http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/11883547/Miss-Italy-second-gaffe.html
QuoteMiss Italy second gaffe
New Miss Italy makes a gaffe she's paying for dearly on social media after answering "1942" when asked live on TV by judges what historical period she would like to live in
When the new Miss Italia was asked on her way to winning the glitzy televised contest what historical period she would like to have lived in, her answer was probably not quite what most Italians would have expected.
Eighteen-year-old Alice Sabatini has drawn a torrent of online ridicule after telling her pageant judges her epoch of choice was 1942 - one of the darkest years of the Second World War and the Mussolini dictatorship.
Asked why she had chosen that year, the contestant from Lazio said she wanted to "live" the Second World War, noting she would not have had to fight as she is a woman.
"Well . . . to see really what the Second World War was like, since the books talk about it for page after page. I . . I want to live it. In any case I am a woman so I wouldn't have had to do military service, so I would have been at home with the fear of . . ." she said, trailing off with a light laugh.
It was in 1942 that Anne Frank began writing her diary, and that the Nazis began gassing to death tens of thousands of Jews at Auschwitz and other camps.
Italy was allied with Germany at the time, and that year, they invaded unoccupied Vichy France. Hundreds of Italians died for the fascist cause in the brutal North African campaign, including in the long retreat from the Battle of El Alamein in 1942. And more than 20,000 Italians died in the Battle of Stalingrad that year, many during the bloody defeat of the Italian 8th Army in Russia near the Don River.
Miss Sabatini's strange desire to relive one of the continent's bloodiest years triggered a swift and savage online barrage of satirical memes. Twitter montages featured the brunette beauty queen smiling as she sashayed in her bikini through war-ravaged battlefields. An Italian satirist known as "The Jackal" produced a spoof video that quickly went viral.
But Miss Sabatini's unorthodox response didn't seem to damage her standing in the pageant, which she won based on both judge's scores and viewer call-in votes.
The jokes at the 18-year-old's expense prompted one of the pageant's judges, Vladimir Luxuria, a transgender actress and politician, to call for more comprehension of the gaffe. "Try to imagine the emotions of a young woman who had all the spotlight on her: She panicked."
Miss Sabatini on Tuesday defended her comments, saying she was nervous and caught off guard as the first contestant to be asked the question, but had meant to express admiration for her great grandmother, who is still alive and always recalls the Second World War.
"I would have liked to live through what she had gone through in those years," Ms. Sabatini was reported as saying in an interview published in Urban Post. "For better and for worse."
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I could understand if she wanted to see first hand what went on, what it was like, but she seems to think it was an exciting and kind of romantic time, not the hardship and mess it was. Even as a woman, a civilian, that was no bargain in WW2 with battles raging through towns, villages and cities, bombings, deprivation of food and shelter, fuel for heating and cooking, sickness and lack of medical care and supplies. If she had talked about it like that and still wanted to experience it for the history of it she might have been able to make a point.
Wow. The Manufactured Outrage Machine jumped the shark long, long ago, but even for it, this seems absurd.
The US still occasionally goes through that whole romanticized-WW2 shtick with the "greatest generation' nonsense, and the MOM is silent.
Quote from: grumbler on September 24, 2015, 08:49:16 AM
Wow. The Manufactured Outrage Machine jumped the shark long, long ago, but even for it, this seems absurd.
I'm bored at work, gimme a break. :P
Quote from: grumbler on September 24, 2015, 08:49:16 AM
The US still occasionally goes through that whole romanticized-WW2 shtick with the "greatest generation' nonsense, and the MOM is silent.
They were a bunch of spoiled children, right?
Once you live through the Thirty Years' War, WWII doesn't quite feel the same way.
The real crime is that the posted pic doesn't make her look all that hott. :hmm:
Quote from: Syt on September 24, 2015, 08:50:23 AM
I'm bored at work, gimme a break. :P
I was blaming the telegraph and the twitterverse, not you.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 24, 2015, 08:50:56 AM
Quote from: grumbler on September 24, 2015, 08:49:16 AM
The US still occasionally goes through that whole romanticized-WW2 shtick with the "greatest generation' nonsense, and the MOM is silent.
They were a bunch of spoiled children, right?
:huh: Umm, okay...
*slides to the left*
*turns and runs*
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
The real crime is that the posted pic doesn't make her look all that hott. :hmm:
I wasn't going to go there, but, yeah.
Salò! :yeah:
Quote from: grumbler on September 24, 2015, 09:06:15 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
The real crime is that the posted pic doesn't make her look all that hott. :hmm:
I wasn't going to go there, but, yeah.
Maybe Italians find the smarts hot? :hmm:
And yes I know the Italian Social Republic wasn't proclaimed until '43. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
The real crime is that the posted pic doesn't make her look all that hott. :hmm:
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2 points off for the bob cut. Otherwise:
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Much better. :D
Cute yes, but she has a big, lame Air Jordan tattoo on her right hip. :yucky:
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 24, 2015, 09:51:26 AM
Cute yes, but she has a big, lame Air Jordan tattoo on her right hip. :yucky:
That's because she's actually a basketball player, she plays for a 2nd division team which, I'm sure, will love the publicity. :lol:
1: She is pretty damn hot, especially since she isn't stupidly anorexic.
2: She is 18. For an 18 year old, that is a pretty trivial "gaffe".
Quote from: Berkut on September 24, 2015, 11:39:10 AM
1: She is pretty damn hot, especially since she isn't stupidly anorexic.
It's Italy, they like them voluptuous over there.
Great figure, not crazy about her mug, totally apart from the do.
Who wouldn't?
You can call me Il Duce baby :perv:
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
The real crime is that the posted pic doesn't make her look all that hott. :hmm:
OK, Adonis.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 24, 2015, 03:52:21 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
The real crime is that the posted pic doesn't make her look all that hott. :hmm:
OK, Adonis.
It's a critique of the pic, not of the model. :P Model is hott, see pic posted lower down.
The correct snark would be "OK, Photojournalist."
To be fair if Malthus was named 'Sexiest Torontonian 2015' somebody might want a flattering picture of him as well.
Quote from: Valmy on September 24, 2015, 03:57:09 PM
To be fair if Malthus was named 'Sexiest Torontonian 2015' somebody might want a flattering picture of him as well.
Waddaya mean "if"? Are you saying I'm not? :(
Clearly that would be Rob Ford.
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 04:02:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 24, 2015, 03:57:09 PM
To be fair if Malthus was named 'Sexiest Torontonian 2015' somebody might want a flattering picture of him as well.
Waddaya mean "if"? Are you saying I'm not? :(
Let's just say your chances were better in 1985 than 2015.
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 03:55:55 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 24, 2015, 03:52:21 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
The real crime is that the posted pic doesn't make her look all that hott. :hmm:
OK, Adonis.
It's a critique of the pic, not of the model. :P Model is hott, see pic posted lower down.
The correct snark would be "OK, Photojournalist."
I thought she was HOTT even in the first pic. :sleep:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 24, 2015, 06:33:29 PM
Clearly that would be Rob Ford.
I admit, it's hard to match that. :Embarrass:
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 24, 2015, 08:47:20 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 03:55:55 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 24, 2015, 03:52:21 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
The real crime is that the posted pic doesn't make her look all that hott. :hmm:
OK, Adonis.
It's a critique of the pic, not of the model. :P Model is hott, see pic posted lower down.
The correct snark would be "OK, Photojournalist."
I thought she was HOTT even in the first pic. :sleep:
Fuck yeah. I wouldn't mind having her in my foxhole.
Quote from: The Brain on September 25, 2015, 09:23:01 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 24, 2015, 08:47:20 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 03:55:55 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 24, 2015, 03:52:21 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
The real crime is that the posted pic doesn't make her look all that hott. :hmm:
OK, Adonis.
It's a critique of the pic, not of the model. :P Model is hott, see pic posted lower down.
The correct snark would be "OK, Photojournalist."
I thought she was HOTT even in the first pic. :sleep:
Fuck yeah. I wouldn't mind having her in my foxhole.
What about the fox?
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 25, 2015, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: The Brain on September 25, 2015, 09:23:01 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 24, 2015, 08:47:20 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 03:55:55 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 24, 2015, 03:52:21 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
The real crime is that the posted pic doesn't make her look all that hott. :hmm:
OK, Adonis.
It's a critique of the pic, not of the model. :P Model is hott, see pic posted lower down.
The correct snark would be "OK, Photojournalist."
I thought she was HOTT even in the first pic. :sleep:
Fuck yeah. I wouldn't mind having her in my foxhole.
What about the fox?
There's Brain enough for all I think.
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 24, 2015, 08:47:20 PM
I thought she was HOTT even in the first pic. :sleep:
Needs more camel toe, but I'd agree otherwise.
Quote from: Caliga on September 25, 2015, 11:48:34 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 24, 2015, 08:47:20 PM
I thought she was HOTT even in the first pic. :sleep:
Needs more camel toe, but I'd agree otherwise.
:w00t: :hug:
First picture bad.
Second picture- hell yes