:53 PM
In the end the cockroaches won.   :(

RIP Muhammed
Title: Re: Muhammed Ali is dead
Post by: Caliga on June 06, 2016, 02:31:45 PM
Fucking cockaroaches. :(

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