So the term master is now not PC because it could be a reference to slavery? :hmm:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35726878
QuoteHarvard Law School is to change its official seal, after a protest that it had links to slavery.
The law school, part of the US university, has a seal that includes the crest of a notoriously brutal 18th Century slave owner.
Students have been holding protests and sit-ins calling for a change in this official emblem.
A Harvard Law School committee says the seal no longer represents the institution's values.
Last week, the university announced that it would stop using the term "master" in academic titles, because of connotations of slavery.
Protests on campus have attacked the use of the official seal over its link with the Royall family, whose family coat of arms are incorporated in the emblem.
This reflects that in the 18th Century the Royall family funded the first professorship of law at Harvard.
But the law school committee, in its recommendation for scrapping the seal, notes that Isaac Royall was also known for "extreme cruelty", including burning 77 slaves alive.
Harvard Law School is now accepting calls for the withdrawal of the shield, which has been in use by the school since the 1930s.
The school has written to the university's governing body, Harvard Corporation, asking for the emblem to stop being used as its official shield.
But the decision to remove the emblem was not unanimous within the 12-member committee, with two people arguing that it should be retained.
The school's dean, Martha Minow, reporting to the university's ruling body, said: "We believe that if the law school is to have an official symbol, it must more closely represent the values of the law school, which the current shield does not."
In a message to staff and students, Dean Minow said the shield had become "a source of division rather than commonality in our community" and because of the associations with slavery it should be "retired".
There have been waves of campus protests about issues of race and representation.
Earlier this year, Amherst College, in Massachusetts, accepted student demands to drop links with its informal mascot, Jeffery Amherst, an 18th Century general accused of advocating infecting native Americans with smallpox.
And there have been sit-ins at Princeton in a bid to rename a school named after Woodrow Wilson, because of claims the former US president held racist views.
There have also been controversies about statues.
In South Africa, a statue of Cecil Rhodes was removed from the University of Cape Town, with protesters attacking the statue as an emblem of colonialism and apartheid.
But a call to remove a statue of the 19th Century politician from Oriel College in Oxford University was rejected.
Harvard can no longer give out master's degrees?
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That lady's head needs to go ahead and explode.
I have a couple of Slaver of Arts.
Quote from: PDH on March 04, 2016, 08:44:02 PM
I have a couple of Slaver of Arts.
That is why I dropped out of Grad School: to protest these slavery degrees.
Seriously though there has to be more to that story. That seems like some sort of anti-Leftist joke.
Since Catalans were the last slavers in the west, you'll have to pry my MFA from my cold, dead hands.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/education-35659685
QuoteHouse masters, in charge of residential halls at the university, will become known as "faculty deans".
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Harvard has not agreed that the use of "master" represented a link to slavery, but it has accepted campaigners' calls for a name change.
It will mean changing the job titles of 24 members of staff - but will not affect other uses of "master", such as a master's level degree.
Well that is just weird. Was there something about the residence halls at Harvard that made people make slavery associations? Ah well. I guess the militancy combined with a lack of any idea about what to reform that continues to rage these days.
Quote from: Valmy on March 04, 2016, 11:28:03 PM
Well that is just weird. Was there something about the residence halls at Harvard that made people make slavery associations? Ah well. I guess the militancy combined with a lack of any idea about what to reform that continues to rage these days.
Sadly that is true. People want to protest, but they really don't know how. The very first step is to have a goal. The second is ask yourself if the protest furthers that goal. I see a lot of fuck-ups amongst leftists who are protesting.
Quote from: celedhring on March 04, 2016, 09:27:23 PM
Since Catalans were the last slavers in the west, you'll have to pry my MFA from my cold, dead hands.
You mean like involved in the trade? Cuz Brazil outlawed slavery in like 1949.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2016, 02:37:52 AM
Cuz Brazil outlawed slavery in like 1949.
1888. Last place in western hemisphere but they did beat China.
Quote from: LaCroix on March 04, 2016, 10:43:41 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/education-35659685
QuoteHouse masters, in charge of residential halls at the university, will become known as "faculty deans".
...
Harvard has not agreed that the use of "master" represented a link to slavery, but it has accepted campaigners' calls for a name change.
It will mean changing the job titles of 24 members of staff - but will not affect other uses of "master", such as a master's level degree.
Harvard. What a fucking joke.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2016, 02:37:52 AM
Quote from: celedhring on March 04, 2016, 09:27:23 PM
Since Catalans were the last slavers in the west, you'll have to pry my MFA from my cold, dead hands.
You mean like involved in the trade? Cuz Brazil outlawed slavery in like 1949.
Yeah, trade. In particular to Cuba, even after Spain itself outlawed slavery there (1886).
And people wonder why Trump gets votes.
I understand why Pinceton wanted to distance himself.
Quote from: Martinus on March 05, 2016, 05:09:55 AM
And people wonder why Trump gets votes.
Because if a naming policy at Harvard?
Quote from: garbon on March 05, 2016, 05:43:28 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 05, 2016, 05:09:55 AM
And people wonder why Trump gets votes.
Because if a naming policy at Harvard?
Because this is showing up on their Facebook and Twitter feeds as example no. 323228869 of the progressive liberal agenda gone mad. And while this is certainly a tunnel-vision-like impression that does not take into account the big picture, it is definitely a true one. Race- and gender-baiting going on in the media and the places of learning in the West right now are pushing more and more people into the open arms of extreme right.
Incidentally, the outrage over this does not come from the fact that a bunch of cretins made a petition like that. It comes from the fact that there was apparently no adult at Harvard with adequate decision power and balls to come out and say to the protester "Look, you are a moron. Those titles have nothing to do with slavery. If you are too stupid to understand this, Harvard is not a place for you. You have 24 hours to pack up and leave the campus."
:yes: "And take your father's wing with you!"
Quote from: Martinus on March 05, 2016, 05:57:08 AM
Incidentally, the outrage over this does not come from the fact that a bunch of cretins made a petition like that. It comes from the fact that there was apparently no adult at Harvard with adequate decision power and balls to come out and say to the protester "Look, you are a moron. Those titles have nothing to do with slavery. If you are too stupid to understand this, Harvard is not a place for you. You have 24 hours to pack up and leave the campus."
This I agree with. College student will always act silly and it is up to universities to keep them in line. When I was at Stanford, everyone was up in arms that Rumsfeld was coming to campus. University false flagged it and got all the student protesters to show up to a location where Rumsfeld wasn't having his meeting. :D
Quote from: Martinus on March 05, 2016, 05:49:58 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 05, 2016, 05:43:28 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 05, 2016, 05:09:55 AM
And people wonder why Trump gets votes.
Because if a naming policy at Harvard?
Because this is showing up on their Facebook and Twitter feeds as example no. 323228869 of the progressive liberal agenda gone mad. And while this is certainly a tunnel-vision-like impression that does not take into account the big picture, it is definitely a true one. Race- and gender-baiting going on in the media and the places of learning in the West right now are pushing more and more people into the open arms of extreme right.
I think you have to be an immature child if something like this pushes you into the arms of the extreme right. This basically has no impact on anyone's lives however distasteful it might be.
We need to put more effort into educating kids about the problems in the world
Then they can direct their rage against those rather than bullshit like this
https://youtu.be/aSaAytiB2bM
This has to be one of the best cases against militant political correctness.
Don't get me wrong, I am one of those PC brigade morons myself, but even I have limits.
The BBC jumped the gun a little bit. The dean's recommendation needs to be accepted by the Harvard Corporation before the crest can be officially changed. It will probably happen, though.
Typical...going after the superficial while ignoring the real problem, as Harvard graduates continue to walk among us, procreate, graduate from Harvard.
The superficial is concrete--it's easier to organize people to oppose a specific symbol than, say, HLS's role in the process of elite reproduction--and, for that reason, changing it is attainable. It lets people strike a tangible blow for social justice before they go on to work for corporate law firms.
And now it's official. Apparently the shield only dates to 1936, so it's not like they're discarding an ancient symbol from when some slaveowner donated his land in ye olde medieval times.
My old university faced something a tad similar. They used a logo for their new funding campaign that beared similarities to a Nazi momunent, so they had to change it.
Left: campaign logo, Right: nazi monument to Paris universal expo in 1937.
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Honestly, I think it's PC crap gone a little too far.
Source text in French (http://www.lapresse.ca/le-soleil/actualites/education/201603/13/01-4960220-lul-revoit-sa-pub-pour-eliminer-la-ressemblance-avec-un-monument-nazi.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B13b_la-capitale_577_section_POS2)
When they get around to removing the white strip from the Harvard Law aquafresh, then I'll be upset.