Poll
Apparently the polls in New Zealand show "the imperial relic" is in a commanding lead. :punk:
Well that is the thing. The flag is a relic. People have attachments to relics.
The Leafs suck.
Yeah, I mean even the Oilers managed to beat them last night.
That flag is revolting.
Same. Heck, I get tired of EU 4 rebels and they're much easier to deal with.
Hey look everybody, we are as active as a plant.
It's medicine against conservatives. ;)
Actually I tended to get those in response to reforms :(
:hmm:
Your dictatorial credentials are somewhat lacking, I feel.
God I loved that Elvis Impersonator.
All of them were good, but Elvis definitely had the legs. I never tired of hearing his advice, unlike the others.
I miss FMV.
I liked the chick 'cause she had a sexy voice.
My English was limited back then, but god that accent. :wub:
:swiss:
Good waste of energy and funds they spent on this nonsense. <_<
Question: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Option 1: 
votes: 28
votes: 28
Option 2: 
votes: 17
votes: 17
Title: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Zanza on February 11, 2016, 01:51:35 PM
Post by: Zanza on February 11, 2016, 01:51:35 PM
New Zealand will have a referendum on their flag in March (3rd to 24th March). Which do you prefer?
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: chipwich on February 11, 2016, 02:15:53 PM
Post by: chipwich on February 11, 2016, 02:15:53 PM
The leaf is awful but it's still better than the imperial relic.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Barrister on February 11, 2016, 02:20:54 PM
Post by: Barrister on February 11, 2016, 02:20:54 PM
Quote from: chipwich on February 11, 2016, 02:15:53 PM
The leaf is awful but it's still better than the imperial relic.
Apparently the polls in New Zealand show "the imperial relic" is in a commanding lead. :punk:
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Valmy on February 11, 2016, 02:37:49 PM
Post by: Valmy on February 11, 2016, 02:37:49 PM
New flag sucks. Keep the old one until you come up with something better.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 11, 2016, 02:39:41 PM
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 11, 2016, 02:39:41 PM
I'm OK with the fern flag except for that black patch.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: celedhring on February 11, 2016, 02:40:06 PM
Post by: celedhring on February 11, 2016, 02:40:06 PM
Old flag is boring. New flag is meh. Tough choice.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: lustindarkness on February 11, 2016, 02:59:00 PM
Post by: lustindarkness on February 11, 2016, 02:59:00 PM
Since they will not have a flag with a drunk Kiwi screwing a sheep, I will cast my vote for the new fern flag.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: celedhring on February 11, 2016, 03:08:05 PM
Post by: celedhring on February 11, 2016, 03:08:05 PM
The people of New Zealand really missed a trick by not going with this one:
(https://www.cirrusinsight.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/LaserKiwi.jpg)
(https://www.cirrusinsight.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/LaserKiwi.jpg)
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: bogh on February 11, 2016, 03:11:07 PM
Post by: bogh on February 11, 2016, 03:11:07 PM
Yeah, the new design is bland and uninspired IMO. Only thing it's got going for it is that it looks nothing like the Australian flag.
It won't be adopted. John Key (PM) wanted to adopt the Silver Fern flag (All Blacks style), but that went sour and he's sort of given up on the project. The RSA and other people have also been pretty good at building opposition to any change. At this point it's really mostly a token effort for the government to not loose face by abandoning the process.
It won't be adopted. John Key (PM) wanted to adopt the Silver Fern flag (All Blacks style), but that went sour and he's sort of given up on the project. The RSA and other people have also been pretty good at building opposition to any change. At this point it's really mostly a token effort for the government to not loose face by abandoning the process.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Valmy on February 11, 2016, 03:18:00 PM
Post by: Valmy on February 11, 2016, 03:18:00 PM
Quote from: chipwich on February 11, 2016, 02:15:53 PM
The leaf is awful but it's still better than the imperial relic.
Well that is the thing. The flag is a relic. People have attachments to relics.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: bogh on February 11, 2016, 03:36:05 PM
Post by: bogh on February 11, 2016, 03:36:05 PM
Gallipoli comes up a lot in the debate.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: The Larch on February 11, 2016, 04:07:22 PM
Post by: The Larch on February 11, 2016, 04:07:22 PM
I like the 2nd fleg better. :P
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on February 11, 2016, 04:17:26 PM
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on February 11, 2016, 04:17:26 PM
Yet another example of the politics of empty symbolism instead of substance. New Zealand needs to become a republic and *then* change the flag. :P
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: bogh on February 11, 2016, 04:23:31 PM
Post by: bogh on February 11, 2016, 04:23:31 PM
NZ isn't going republic anytime soon. The royal family draws out huge crowds every time they're here and knighthood has been restored not long ago. Since the Treaty of Waitangi (the fundamental contract between Maori and Europeans) is between Crown and Maori, it would also require a major redefinition of the country in a lot of ways.
I suspect Key is really a republican (former investment banker, rationalist business man), so flag change was his quiet rebellion. Even that is set to fail spectacularly though, so he's probably happy he never went further.
This is a classic when talking about the flag debacle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz29_bFxBZA
I suspect Key is really a republican (former investment banker, rationalist business man), so flag change was his quiet rebellion. Even that is set to fail spectacularly though, so he's probably happy he never went further.
This is a classic when talking about the flag debacle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz29_bFxBZA
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Maximus on February 11, 2016, 04:25:44 PM
Post by: Maximus on February 11, 2016, 04:25:44 PM
The leaf is way better.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Josquius on February 12, 2016, 02:22:50 AM
Post by: Josquius on February 12, 2016, 02:22:50 AM
Stick to the old one of course. Hurray for the Anglo-celtic club. Please come back canada.
Plus I like the little feeling of superiority I get whenever someone mixes up the NZ and Australia flag
Plus I like the little feeling of superiority I get whenever someone mixes up the NZ and Australia flag
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Valmy on February 12, 2016, 10:15:04 AM
Post by: Valmy on February 12, 2016, 10:15:04 AM
Quote from: Maximus on February 11, 2016, 04:25:44 PM
The leaf is way better.
The Leafs suck.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Barrister on February 12, 2016, 10:32:37 AM
Post by: Barrister on February 12, 2016, 10:32:37 AM
Quote from: Valmy on February 12, 2016, 10:15:04 AMQuote from: Maximus on February 11, 2016, 04:25:44 PM
The leaf is way better.
The Leafs suck.
Yeah, I mean even the Oilers managed to beat them last night.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: 11B4V on February 12, 2016, 08:48:49 PM
Post by: 11B4V on February 12, 2016, 08:48:49 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F40.media.tumblr.com%2Fd84164ff27e6502d07a8a42d729c01e7%2Ftumblr_mj0uhi8sME1s6kj38o1_500.jpg&hash=504c59c09d9afb2a9307d017e48902382d71d7ba)
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Razgovory on February 12, 2016, 08:55:26 PM
Post by: Razgovory on February 12, 2016, 08:55:26 PM
The leaf flag is awful.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: PDH on February 12, 2016, 08:59:04 PM
Post by: PDH on February 12, 2016, 08:59:04 PM
I like one with more attitude.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Norgy on February 12, 2016, 09:04:11 PM
Post by: Norgy on February 12, 2016, 09:04:11 PM
This is the only flag I like.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Anarchist_flag.svg)
Well, not really.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Anarchist_flag.svg)
Well, not really.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Grey Fox on February 12, 2016, 10:11:57 PM
Post by: Grey Fox on February 12, 2016, 10:11:57 PM
Flags with leafs on them are alright.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Barrister on February 12, 2016, 11:38:58 PM
Post by: Barrister on February 12, 2016, 11:38:58 PM
Quote from: Norgy on February 12, 2016, 09:04:11 PM
This is the only flag I like.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Anarchist_flag.svg)
Well, not really.
That flag is revolting.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Razgovory on February 13, 2016, 01:04:32 AM
Post by: Razgovory on February 13, 2016, 01:04:32 AM
I got so damned tired of the EU 2 rebels.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 13, 2016, 01:16:00 AM
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 13, 2016, 01:16:00 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 13, 2016, 01:04:32 AM
I got so damned tired of the EU 2 rebels.
Same. Heck, I get tired of EU 4 rebels and they're much easier to deal with.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Razgovory on February 13, 2016, 01:25:24 AM
Post by: Razgovory on February 13, 2016, 01:25:24 AM
I still haven't played much of that one.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: garbon on February 13, 2016, 02:36:49 AM
Post by: garbon on February 13, 2016, 02:36:49 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 12, 2016, 10:11:57 PM
Flags with leafs on them are alright.
Hey look everybody, we are as active as a plant.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Norgy on February 13, 2016, 04:38:42 AM
Post by: Norgy on February 13, 2016, 04:38:42 AM
Quote from: Barrister on February 12, 2016, 11:38:58 PM
That flag is revolting.
It's medicine against conservatives. ;)
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Valmy on February 14, 2016, 09:07:16 PM
Post by: Valmy on February 14, 2016, 09:07:16 PM
Quote from: Norgy on February 13, 2016, 04:38:42 AMQuote from: Barrister on February 12, 2016, 11:38:58 PM
That flag is revolting.
It's medicine against conservatives. ;)
Actually I tended to get those in response to reforms :(
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Norgy on February 15, 2016, 04:43:24 AM
Post by: Norgy on February 15, 2016, 04:43:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on February 14, 2016, 09:07:16 PMQuote from: Norgy on February 13, 2016, 04:38:42 AMQuote from: Barrister on February 12, 2016, 11:38:58 PM
That flag is revolting.
It's medicine against conservatives. ;)
This is off topic, but I tried a game of Victoria 2 some weeks ago. I'd forgotten how to play it, and man, that can be a masochistic experience.
Actually I tended to get those in response to reforms :(
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Valmy on February 15, 2016, 12:05:38 PM
Post by: Valmy on February 15, 2016, 12:05:38 PM
That game requires way too much effort to play. I feel like a need a real council of ministers giving me advice.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: garbon on February 15, 2016, 03:43:46 PM
Post by: garbon on February 15, 2016, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 15, 2016, 12:05:38 PM
That game requires way too much effort to play. I feel like a need a real council of ministers giving me advice.
:hmm:
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: grumbler on February 15, 2016, 04:46:05 PM
Post by: grumbler on February 15, 2016, 04:46:05 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 15, 2016, 12:05:38 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlTIk80uBPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlTIk80uBPg)
That game requires way too much effort to play. I feel like a need a real council of ministers giving me advice.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Norgy on February 15, 2016, 04:59:26 PM
Post by: Norgy on February 15, 2016, 04:59:26 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 15, 2016, 12:05:38 PM
I feel like a need a real council of ministers giving me advice.
Your dictatorial credentials are somewhat lacking, I feel.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Valmy on February 15, 2016, 09:00:19 PM
Post by: Valmy on February 15, 2016, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 15, 2016, 04:46:05 PMQuote from: Valmy on February 15, 2016, 12:05:38 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlTIk80uBPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlTIk80uBPg)
That game requires way too much effort to play. I feel like a need a real council of ministers giving me advice.
God I loved that Elvis Impersonator.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: grumbler on February 15, 2016, 10:01:54 PM
Post by: grumbler on February 15, 2016, 10:01:54 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 15, 2016, 09:00:19 PMQuote from: grumbler on February 15, 2016, 04:46:05 PMQuote from: Valmy on February 15, 2016, 12:05:38 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlTIk80uBPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlTIk80uBPg)
That game requires way too much effort to play. I feel like a need a real council of ministers giving me advice.
God I loved that Elvis Impersonator.
All of them were good, but Elvis definitely had the legs. I never tired of hearing his advice, unlike the others.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Razgovory on February 15, 2016, 10:08:29 PM
Post by: Razgovory on February 15, 2016, 10:08:29 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 15, 2016, 09:00:19 PMQuote from: grumbler on February 15, 2016, 04:46:05 PMQuote from: Valmy on February 15, 2016, 12:05:38 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlTIk80uBPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlTIk80uBPg)
That game requires way too much effort to play. I feel like a need a real council of ministers giving me advice.
God I loved that Elvis Impersonator.
I miss FMV.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 15, 2016, 10:12:25 PM
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 15, 2016, 10:12:25 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 15, 2016, 10:01:54 PM
All of them were good, but Elvis definitely had the legs. I never tired of hearing his advice, unlike the others.
I liked the chick 'cause she had a sexy voice.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Razgovory on February 16, 2016, 12:33:27 AM
Post by: Razgovory on February 16, 2016, 12:33:27 AM
For a short while Hastings (a book and video store) let you rent PC games. I remember renting Civ2 and finding out happily that the game did not need a CD to actually play it.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on March 24, 2016, 02:50:50 AM
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on March 24, 2016, 02:50:50 AM
The people have spoken :
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/24/new-zealand-votes-to-keep-its-flag-in-referendum
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/24/new-zealand-votes-to-keep-its-flag-in-referendum
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: celedhring on March 24, 2016, 03:22:18 AM
Post by: celedhring on March 24, 2016, 03:22:18 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 15, 2016, 10:12:25 PMQuote from: grumbler on February 15, 2016, 10:01:54 PM
All of them were good, but Elvis definitely had the legs. I never tired of hearing his advice, unlike the others.
I liked the chick 'cause she had a sexy voice.
My English was limited back then, but god that accent. :wub:
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: garbon on March 24, 2016, 03:32:57 AM
Post by: garbon on March 24, 2016, 03:32:57 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 24, 2016, 02:50:50 AM
The people have spoken :
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/24/new-zealand-votes-to-keep-its-flag-in-referendum
:swiss:
Good waste of energy and funds they spent on this nonsense. <_<
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Valmy on March 24, 2016, 08:44:37 AM
Post by: Valmy on March 24, 2016, 08:44:37 AM
You did the right thing New Zealand.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Monoriu on March 24, 2016, 09:00:38 AM
Post by: Monoriu on March 24, 2016, 09:00:38 AM
The status quo won :yes:
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: Brazen on March 24, 2016, 09:06:40 AM
Post by: Brazen on March 24, 2016, 09:06:40 AM
I'm guessing the Queen's imminent 90th birthday celebrations helped remind the Kiwis of their Commonwealth responsibilities.
Title: Re: What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?
Post by: lustindarkness on March 24, 2016, 09:12:23 AM
Post by: lustindarkness on March 24, 2016, 09:12:23 AM
So no laser eyes kiwi flag? :(