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Title: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Martinus on March 23, 2016, 03:56:11 PM
QuoteNUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men's reps because 'they don't face oppression'

The National Union of Students' LGBT Campaign has passed a motion calling for the abolition of representatives for gay men – because they "don't face oppression" in the LGBT community.

The NUS LGBT+ Campaign discussed the issue at its annual conference, which took place in Sheffield this week.

At the event, delegates passed a motion that blames "cis gay men" for "misogyny, transphobia, racism and biphobia".

It says: "Misogyny, transphobia, racism and biphobia are often present in LGBT+ societies. This is unfortunately more likely to occur when the society is dominated by white cis gay men."

The motion continues to call on LGBT societies at universities – many of whom have dedicated reps for lesbians, trans people, bi people and gay men – to abolish the role for gay men.

It continues: "The reps system exists to ensure that societies committees can always have a reserved place for groups which disproportionately face oppression within the LGBT+ community.

"Gay men do not face oppression as gay men within the LGBT+ community and do not need a reserved place on society committees."

It goes on to "encourage LGBT+ Societies that have a gay men's rep to drop the position".

The motion was passed – despite other resolutions at the same conference highlighting that men who have sex with men are disproportionately at risk of HIV, and disproportionately at risk of violence.

The NUS has recently been drawn into a row with gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell, who helped organise a rally outside NUS HQ last week to protest their 'No Platform' policy. The NUS denies no-platforming Mr Tatchell.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/03/22/nus-tells-lgbt-societies-to-abolish-gay-mens-reps-because-they-dont-face-oppression/

:lol:
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on March 23, 2016, 04:15:13 PM
Shut up, you white cis-hom male shitlord! Laughing at the oppressed is a form of violence.
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: The Brain on March 23, 2016, 04:23:28 PM
They may be hated in the LGBT community (the LGBT community seems to be fairly shrill and retarded in general), but oppressed?
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 23, 2016, 04:25:23 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 23, 2016, 04:23:28 PM
They may be hated in the LGBT community (the LGBT community seems to be fairly shrill and retarded in general), but oppressed?

Are bisexuals, lesbians and transexuals oppressed in the LGBT community? I thought that was supposed to be a safe space.
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Barrister on March 23, 2016, 04:26:54 PM
If I ever get down about being a right-winger (what with having lost both provincial and federal elections, and with Trump hijacking the Republicans) I just have to look at what the loony left is doing and I feel much better. :)
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: The Brain on March 23, 2016, 04:27:38 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 23, 2016, 04:25:23 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 23, 2016, 04:23:28 PM
They may be hated in the LGBT community (the LGBT community seems to be fairly shrill and retarded in general), but oppressed?

Are bisexuals, lesbians and transexuals oppressed in the LGBT community? I thought that was supposed to be a safe space.

Yes.
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: garbon on March 23, 2016, 04:29:54 PM
This is a ridiculous thread if there ever was one.
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Martinus on March 23, 2016, 04:36:28 PM
I have been saying for a long time we should just drop the L and the T (and possibly the B, but they can be cute), so this is just a push in the right direction we need.
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Martinus on March 23, 2016, 04:36:55 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 23, 2016, 04:26:54 PM
If I ever get down about being a right-winger (what with having lost both provincial and federal elections, and with Trump hijacking the Republicans) I just have to look at what the loony left is doing and I feel much better. :)

Hey, don't diss Trump. He made me consider conservatism. :P
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: garbon on March 23, 2016, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 23, 2016, 04:36:28 PM
I have been saying for a long time we should just drop the L and the T (and possibly the B, but they can be cute), so this is just a push in the right direction we need.

Then do we get to chuck you?
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Barrister on March 23, 2016, 05:14:51 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 23, 2016, 04:36:55 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 23, 2016, 04:26:54 PM
If I ever get down about being a right-winger (what with having lost both provincial and federal elections, and with Trump hijacking the Republicans) I just have to look at what the loony left is doing and I feel much better. :)

Hey, don't diss Trump. He made me consider conservatism. :P

What he's peddling isn't conservatism. <_<
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Martinus on March 23, 2016, 05:32:23 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 23, 2016, 05:14:51 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 23, 2016, 04:36:55 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 23, 2016, 04:26:54 PM
If I ever get down about being a right-winger (what with having lost both provincial and federal elections, and with Trump hijacking the Republicans) I just have to look at what the loony left is doing and I feel much better. :)

Hey, don't diss Trump. He made me consider conservatism. :P

What he's peddling isn't conservatism. <_<

It's baby steps, man.
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Jacob on March 23, 2016, 05:33:08 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 23, 2016, 05:14:51 PM
What he's peddling isn't conservatism. <_<

... more like bombastic ill-informed narcissism.
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Valmy on March 23, 2016, 06:29:42 PM
So this is some kind of extremist British student group? I guess I don't get the context. I mean if they banning Gays then they would be LBT+ right? I know extreme left wing British groups love purging each other. That is how you get five Trotskyite parties.
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Valmy on March 23, 2016, 06:30:17 PM
Quote from: Jacob on March 23, 2016, 05:33:08 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 23, 2016, 05:14:51 PM
What he's peddling isn't conservatism. <_<

... more like bombastic ill-informed narcissism.

Well there is a lot of that in American conservatism. The radio shock jocks took over in the 1990s.
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: LaCroix on March 23, 2016, 06:41:02 PM
story is amazing  :lmfao:
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: garbon on March 23, 2016, 06:44:41 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on March 23, 2016, 06:41:02 PM
story is amazing  :lmfao:

Is it really though? Crazy groups do crazy things.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566202/NUS-jazz-hands-clapping-anxiety-feminists
QuoteOrganisers at the National Union of Students Women's Conference made the request after some delegates reported feeling anxious during audience applause.

The NUS Women's Campaign tweeted from its official account: "Some delegates are requesting that we move to jazz hands rather than clapping, as it's triggering anxiety. Please be mindful!"

The original request was made by students from Oxford University.

Another delegate wrote online: "Can we not clap? Pretty anxious and its putting me on edge also distracting."

But clapping was not the only behaviour that caused problems for attendees at the Solihull event.

One claimed that MURMURING was "making things inaccessible", leading the NUS to issue an edict banning "chat" and "whooping".

Twitter users reacted with hilarity, with one posting: "You should just ban any outward expression of approval."

SE Students' Union women's officer Gee Linford-Grayson said: "Loud clapping and whooping can be intimidating and distracting when you're speaking on stage."

An NUS spokesperson said: "The request was made by some delegates attending the conference.

"We strive to make NUS events accessible and enjoyable for all, so each request is considered."
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: PDH on March 23, 2016, 08:18:45 PM
Quote from: Jacob on March 23, 2016, 05:33:08 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 23, 2016, 05:14:51 PM
What he's peddling isn't conservatism. <_<

... more like bombastic ill-informed narcissism.

ergo, gay.
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: LaCroix on March 23, 2016, 08:37:06 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 23, 2016, 06:44:41 PMIs it really though? Crazy groups do crazy things.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566202/NUS-jazz-hands-clapping-anxiety-feminists

:D what I like about marti's is that it involves an extremist part of a group trying to oust another subgroup
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: 11B4V on March 23, 2016, 09:08:36 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 23, 2016, 03:56:11 PM
QuoteNUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men's reps because 'they don't face oppression'

The National Union of Students' LGBT Campaign has passed a motion calling for the abolition of representatives for gay men – because they "don't face oppression" in the LGBT community.

The NUS LGBT+ Campaign discussed the issue at its annual conference, which took place in Sheffield this week.

At the event, delegates passed a motion that blames "cis gay men" for "misogyny, transphobia, racism and biphobia".

It says: "Misogyny, transphobia, racism and biphobia are often present in LGBT+ societies. This is unfortunately more likely to occur when the society is dominated by white cis gay men."

The motion continues to call on LGBT societies at universities – many of whom have dedicated reps for lesbians, trans people, bi people and gay men – to abolish the role for gay men.

It continues: "The reps system exists to ensure that societies committees can always have a reserved place for groups which disproportionately face oppression within the LGBT+ community.

"Gay men do not face oppression as gay men within the LGBT+ community and do not need a reserved place on society committees."

It goes on to "encourage LGBT+ Societies that have a gay men's rep to drop the position".

The motion was passed – despite other resolutions at the same conference highlighting that men who have sex with men are disproportionately at risk of HIV, and disproportionately at risk of violence.

The NUS has recently been drawn into a row with gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell, who helped organise a rally outside NUS HQ last week to protest their 'No Platform' policy. The NUS denies no-platforming Mr Tatchell.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/03/22/nus-tells-lgbt-societies-to-abolish-gay-mens-reps-because-they-dont-face-oppression/

:lol:

Very well then. Gay men can now shut the fuck up and quit crying.  :P
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Razgovory on March 23, 2016, 09:32:02 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on March 23, 2016, 08:37:06 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 23, 2016, 06:44:41 PMIs it really though? Crazy groups do crazy things.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566202/NUS-jazz-hands-clapping-anxiety-feminists (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566202/NUS-jazz-hands-clapping-anxiety-feminists)

:D what I like about marti's is that it involves an extremist part of a group trying to oust another subgroup

I just like how selfish he is.
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: garbon on March 24, 2016, 03:41:37 AM
As support for chucking Marti out of the G, I'd note that those of us who fuck with men and are fucked by men have little common cause with those who just pay to play (or not play) twinkle toes.
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Jaron on March 24, 2016, 04:07:15 AM
The gays are divided...

Now is the time for conservatives to strike!
Title: Re: NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘not oppressed'
Post by: Tamas on March 24, 2016, 04:51:06 AM
Quote from: Jacob on March 23, 2016, 05:33:08 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 23, 2016, 05:14:51 PM
What he's peddling isn't conservatism. <_<

... more like bombastic ill-informed narcissism.

And Martinus likes him? NO WAY!