MPs are set to debate and vote on a new national anthem for England. We currently use God Save The Queen, i.e. the same as for the UK as a whole. About time we had one of our own to sing at sports events like the Scots, Welsh and Irish, but I'm not sure MPs are best placed to select it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-35296296 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-35296296)
Here's my vote, what's yours?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_3NpGVJB_o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_3NpGVJB_o)
Land of Hope and Glory. Or Rule, Britannia! But the latter is probably more suitable as the anthem for the UK as a whole rather than England?
That's the problem with most of the alternatives, they're all UK-wide. Jerusalem is the top (serious) choice as it's the only one that's really England specific and mentions it in the lyrics (as well as a certain Middle Eastern city).
There'll Always Be An England could be a contender too.
No-one has suggested the alternative of England keeping God Save The queen - after all there's a little-sung verse about smashing the Scots - and the UK getting a new one instead.
I am not familiar with the Jerusalem song. But I just think that it is a little odd that your national anthem is named after a city in a totally foreign country.
God Save The Queen
You have to show those uppity Scots, Welsh and Irish that they are mere appendages of the English Empire.
Shouldn't be one. Seeing England as a monolithic united entry is something that needs tearing down.
Jerusalem is pretty awful as an anthem (I don't even care for it as a song, but that's beside the point; it's just not the right kind of music for an anthem). Land of Hope and Glory is very good, but in the US it is played at every graduation ceremony ever, so it would sound odd to American ears as a national anthem (not a killer consideration, but a consideration). I like the sound of "There'll Always be an England, but the opening lyrics are awkward. Maybe they just sing the refrain? That would work best, IMO.
Quote from: Tyr on January 13, 2016, 07:02:55 AM
Shouldn't be one. Seeing England as a monolithic united entry is something that needs tearing down.
I don't think the separatists should have a veto over the anthem, even when their grounds are
not strawman arguments.
Isn't Elgar's Pomp and Circumstance, March no. 1 already been used in some events?
EDIT: ah ok, i did not know it was called Land of Hope and Glory, too.
L.
Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen.
Jerusalem
I do love Jerusalem. They should go with the ELP version. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9TbiIEpZJ8
"England Belongs to Me" as performed by Cock Sparrer.
Roast Beef of Olde England.
Jerusalem is beautiful but as grumbler said absolutely not suitable for an anthem.
Obviously, it should be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G5rfPISIwo
Take Oh Canada & replace Canada with England.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz5nFNjEZZM
Obviously.
God Save the Queen.
I also love some parts of the God Save the Queen lyrics. Like this subtle dig:
QuoteMay she defend our laws
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice
God save the Queen
Quote from: Malthus on January 13, 2016, 10:40:18 AM
I do love Jerusalem. They should go with the ELP version. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9TbiIEpZJ8
Sometimes I wonder what exactly we all missed out on when Jimi Hendrix died before he could join ELP and make it HELP. I bet it would have been epic.
I don't give a toss about it and am somewhat suspicious of the motives of those who're moving this 'idea'. :bowler:
Quote from: Tamas on January 13, 2016, 11:29:28 AM
Jerusalem is beautiful but as grumbler said absolutely not suitable for an anthem.
Obviously, it should be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G5rfPISIwo
Aces High?
Paschendale?
There might be half a dozen Maiden songs that would work. :P
It has to be Jerusalem if it is not God Save the Queen. It was pretty much used as such during the 2012 London Olympics opening ceremony IIRC.
Quote from: mongers on January 13, 2016, 02:43:29 PM
I don't give a toss about it and am somewhat suspicious of the motives of those who're moving this 'idea'. :bowler:
England feels left out of the nationalist douchebaggery antics the smaller countries in the UK indulge in.
Obviously the Great Escape March: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjF8sjuPLxU
In the interests of silliness - Panic by The Smiths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMykYSQaG_c
Quote from: grumbler on January 13, 2016, 07:21:48 AM
Quote from: Tyr on January 13, 2016, 07:02:55 AM
Shouldn't be one. Seeing England as a monolithic united entry is something that needs tearing down.
I don't think the separatists should have a veto over the anthem, even when their grounds are not strawman arguments.
:huh:
What on earth are you talking about?
Quote from: Tyr on January 13, 2016, 05:03:57 PM
In the interests of silliness - Panic by The Smiths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMykYSQaG_c
Quote from: grumbler on January 13, 2016, 07:21:48 AM
Quote from: Tyr on January 13, 2016, 07:02:55 AM
Shouldn't be one. Seeing England as a monolithic united entry is something that needs tearing down.
I don't think the separatists should have a veto over the anthem, even when their grounds are not strawman arguments.
:huh:
What on earth are you talking about?
:huh: I quoted the post I was responding to.
https://youtu.be/Kn7NGJezKSQ
:P
You know, when I was playing soccer in high school, I decided to be a Tottenham fan.
It seemed like a good idea at the time. :lol:
Walk street shuffle by 10cc and change it to The City Shuffle. Reflects the powers that be in England very well I think
I like that one Elton John song about being made in England. Forget what it's called.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AE1rUqecfA0
Quote from: Caliga on January 14, 2016, 08:23:41 PM
I like that one Elton John song about being made in England. Forget what it's called.
I think it was called "The Bus That Wouldn't Slow Down". :P
Nah, it was called "Made in England".
Surprised nobody suggested Anarchy in the U.K.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on January 15, 2016, 10:08:24 AM
Surprised nobody suggested Anarchy in the U.K.
Um it is a song about the U.K. and we are talking about England.
Quote from: Valmy on January 15, 2016, 10:10:03 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on January 15, 2016, 10:08:24 AM
Surprised nobody suggested Anarchy in the U.K.
Um it is a song about the U.K. and we are talking about England.
I know, but I was not serious.
PS: not so serious ones (bit less so), River Kwai March or Colonel Bogey March. :) Still not purely English enough but then so is Hail to England, since it is from the US heavy metal band Manowar. :hmm:
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on January 15, 2016, 10:08:24 AM
Surprised nobody suggested Anarchy in the U.K.
A few people suggested God Save the Queen. I just assumed they meant the Sex Pistols version.
Just play God Save the Queen - the verse about beating up the Scots. :D
QuoteLord, grant that Marshal Wade,
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
and like a torrent rush
Rebellious Scots to crush!
God save the Queen!
Only the evil rebellious ones.
Quote from: Valmy on January 15, 2016, 10:54:10 AM
Only the evil rebellious ones.
Isn't that all of them? :hmm: