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Title: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Jacob on December 18, 2015, 03:25:15 PM
30% of Republicans support bombing Agrabah (and only 13% are against), with as many as 41% of Trumps supporters in favour (and only 9% against). Even among Democrats, there is some support (19%), though 36% are against [with the remainder being unsure or having no opinion].

You can look at the survey results here: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/GOPResults.pdf

And here are some of the key summaries of the poll (not just covering Agrabah): http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/12/trump-leads-grows-nationally-41-of-his-voters-want-to-bomb-country-from-aladdin-clinton-maintains-bi.html

Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2015, 03:29:19 PM
What's so special about Agrabah?  Is that the Muslim Armaggedon?
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Archy on December 18, 2015, 03:31:53 PM
I suggest we start bombing Arendelle.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Jacob on December 18, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2015, 03:29:19 PM
What's so special about Agrabah?  Is that the Muslim Armaggedon?

It's the fictional county in which Disney's Aladdin took place.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2015, 03:36:52 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 18, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
It's the fictional county in which Disney's Aladdin took place.

Asoka.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: FunkMonk on December 18, 2015, 03:38:05 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: mongers on December 18, 2015, 03:40:02 PM
This prompts the suggestion, what about only allowing politicians and the electorate to back bombing of a country if they can actually locate it on a world map?
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Berkut on December 18, 2015, 03:44:49 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 18, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2015, 03:29:19 PM
What's so special about Agrabah?  Is that the Muslim Armaggedon?

It's the fictional county in which Disney's Aladdin took place.

:lmfao:
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Berkut on December 18, 2015, 03:45:35 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 18, 2015, 03:25:15 PM
30% of Republicans support bombing Agrabah (and only 13% are against), with as many as 41% of Trumps supporters in favour (and only 9% against). Even among Democrats, there is some support (19%), though 36% are against [with the remainder being unsure or having no opinion].

You can look at the survey results here: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/GOPResults.pdf

And here are some of the key summaries of the poll (not just covering Agrabah): http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/12/trump-leads-grows-nationally-41-of-his-voters-want-to-bomb-country-from-aladdin-clinton-maintains-bi.html

I want to know which of the current GOP candidates were in favor...
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: The Brain on December 18, 2015, 03:52:13 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 18, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2015, 03:29:19 PM
What's so special about Agrabah?  Is that the Muslim Armaggedon?

It's the fictional county in which Disney's Aladdin took place.

Like a ME Hazzard?
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Monoriu on December 18, 2015, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 18, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2015, 03:29:19 PM
What's so special about Agrabah?  Is that the Muslim Armaggedon?

It's the fictional county in which Disney's Aladdin took place.

:blink:
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 18, 2015, 04:08:08 PM
QuoteSupporters of most of the major GOP candidates agree with the basic premise that Islam should be legal in the United States- it's 59/21 with Cruz voters, 67/11 with Bush voters, and 77/10 with Rubio voters. Trump supporters are off on their own on that one too though- just 33% think Islam should be legal to 42% who think it should be illegal. Overall 53% of primary voters think Islam should be allowed to just 26% who don't think it should be.

So Trump voters don't support the First Amendment? :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: The Minsky Moment on December 18, 2015, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: Berkut on December 18, 2015, 03:45:35 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 18, 2015, 03:25:15 PM
30% of Republicans support bombing Agrabah (and only 13% are against), with as many as 41% of Trumps supporters in favour (and only 9% against). Even among Democrats, there is some support (19%), though 36% are against [with the remainder being unsure or having no opinion].

You can look at the survey results here: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/GOPResults.pdf

And here are some of the key summaries of the poll (not just covering Agrabah): http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/12/trump-leads-grows-nationally-41-of-his-voters-want-to-bomb-country-from-aladdin-clinton-maintains-bi.html

I want to know which of the current GOP candidates were in favor...

Rick Perry is already out of the race so he doesn't count . . .
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2015, 04:10:26 PM
QuoteOverall 53% of primary voters think Islam should be allowed to just 26% who don't think it should be.

Is that all primary voters or just Republicans?
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: The Minsky Moment on December 18, 2015, 04:10:50 PM
That said, Agrabah IS ruled by an evil vizier who intends to unleash a weapon of mass destruction to fuel his ambitions of conquest and usurpation.  The case for bombing is pretty decent.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Valmy on December 18, 2015, 04:15:11 PM
26% of Primary voters want to outlaw a religion and this is considered a small amount?
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Valmy on December 18, 2015, 04:16:58 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on December 18, 2015, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 18, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2015, 03:29:19 PM
What's so special about Agrabah?  Is that the Muslim Armaggedon?

It's the fictional county in which Disney's Aladdin took place.

:blink:

I guess I expected Americans to be ignorant of geography but to know so little about Disney films is a national disgrace. Is there anything Americans DO know something about?
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: viper37 on December 18, 2015, 04:24:56 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 18, 2015, 04:16:58 PM
Is there anything Americans DO know something about?
2nd amendment and State's rights. ;)
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Razgovory on December 18, 2015, 04:27:24 PM
I don't want to Defend Republicans here, but that is kind of a chickenshit thing to put in a poll.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: DGuller on December 18, 2015, 04:28:43 PM
If you've always been for bombing any Arab place, then it makes sense to just go "yeah, sure", and just assume that Agrabah is some ISIS stronghold city whose name sounds familiar.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Valmy on December 18, 2015, 04:38:40 PM
Quote from: viper37 on December 18, 2015, 04:24:56 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 18, 2015, 04:16:58 PM
Is there anything Americans DO know something about?
2nd amendment and State's rights. ;)

Clearly not 1st amendment rights.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Razgovory on December 18, 2015, 04:45:15 PM
Quote from: viper37 on December 18, 2015, 04:24:56 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 18, 2015, 04:16:58 PM
Is there anything Americans DO know something about?
2nd amendment and State's rights. ;)

States don't have rights.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: The Brain on December 18, 2015, 04:49:32 PM
They do. Their own or someone else's.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: lustindarkness on December 18, 2015, 04:57:24 PM
We should bomb Mordor first.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: alfred russel on December 18, 2015, 05:33:10 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 18, 2015, 04:27:24 PM
I don't want to Defend Republicans here, but that is kind of a chickenshit thing to put in a poll.

No it isnt. It accurately guages how much of the population is in favor of bombing vaguely arab sounding places without as a default opinion.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Razgovory on December 18, 2015, 05:49:01 PM
It feels like a trick question.  You could probably get a sizable number of people to support a ban dihydrogen monoxide.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 18, 2015, 05:54:21 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 18, 2015, 05:49:01 PM
It feels like a trick question.  You could probably get a sizable number of people to support a ban dihydrogen monoxide.

Yeah, it seems better suited for Jimmy Kimmel than a serious poll.

The numbers wanting to ban Islam are more worrisome.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Razgovory on December 18, 2015, 06:29:03 PM
Indeed.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: The Brain on December 18, 2015, 06:31:40 PM
You banned Russia.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: alfred russel on December 18, 2015, 06:35:56 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 18, 2015, 05:49:01 PM
It feels like a trick question.  You could probably get a sizable number of people to support a ban dihydrogen monoxide.

Which is also both telling and useful to know.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: dps on December 18, 2015, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 18, 2015, 05:49:01 PM
It feels like a trick question.  You could probably get a sizable number of people to support a ban dihydrogen monoxide.

In Virginia, gas pumps have signs on them that say, "Virginia law bans spills".  I always wondered why, while they were at it, the Virginia legislature didn't also pass laws banning stubbing your toe or falling in the shower.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 18, 2015, 07:53:13 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 18, 2015, 06:31:40 PM
You banned Russia.

Shouldn't the bombing have started by now?
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: celedhring on December 18, 2015, 08:10:46 PM
Well, this survey gave a whole new meaning to the term "carpet bombing".
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Ed Anger on December 18, 2015, 08:36:45 PM
I'd bomb Jasmine in the butt.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Tonitrus on December 18, 2015, 08:50:10 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 18, 2015, 08:36:45 PM
I'd bomb Jasmine in the butt.

Hey, she is CdM's fantasy Disney anal princess.  :mad:
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Ed Anger on December 18, 2015, 08:54:26 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 18, 2015, 08:50:10 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 18, 2015, 08:36:45 PM
I'd bomb Jasmine in the butt.

Hey, she is CdM's fantasy Disney anal princess.  :mad:

In his absence, I have annexed her ass for Edlandia. HAIL ED
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: grumbler on December 18, 2015, 11:33:52 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 18, 2015, 08:54:26 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 18, 2015, 08:50:10 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 18, 2015, 08:36:45 PM
I'd bomb Jasmine in the butt.

Hey, she is CdM's fantasy Disney anal princess.  :mad:

In his absence, I have annexed her ass for Edlandia. HAIL ED

There is significant support for bombing Anschluss, too. Watch out.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on December 19, 2015, 03:08:39 AM
:D
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: The Brain on December 19, 2015, 04:26:11 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 18, 2015, 07:53:13 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 18, 2015, 06:31:40 PM
You banned Russia.

Shouldn't the bombing have started by now?

You're also tardy.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Martinus on December 19, 2015, 04:49:29 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 18, 2015, 04:10:50 PM
That said, Agrabah IS ruled by an evil vizier who intends to unleash a weapon of mass destruction to fuel his ambitions of conquest and usurpation.  The case for bombing is pretty decent.

At least he is predictable and offers stability. Not sure if replacing him with genie anarchy is better.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Martinus on December 19, 2015, 04:56:12 AM
Also, I bet if you went to a liberal university campus and asked if Charles Manson should be let out as a victim of racist judicial system, you would get a majority support...
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Martinus on December 19, 2015, 04:59:54 AM
Speaking of worrisome polls:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-millennials-ok-with-limiting-speech-offensive-to-minorities/

Quote40% of American Millennials say the government should be able to prevent people from saying offensive statements about minority groups, according to a new analysis of Pew Research Center survey data on free speech and media across the globe.

Banning free speech is much more worrisome than banning a religion, imho.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: The Brain on December 19, 2015, 05:03:42 AM
I don't think PewDiePie Research is a reputable source.
Title: Re: Significant Support for Bombing Agrabah
Post by: Zanza on December 19, 2015, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 19, 2015, 04:59:54 AM
Speaking of worrisome polls:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-millennials-ok-with-limiting-speech-offensive-to-minorities/

Quote40% of American Millennials say the government should be able to prevent people from saying offensive statements about minority groups, according to a new analysis of Pew Research Center survey data on free speech and media across the globe.

Banning free speech is much more worrisome than banning a religion, imho.
Europeans are much more likely to support these limitations on free speech according to that poll.