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Title: Egyptian air flight goes down. Terror or accident?
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 19, 2016, 06:38:05 AM
Probably an attack, but not impossible it was an accident.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/18/middleeast/egyptair-flight-disappears/index.html
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Post by: Eddie Teach on May 19, 2016, 09:44:32 AM
Terror or Accident?

Yes.
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Post by: Legbiter on May 19, 2016, 09:47:44 AM
Maybe a bomb left in the luggage compartment by an aloha snackbar airport staff member like with the Russian airliner recently?
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Post by: Archy on May 19, 2016, 09:51:26 AM
Perhaps someone who didn't like tampons or washing powder. Seems a big shot of Proctor &  Gamble was aboard. The anti washing powder bomber  :ph34r:
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Post by: The Brain on May 19, 2016, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 19, 2016, 06:38:05 AM
Probably an attack, but not impossible it was an accident.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/18/middleeast/egyptair-flight-disappears/index.html

Wasn't there a movie, The Accidental Terrorist?
Title: Re: Egyptian air flight goes down. Terror or accident?
Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on May 19, 2016, 10:29:00 AM
Terror?  No, there is no way it was scared out of the sky.

Terrorism?  Possibly, but it seems to subtle for that.

Accident?  It's fucking Egypt.  That's always a danger.

How about pilot suicide?
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Post by: Eddie Teach on May 19, 2016, 10:35:32 AM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on May 19, 2016, 10:29:00 AM
How about pilot suicide?

Terrorism without agenda.
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Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on May 19, 2016, 10:51:59 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 19, 2016, 10:35:32 AM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on May 19, 2016, 10:29:00 AM
How about pilot suicide?

Terrorism without agenda.

That's a contradiction.  Terrorism requires an agenda.
Title: Re: Egyptian air flight goes down. Terror or accident?
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 19, 2016, 12:40:13 PM
Well the pilot being dead is the agenda,and he's using terrorist means to get there.
Title: Re: Egyptian air flight goes down. Terror or accident?
Post by: Malthus on May 19, 2016, 01:28:55 PM
Pilot suicide has happened before on EgyptAir:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990

Too early to say now, of course.
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Post by: mongers on May 19, 2016, 05:04:51 PM
Not to trivialise this tragedy, but from the bit of coverage I saw, I'm sick of the wall of talking heads giving instant opinions on what happened.

Guy's we're not going to know what happened for at least a few days. By all means report it as the main news, outline the few known facts, report from the airport etc, but then more swiftly on to what's happening in the world, hint a plane going down, doesn't cause the world to stop. 

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Post by: Admiral Yi on May 19, 2016, 05:10:08 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 19, 2016, 05:04:51 PM
Not to trivialise this tragedy, but from the bit of coverage I saw, I'm sick of the wall of talking heads giving instant opinions on what happened.

Guy's we're not going to know what happened for at least a few days. By all means report it as the main news, outline the few known facts, report from the airport etc, but then more swiftly on to what's happening in the world, hint a plane going down, doesn't cause the world to stop.

Stop watching 24 hour news channels.
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Post by: Grinning_Colossus on May 19, 2016, 05:27:04 PM
Could it have been a black hole
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Post by: Capetan Mihali on May 19, 2016, 06:20:28 PM
I don't really see pilot suicide as terrorism as much as suicide/murder, which is pretty common occurrence -- "I'm killing myself and taking somebody else with" -- especially over a perceived grievance.  Husband/wife being by far the most common, but sometimes on a larger scale, like Columbine or Sandy Hook.  On the other hand, Marc Lépine or the Santa Cruz guy were probably terrorists.
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Post by: Martinus on May 20, 2016, 12:27:06 AM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on May 19, 2016, 10:29:00 AMAccident?  It's fucking Egypt.  That's always a danger.

The plane was flying from CdG. Presumably they do some technical checks.
Title: Re: Egyptian air flight goes down. Terror or accident?
Post by: Martinus on May 20, 2016, 12:27:59 AM
Quote from: Malthus on May 19, 2016, 01:28:55 PM
Pilot suicide has happened before on EgyptAir:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990

Too early to say now, of course.

That's 17 years ago. Hardly a proof of a pattern.
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Post by: Martinus on May 20, 2016, 12:28:21 AM
My bet is on a Muslim Brotherhood (or similar) pilot.
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Post by: Archy on May 20, 2016, 12:39:09 AM
I'm sorry for the Egyptian tourist industry  :(
Yet another hard blow to it.