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Poll
Question: Who is your favorite American late night show host?
Option 1: Jimmy Kimmel votes: 1
Option 2: Jimmy Fallon votes: 4
Option 3: Conan O'Brien votes: 3
Option 4: Stephen Colbert votes: 7
Option 5: Seth Meyers votes: 0
Option 6: James Corden votes: 1
Option 7: Carson Daly votes: 0
Option 8: I'm counting John Oliver though his show is only once a week, damnit! votes: 7
Option 9: Somebody Else votes: 0
Option 10: Ghost of Johnny Carson votes: 7
Title: Late Night Wars
Post by: Eddie Teach on November 05, 2015, 10:46:55 PM
My impressions from watching lots of clips on youtube:
Colbert- the most consistently funny and most political oriented humor
Kimmel- lots of hilariously mean humor
Fallon- some great bits(like the lip sync contests), but overall show looks kinda dull
Conan- funnier than Fallon, but doesn't pull the big celebrities in for skits
Seth Meyers- :zzz
Craig Ferguson(not on anymore)- Big flirt
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Ed Anger on November 05, 2015, 10:48:13 PM
I can't stand Colbert. I'd rather watch flies fuck.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Martinus on November 06, 2015, 01:44:01 AM
John Oliver hands down. He has more insight in his little finger than the rest of them combined, with the possible exception of Colbert. All of the others (than Oliver and Colbert) are entertainer sell-outs, really.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Martinus on November 06, 2015, 01:44:22 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 05, 2015, 10:48:13 PM
I can't stand Colbert. I'd rather watch flies fuck.

Well, he is annoying, yeah.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2015, 01:50:32 AM
I think Fallon, Kimmel and Colbert are all great.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Admiral Yi on November 06, 2015, 03:12:44 AM
I'm glad I got to watch Letterman in his prime.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Liep on November 06, 2015, 07:10:28 AM
John Oliver was better in The Bugle. :hipster:
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Grey Fox on November 06, 2015, 07:12:56 AM
I like John Oliver because I can watch it on youtube. The others are on way too late.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: lustindarkness on November 06, 2015, 07:43:36 AM
Stephen Colbert
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Berkut on November 06, 2015, 08:14:56 AM
John Oliver isn't even in the running. He doesn't host a late night talk show.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: garbon on November 06, 2015, 08:19:32 AM
None. I'm not teh olds.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Brazen on November 06, 2015, 11:39:50 AM
I found out this morning that Craig Ferguson was in punk band The Dreamboys with Peter Capaldi.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbcamerica.com%2Fanglophenia%2Ffiles%2F2013%2F08%2FDreamboys-1.jpg&hash=b9c3a83f7077a0de34dbf2645be3053c7f70e3bc)
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: garbon on November 06, 2015, 11:46:35 AM
Love it!
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: crazy canuck on November 06, 2015, 01:20:14 PM
Since Oliver was an option I voted for him.  If he was off the list I would have voted Colbert.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Valmy on November 06, 2015, 01:24:32 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on November 06, 2015, 07:43:36 AM
Stephen Colbert

Yep. The only one worth watching IMO. Not counting Oliver who is not a late night guy.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: The Brain on November 06, 2015, 01:26:37 PM
Oliver isn't late night.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: celedhring on November 06, 2015, 01:37:01 PM
I haven't been able to follow Colbert since he started hosting The Late Show. Is he still as good?
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: crazy canuck on November 06, 2015, 01:52:41 PM
Quote from: celedhring on November 06, 2015, 01:37:01 PM
I haven't been able to follow Colbert since he started hosting The Late Show. Is he still as good?

I think he is actually better now.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Caliga on November 06, 2015, 02:21:43 PM
We should also have a poll on who was the worst late night host ever:

Jay Leno
Jay Leno
Jay Leno
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: mongers on November 06, 2015, 02:27:11 PM
Null vote; Graham Norton.   :bowler:
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Barrister on November 06, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 06, 2015, 02:21:43 PM
We should also have a poll on who was the worst late night host ever:

Jay Leno
Jay Leno
Jay Leno

Oh come on, there have been plenty of terrible Late Night hosts.

Joan Rivers?  Pat Sajak?  Arsenio Hall?  Bill Maher?  Trevor Noah?
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: KRonn on November 06, 2015, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 06, 2015, 02:21:43 PM
We should also have a poll on who was the worst late night host ever:

Jay Leno
Jay Leno
Jay Leno

:mad:  :mad:  :mad:

:hug:
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: KRonn on November 06, 2015, 02:31:54 PM
Jimmy Fallon is probably my favorite, with Kimmel a close second. But my over all fav was Jay Leno.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Liep on November 06, 2015, 02:32:56 PM
Quote from: celedhring on November 06, 2015, 01:37:01 PM
I haven't been able to follow Colbert since he started hosting The Late Show. Is he still as good?

There's quite a lot of the show on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMtFAi84ehTSYSE9XoHefig
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: DGuller on November 06, 2015, 02:37:07 PM
Leno and Fallon strike me as very vapid comedians.  They go for cheap forgettable laughs, never seeking or succeeding at making any kind of a point with their jokes.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Caliga on November 06, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 06, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Oh come on, there have been plenty of terrible Late Night hosts.
I know.  :sleep:
Quote
Joan Rivers?  Pat Sajak?  Arsenio Hall?  Bill Maher?  Trevor Noah?
I liked Joan Rivers. :(
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Caliga on November 06, 2015, 02:37:41 PM
Quote from: DGuller on November 06, 2015, 02:37:07 PM
Leno and Fallon strike me as very vapid comedians.  They go for cheap forgettable laughs, never seeking or succeeding at making any kind of a point with their jokes.
Fallon is bad at straight comedy, I agree, but his skits are great.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: The Brain on November 06, 2015, 02:48:14 PM
Quote from: DGuller on November 06, 2015, 02:37:07 PM
They go for cheap forgettable laughs, never seeking or succeeding at making any kind of a point with their jokes.

:angry: WTF is wrong with this?
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: celedhring on November 06, 2015, 02:58:42 PM
Fallon is charming and funny, but very tame.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: celedhring on November 06, 2015, 03:00:04 PM
Quote from: Liep on November 06, 2015, 02:32:56 PM
Quote from: celedhring on November 06, 2015, 01:37:01 PM
I haven't been able to follow Colbert since he started hosting The Late Show. Is he still as good?

There's quite a lot of the show on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMtFAi84ehTSYSE9XoHefig

I know, it was more a matter "I don't really have much time nowadays" than lack of access.

[spoiler]And the little spare time I have I sink it into SWTOR  :blush:[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: frunk on November 06, 2015, 03:16:28 PM
James Corden is the most talented man in late night, the best actor, singer, dancer.  He isn't that great an interviewer, but Reggie Watts makes it all worthwhile.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Barrister on November 06, 2015, 03:27:03 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 06, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 06, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Oh come on, there have been plenty of terrible Late Night hosts.
I know.  :sleep:
Quote
Joan Rivers?  Pat Sajak?  Arsenio Hall?  Bill Maher?  Trevor Noah?
I liked Joan Rivers. :(

By the way the real worst late night host was Mike Bullard.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Eddie Teach on November 06, 2015, 04:32:03 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 06, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 06, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Joan Rivers?  Pat Sajak?  Arsenio Hall?  Bill Maher?  Trevor Noah?
I liked Joan Rivers. :(

Arsenio Hall was rather entertaining for a kid up past bedtime.  :sleep:
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Savonarola on November 06, 2015, 04:47:57 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 06, 2015, 04:32:03 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 06, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 06, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Joan Rivers?  Pat Sajak?  Arsenio Hall?  Bill Maher?  Trevor Noah?
I liked Joan Rivers. :(

Arsenio Hall was rather entertaining for a kid up past bedtime.  :sleep:

New rap sensation Chunky A! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Exv8_tbTY)

In any event Magic Johnson's "The Magic Hour" was undoubtedly the worst Late Night show.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Valmy on November 06, 2015, 04:57:28 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on November 06, 2015, 04:47:57 PM
In any event Magic Johnson's "The Magic Hour" was undoubtedly the worst Late Night show.

Boy you got that right.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Eddie Teach on November 06, 2015, 04:58:00 PM
Is that Peter Dinklage at 2:06?  :hmm:
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: dps on November 06, 2015, 06:18:36 PM
Quote from: The Brain on November 06, 2015, 02:48:14 PM
Quote from: DGuller on November 06, 2015, 02:37:07 PM
They go for cheap forgettable laughs, never seeking or succeeding at making any kind of a point with their jokes.

:angry: WTF is wrong with this?

Agree, there's nothing wrong with that approach.  The problem with Leno once he took over The Tonight Show was that he aimed low, and still missed. 

IMO, he was a lot better before he got the late night gig.  Kind of the opposite of Letterman, who didn't hit his stride until he moved to late night.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on November 06, 2015, 08:01:13 PM
I can't even answer the poll. I guess I liked Colbert when I occasionally watched him on Comedy Central, but I just don't watch the late shows anymore. In the 80s and 90s, and really early 2000s (maybe up to 2003ish), I watched them but not since then. I thought Letterman was the best in the 80s, I liked him way better than Carson (who in that era was solidly grandpa territory TV), and liked Letterman through the mid-90s when I started liking Conan a lot. By the end of the era in which I watched the late shows I'd turn the TV on for Conan's show but would skip Letterman and Leno entirely. Leno was never very good, and I would typically only watch him on the rare occasion where Letterman had something boring on and Leno had a really high profile guest.

These days, some 12+ years later, I literally cannot even imagine sitting down and watching a nightly variety show. It's so alien to how I watch TV in general these days.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: The Brain on November 07, 2015, 02:58:28 AM
I didn't watch Letterman until the 90s, and he seemed a bit out of it.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Sophie Scholl on November 07, 2015, 10:47:20 PM
I watched Ferguson fairly regularly.  Now?  No one really.  If there is a specific guest or musical act I want to see, I'll watch whichever show they happen to be on.  I miss Craig, Geoff, and Secretariat. :(
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: garbon on November 11, 2015, 03:45:56 AM
I wouldn't watch his show, but only one person brought me this remake of Ironic.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/christianzamora/alanis-morissette-updated-ironic-lyrics-with-modern-struggle#.sr6ov9q40

Oddly enough though I watched the video last night, it is now no longer available in my country. :D
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: KRonn on November 11, 2015, 09:51:44 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on November 06, 2015, 08:01:13 PM

These days, some 12+ years later, I literally cannot even imagine sitting down and watching a nightly variety show. It's so alien to how I watch TV in general these days.

I also rarely watch the shows, usually I'm in bed before then, but I often check to see who their guests are and will record it if I want to see the guest.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: The Minsky Moment on November 11, 2015, 05:48:07 PM
Quote from: Martinus on November 06, 2015, 01:44:01 AM
John Oliver hands down. He has more insight in his little finger than the rest of them combined, with the possible exception of Colbert. All of the others (than Oliver and Colbert) are entertainer sell-outs, really.

?
They are late night talk show hosts.  They are supposed to be entertainers.  That is their job, period. "Insight" has nothing to do with the job.  Anything else is just on the side.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: DGuller on November 11, 2015, 05:57:50 PM
You can entertain by performing cute animal tricks, or you can entertain by cerebral humor.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: garbon on November 11, 2015, 05:58:43 PM
I've always preferred celestial humor.
Title: Re: Late Night Wars
Post by: Admiral Yi on November 11, 2015, 06:00:12 PM
Preferably you would entertain by flattering Marty's biases.  That's usually very insightful.