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Title: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: garbon on April 15, 2016, 06:55:50 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-executive-order-competition-093636744.html

QuoteOn Friday, President Barack Obama announced he would sign an Executive Order directing every relevant agency of the Federal government to take steps in identifying bottlenecks to competition and to create new ways to increase competition in the economy. The Executive Order puts agencies on a fast-track path to, within 60 days, identify the steps they'll take. 

"Competition is good for consumers," Obama told Yahoo Finance in an interview at the White House on Thursday. "And ultimately it's good for business. That's the way the free market works. The more competition we have, the more products, services, innovation takes place."

As one of the first actions in this new, government-wide push, the Commerce Department is filing with the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to call on it to increase competition in the set-top box market.

Cable and satellite TV boxes sit on televisions in hundreds of millions of American homes, showing up on every month's bill as "converter rental." According to analysis by the White House, the cost cable set-top boxes — on average $231 to rent per year — has risen 185% while the cost of computers, televisions and mobile phones has dropped by 90%.

"It's been tied to the provider, and you rent it and consumers spend billions of dollars on this every single year,"  Obama said. "There hasn't been much innovation"

The effort to open up the set-top box market is just part of a broader effort for the administration.

"The idea is that whether we're talking about financial services, whether we're talking about products like the box on your cable TV — across the board if we have more players who can potentially participate, fewer barriers to entry, the rules aren't rigged, then you get more people trying to get your business and you get better products at cheaper prices," he said.

The Council of Economic Advisors (CEA) released a report on Friday that documented evidence that competition has been reduced in the economy. The report pointed to a decades-long decline in new business formation and increases in industry-specific measures of concentration. The report pointed to efficiencies of scale, increases in merger and acquisition activity, firms' crowding out potential competitors, and regulatory barriers to entry.

"I think the general theme is that American business is the cornerstone of our economy," Obama said. "Our private sector thrives and innovation is the hallmark of the United States. That's our big comparative advantage with other countries. But it starts to become less effective, and reduces both what consumers get and the kind of innovation we generate if we get closed systems or if people are gaming the system."

The CEA noted increasing industry concentration, outsized returns to a few firms, and lower rates of firm entry and labor mobility. The table below shows that in most industries from 1997 and 2012, the top 50 largest firms in each have seen their share of the pie grow.

Several agencies are already using their authority to advance competition. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) of the Department of Transportation (DOT) has sought to provide competitive airline carriers with greater access to takeoff and landing slots at capacity-constrained "slot-controlled" airports. The FCC, in its most recent spectrum auction design, established a market-based spectrum reserve designed to ensure against excessive concentration in holdings of low-band spectrum.

Still, the CEA and Obama argue that consumers and workers would benefit from additional policy actions by the government to promote competition.

Obama said this executive action focusing on consumer issues is key for leveling the playing field.

"I think that Congress has been stuck, partly for ideological reasons, in taking some common sense steps that would improve the economy and help working families. But I will tell you that consumer actions like this, or the actions that we took with respect to financial advisors making sure that they have an obligation to the people they're advising to actually do what's best for their clients as opposed to the services that they may be pedaling — you know, rules like that — they seem small bore initially 'cause they don't get a lot of attention, but they can add up to billion or dollars out of the pockets of consumers," Obama said.

The President said that while the economy has improved since he took office, not all of this is translating as much as it should for workers.

"[Wages and incomes] haven't gone up as quickly as people had been accustomed to in previous generations," he said. "But the fact of the matter is it is indisputable that the economy is much better now than it was when I came into office. We're continuing to make progress. And my hope is that during this debate we focus very practically on what are the additional steps we can take to make a difference."
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2016, 07:10:05 AM
Still doesn't mean shit when it comes to wage stagnation.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: derspiess on April 15, 2016, 08:56:07 AM
I like the idea but don't have much faith that they'll come up with much.  But if they can somehow come up with a way to lower my cable bill I'm on board.  I mean, 45th time is a charm, right?
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: MadImmortalMan on April 15, 2016, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 15, 2016, 08:56:07 AM
I like the idea but don't have much faith that they'll come up with much.  But if they can somehow come up with a way to lower my cable bill I'm on board.  I mean, 45th time is a charm, right?

I liked John McCain's idea of making channel subscriptions a la carte. Only pay for the ones you want.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on April 15, 2016, 10:57:30 PM
Maybe this time they'll try drone strikes against corporate executives.
That'll incentive change.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: Martinus on April 16, 2016, 01:01:47 AM
Am I the only one who finds it funny that the most capitalist country on Earth is using executive orders to "increase competition"? That's very much 5-year-plan era Soviet style.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: The Brain on April 16, 2016, 02:31:41 AM
People still have cable TV? What's wrong with the internet?
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: Norgy on April 16, 2016, 03:16:31 AM
Quote from: The Brain on April 16, 2016, 02:31:41 AM
People still have cable TV? What's wrong with the internet?

Have Sweden broken up the cable/internet monopoly? If I want internet, I also need either a landline or cable TV.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 16, 2016, 03:26:00 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 15, 2016, 09:56:34 PM
I liked John McCain's idea of making channel subscriptions a la carte. Only pay for the ones you want.

People would not be happy with the prices they would end up being offered.  1 channel out of the 300 you get would not cost 1/300 of your current cable bill.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: The Brain on April 16, 2016, 04:30:04 AM
Quote from: Norgy on April 16, 2016, 03:16:31 AM
Quote from: The Brain on April 16, 2016, 02:31:41 AM
People still have cable TV? What's wrong with the internet?

Have Sweden broken up the cable/internet monopoly? If I want internet, I also need either a landline or cable TV.

I don't follow.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: celedhring on April 16, 2016, 04:34:06 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 16, 2016, 03:26:00 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 15, 2016, 09:56:34 PM
I liked John McCain's idea of making channel subscriptions a la carte. Only pay for the ones you want.

People would not be happy with the prices they would end up being offered.  1 channel out of the 300 you get would not cost 1/300 of your current cable bill.

Which is fine, Syfy or Cartoon network have more value for most customers than say, the Weather Channel.

It already works that way internally; cable channels get paid off the user's cable bill depending on their perceived commercial value. Some channels get dollars, some get pennies.

Unbundling would mostly kill the filler channels nobody gives a damn about.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: Martinus on April 16, 2016, 04:59:03 AM
Norgy is saying that in many countries if you want to get unlimited broadband, that it is provided mainly by cable companies so you end up having both. I know I have cable which I almost never watch for the same reason.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 16, 2016, 05:32:56 AM
Here you can get internet from a cable company without also purchasing cable.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: Duque de Bragança on April 16, 2016, 05:44:50 AM
It's possible here too, but you end up paying the same price when you get telephone, cable TV and internet by the same Internet provider as with only internet, so most people get "triple play" as they call it.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: celedhring on April 16, 2016, 05:51:30 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 16, 2016, 05:32:56 AM
Here you can get internet from a cable company without also purchasing cable.

Same here. Our cable providers are pushing their TV services more these days, but they are late to the party. In Spain, the Premium TV market is cornered by satellite providers and some DTTV channels, and has been like that for years/decades.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 16, 2016, 06:03:24 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 16, 2016, 05:44:50 AM
It's possible here too, but you end up paying the same price when you get telephone, cable TV and internet by the same Internet provider as with only internet, so most people get "triple play" as they call it.

Ah. We cut our bill in 1/3 when we ditched the cable(telephone already separate).
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: Siege on April 16, 2016, 10:54:36 PM
I only got internet. Dropped cable and landlines years ago. Cable business model is so primitive.

Anyway, about Zerobama, i think he still doesn't understand free market capitalism. You want more competition? Get your hands out of the dam economy. All his regulations are distorting the market and choosing winners regardless of economic performance.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: viper37 on April 17, 2016, 12:27:02 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 16, 2016, 03:26:00 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 15, 2016, 09:56:34 PM
I liked John McCain's idea of making channel subscriptions a la carte. Only pay for the ones you want.

People would not be happy with the prices they would end up being offered.  1 channel out of the 300 you get would not cost 1/300 of your current cable bill.
We sort of have this.  It's about 1$/channel, on top of the basics that costs 30-40$ depending on the provider.
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: viper37 on April 17, 2016, 12:34:28 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 16, 2016, 10:54:36 PM
I only got internet. Dropped cable and landlines years ago. Cable business model is so primitive.

Anyway, about Zerobama, i think he still doesn't understand free market capitalism. You want more competition? Get your hands out of the dam economy. All his regulations are distorting the market and choosing winners regardless of economic performance.
and you think that without regulations, any kind of regulations in the cable market, existing players would not achieve a form of oligopoly, but rather, we'd see dozens of independant providers popping up out of nowhere?
Title: Re: Obama to sign executive order to ignite corporate competition
Post by: Razgovory on April 17, 2016, 03:42:12 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 16, 2016, 10:54:36 PM
I only got internet. Dropped cable and landlines years ago. Cable business model is so primitive.

Anyway, about Zerobama, i think he still doesn't understand free market capitalism. You want more competition? Get your hands out of the dam economy. All his regulations are distorting the market and choosing winners regardless of economic performance.

What times and places do you think free market capitalism occurred?