Ok not a computer matter. But my Plasma TV blew after only about two years :mad:
So, What should I get now in about the 60'' range?
I don't know because my plasma tv is still going strong in its 7th year now. :cool:
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 28, 2016, 05:48:32 PM
Ok not a computer matter. But my Plasma TV blew after only about two years :mad:
So, What should I get now in about the 60'' range?
What about a projector/ projecting TV?
Then when it eventually 'blows', you'll just have to buy an incredibly expensive replacement 'bulb'. :cool:
I future proofed a little with my Vizio 55" 4k tv. Vizio is the "budget" company but since comparable spec from Samsung and Sony were about $700-1,000 more I was content to get it. Along with upscaling blue ray player i bought Mad Max, Sciario and Avengers all looked great on it.
I recently upgraded from my Vizio 42" LCD (which was still going strong at about 9 years old), and got a 55" LED LCD Samsung 4K curved TV (gimmicky, I know, but what the hell). It was only about $1K at Costco.
The cool thing about TV upgrades, is that I had gotten the 42", as I only want a TV that I can carry/move by myself...and nowadays I can do that with a 55". :showoff:
You cross the border to the US & buy a Vizio at Costco.
Even with our atrocious exchange rate, it's worth it.
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 28, 2016, 05:48:32 PM
Ok not a computer matter. But my Plasma TV blew after only about two years :mad:
So, What should I get now in about the 60'' range?
Depends.
Do you have your tv in a bright living room, a very dark dedicated home theater room or somewhere in between?
How much are you willing to spend? 20-30k$ like Malthus*?
Samsung has decent plasmas in the 60" range, Panasonic has switched over to LCD and LED with mixed results while awaiting the next revolution.
LG has decent plasmas too.
Rule of thumb: buy the second most expensive set of the brand you pick. Avoid the cheap stuff, avoid the über high end marketed at a premium.
Or you could maybe try to find a repair shop for your tv and it won't cost you the price of a new one? Or it's been done already and they ask you an insane price for repairs?
This Panasonic (http://www.panasonic.com/ca/consumer/viera-televisions/4k-ultra-hd/tc-60cx800.html) will be good looking for some movies, but you might experience problems with quick action scenes, like other LCDs drawback. But since you're not a hockey fan, it might be good for you :P
You could also look through this forum, AVS (http://www.avsforum.com/forum/9-display-devices/) for tv reviews. Just keep in mind that most people there buy tvs like Malthus buys strollers, so their reviews tend to err on the side of perfection, even if the tv costs 15k$. But, still, it will give you an idea what to look for.
*If he buys 2000$ stroller, I can't imagine how much he puts on tv.
Those curvy ones do look rather lovely.
Samsung LED tv. Don't worry about the curvy crap. But by Samsung they are the best imho
Quote from: Tamas on February 01, 2016, 02:46:13 AM
Samsung LED tv. Don't worry about the curvy crap. But by Samsung they are the best imho
Yeah, I think I am going to avoid all the gimmicky curvy stuff. But I dont think I am going to get a Samsung though. My last lemon was a Samsung. I did some research and it turns out Samsung was using cheap components and ran into problems with the capacitors. Its hard to screw up a capacitor but they managed to do it. They settled a class action over the problem a couple years ago. Max compensation to class members was about 300 bucks.
I am not sure why they are still so highly rated. I am beginning to think that the ratings of TVs is about as trustworthy as ratings for video games on sites dependent on video game advertising.
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 02, 2016, 10:32:41 AM
Quote from: Tamas on February 01, 2016, 02:46:13 AM
Samsung LED tv. Don't worry about the curvy crap. But by Samsung they are the best imho
Yeah, I think I am going to avoid all the gimmicky curvy stuff. But I dont think I am going to get a Samsung though. My last lemon was a Samsung. I did some research and it turns out Samsung was using cheap components and ran into problems with the capacitors. Its hard to screw up a capacitor but they managed to do it. They settled a class action over the problem a couple years ago. Max compensation to class members was about 300 bucks.
I am not sure why they are still so highly rated. I am beginning to think that the ratings of TVs is about as trustworthy as ratings for video games on sites dependent on video game advertising.
curved tvs are good for 65" and +. You need a very large screen to see the benefits.
They are good for a dedicated home theater with minimal reflections and where you sit squarely in front of the tv; it's LCD technology so viewing angles are already bad to being with.
From what I have read the watching angle problem is increased with the curvature. I really liked the plasma - too bad it blew up and its too bad nobody really makes them anymore.
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 02, 2016, 12:30:17 PM
From what I have read the watching angle problem is increased with the curvature. I really liked the plasma - too bad it blew up and its too bad nobody really makes them anymore.
Samsung and LG still make it, I think. I can't find a clear answer on Samsung Canada's site. Pioneer and Panasonic dropped the ball on plasma. I think it just became too cheap and they couldn't charge a premium for it. If you really want plasma, you could check classified ads to see if someone is selling theirs.
I don't really like LG personally, but it could be my own prejudices. But between Samsung and LG, I'd pick Samsung.
It's a shame your tv blew, because I feel this isn't a right time to buy a new tv, too many emerging technologies, no clear winner yet.
I have no idea on 4k upscaling works in real life, but if it's like 1080p upscaling of lower quality sources, forget about it.
Quote from: viper37 on February 02, 2016, 02:03:42 PM
I have no idea on 4k upscaling works in real life,
it works, i have used it and can see the differences.
Viper, what new technologies do you have in mind and what is the timeline for it. I could live with my old TV that still works for a while. We dont actually watch that much TV.
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 03, 2016, 10:50:14 PM
Viper, what new technologies do you have in mind and what is the timeline for it. I could live with my old TV that still works for a while. We dont actually watch that much TV.
OLED, mainly. (http://www.cnet.com/products/lg-ef9500/) It's still very costly and it has a few bugs to squash, mainly on larger tv sets.
It's been around the corner since 2008, one day or another, it's bound to explode in consumer markets.
The LED lcds aren't totally bad, but they still suffer from poor viewing angles compared to a plasma.
I have no idea which manufacturers will make OLED tvs beside LG by 2018.
Samsung is promoting its quantom dot display technology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_dot_display), but it needs refinement.
Here is a review of the technology in Samsung LED tv compared to a LG Oled (http://www.extremetech.com/computing/214661-quantum-dots-oled-go-head-to-head-in-65-inch-displaymate-shootout).
HDR (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_imaging) is just beginning to be used in tv sets, and I doubt it's really optimized (and like 4k, not much content yet, and I have no idea is if it's worth it, but maybe Katmai can answer this question too :) )
So basically, I think that for the next two years, TVs are going to be priced much, much more than they are really worth (creaming) And in two more years, I'm pretty sure there will be more 4k content on the market, so it will really be worth it.
But, keep in mind that I am a difficult customer with technology :shutup: :ph34r: [/url]
Quote from: viper37 on February 02, 2016, 11:26:31 AM
curved tvs are good for 65" and +. You need a very large screen to see the benefits.
They are good for a dedicated home theater with minimal reflections and where you sit squarely in front of the tv; it's LCD technology so viewing angles are already bad to being with.
I've only ever seen them in stores, thus optimised for looking cool, but...really?
They seem to me to make screens look bigger thus are cool for reasonably small screens.
How old was that problematic Samsung TV of yours?
A few years ago my Dad bought a 70 inc Samsung and we had good fun researching which brand to buy before that, extensively, going to shops, looking at reviews etc. Samsung was easily the best and most versatile. Before that he had a smaller Samsung, I took it over after that, it is still going strong, now used by my Grandma :D
I have bought a 40 inch Samsung in England and I love it.
The thing is, it is clearly better than LG but not that much more expensive, it is slightly better than Sony but IIRC cheaper, it has all the features you can wish for AND you can buy upgrade kits later to upgrade the telly to the latest generation of whatever hardware/software improvements they make.
And just in case I missed it in the thread: for the love of god don't buy a plasma. They went obsolete about 6 years ago.
It might be obsolete but it does better blacks & has better viewing angle.
If all you do is watch movies, plasma is the way to go.
Quote from: Tyr on February 04, 2016, 07:11:34 AM
And just in case I missed it in the thread: for the love of god don't buy a plasma. They went obsolete about 6 years ago.
they're the best of a semi-dark room (ideally, dark room), movie and sports watching.
Try a non-exploding model this time.
So the good news is I followed Viper's advise and waited..... long enough for Samsung to decide to send a repair guy out to fix the TV even though it is outside the warranty period.
:showoff: :yeah:
good for you :)
Quote from: viper37 on February 15, 2016, 11:36:44 AM
:showoff: :yeah:
good for you :)
Actually all the credit goes the Mrs. CC. Word to the wise, never ever get on the wrong side of that lady.