http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/news/article/russian-anti-globalization-movement-to-unite-separatists-from-western-countries/530994.html
QuoteRussian 'Anti-Globalization' Movement to Unite Separatists From Western Countries
A self-professed anti-globalization movement that reportedly enjoys Kremlin support is hosting a congress this weekend in Moscow which will unite separatist activists from around the world.
The conference, titled "A dialogue of nations: Peoples' right to self-determination and the building of a multi-polar world," will be held Sunday at Moscow's President Hotel and is apparently intended as a jab at Western governments, as well as a nod to separatist groups outside Russia's borders.
"The governments of the largest Western states, in a fight for their geopolitical interests, are increasingly disregarding the rights and freedoms of the people living in their countries," the organizers, the Anti-Globalization Movement of Russia, said in an online statement. "Ordinary people are increasingly thinking about whether they can stop being hostage to the egotistical, sometimes destructive, policies of ruling elites."
It named Texas, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Catalonia, Scotland, Ireland, Venice and Western Sahara as examples of "territories and ethnic groups" considering independence bids.
The territories "have a full right to declare their self-sufficiency and independence from other states," the statement added.
Guests at the conference will include envoys from the Texas Nationalist Movement, the Uhuru Movement, the Irish Republican Socialist Party, Ireland's Sinn Fein political party and the Catalan Solidarity for Independence coalition, along with radical or independence-minded groups from Puerto Rico, Hawaii and Western Sahara, according to the statement.
The Russian anti-globalization movement, which organized the gathering, is partly funded by the Kremlin, the RBC business news agency reported, citing the head of the movement Alexander Ionov.
Moscow supports pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine, but criminalizes calls for separatism or increased regional autonomy at home.
Separatists of the world - unite! seems like a weird concept ... :unsure:
Lettow just came.
China is going to love this, by the way. :lol:
Edit: Ok, there is too much good stuff in this article. For example, I am sure Puerto Rico (named among one of the territories yearning to be free from the "ruling elite") is just dying to finally get rid of the USA and strike out on its own. :D
Russia: taking care of Western idiots since 1914. It's quite funny how blatant they are. :D
Ireland? Texas?
No Tibet, Chechnya, or East Turkestan?
Quote from: Queequeg on September 17, 2015, 02:39:04 AM
Ireland? Texas?
No Tibet, Chechnya, or East Turkestan?
or dagestan, chenchnya, Sibir and 3/4ths of Russia itself
Well, it looks like they didn't secure the attendance of any of the proper Catalan separatist parties (Catalan Solidarity are a non-entity with 1% of the vote in our last election and zero MPs, the whole separatist block got nearly 50%). Seems their craziness has limits afterall.
I did not know that Western Sahara separatists were separatists from Western Countries.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on September 17, 2015, 04:46:27 AM
I did not know that Western Sahara separatists were separatists from Western Countries.
It's even in the name, dummy: WESTERN Sahara. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2015, 04:50:05 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on September 17, 2015, 04:46:27 AM
I did not know that Western Sahara separatists were separatists from Western Countries.
It's even in the name, dummy: WESTERN Sahara. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2015, 05:13:14 AM
For Russian anti-globalization intitiatives: yes.
So Morocco is a western country now? :lol:
Ah, those Russians and their useful idiots. :P
Polisario used to claim Canaries, Madeira and the Azores (?!) they probably still do. The African Union still sees those territories as under European occupation. Good luck. :)
PS: edit for Syt
For Russian anti-globalization intitiatives: yes.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on September 17, 2015, 04:56:21 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2015, 04:50:05 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on September 17, 2015, 04:46:27 AM
I did not know that Western Sahara separatists were separatists from Western Countries.
It's even in the name, dummy: WESTERN Sahara. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2015, 05:13:14 AM
For Russian anti-globalization intitiatives: yes.
So Morocco is a western country now? :lol:
Ah, those Russians and their useful idiots. :P
Polisario used to claim Canaries, Madeira and the Azores (?!) they probably still do. The African Union still sees those territories as under European occupation. Good luck. :)
PS: edit for Syt
Morocco is in Western Africa. So yes.
Russia just continues to dream of the United States breaking up. Texas will become independent right after the Kingdom of Saxony is restored.
Anyway obviously an attempt to destabilize countries. Strange that Russia, which contains tons of these kinds of nationalist minorities, would be doing this.
Quote from: Valmy on September 17, 2015, 07:56:45 AM
Russia just continues to dream of the United States breaking up. Texas will become independent right after the Kingdom of Saxony is restored.
Anyway obviously an attempt to destabilize countries. Strange that Russia, which contains tons of these kinds of nationalist minorities, would be doing this.
Hey, I was assured that Oklahoma was on the brink of declaring independence by a certain well connected european eggplant.
The Texas Nationalist Movement: http://www.thetnm.org/
QuoteNo matter what our priorities, challenges, dreams or decisions are here in Texas, while we are part of the union, everything is ultimately dictated from or allowed by the bureaucrats in D.C. Independence means that Texans, and Texans alone decide our fate. Texans are tired of being governed by bureaucrats we didn't elect pushing policies that we don't want.
Sounds like a typical anti-EU rant over here. :D
Quote from: Martinus on September 17, 2015, 07:11:08 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on September 17, 2015, 04:56:21 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2015, 04:50:05 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on September 17, 2015, 04:46:27 AM
I did not know that Western Sahara separatists were separatists from Western Countries.
It's even in the name, dummy: WESTERN Sahara. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2015, 05:13:14 AM
For Russian anti-globalization intitiatives: yes.
So Morocco is a western country now? :lol:
Ah, those Russians and their useful idiots. :P
Polisario used to claim Canaries, Madeira and the Azores (?!) they probably still do. The African Union still sees those territories as under European occupation. Good luck. :)
PS: edit for Syt
Morocco is in Western Africa. So yes.
Nope, North Africa. West Africa is more like Senegal. Nice try, Martinus. :D
Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2015, 08:46:19 AM
The Texas Nationalist Movement: http://www.thetnm.org/
QuoteNo matter what our priorities, challenges, dreams or decisions are here in Texas, while we are part of the union, everything is ultimately dictated from or allowed by the bureaucrats in D.C. Independence means that Texans, and Texans alone decide our fate. Texans are tired of being governed by bureaucrats we didn't elect pushing policies that we don't want.
Sounds like a typical anti-EU rant over here. :D
And the exact same rant people would be making about bureaucrats in Austin in an independent Texas.
Quote from: Valmy on September 17, 2015, 08:52:40 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2015, 08:46:19 AM
The Texas Nationalist Movement: http://www.thetnm.org/
QuoteNo matter what our priorities, challenges, dreams or decisions are here in Texas, while we are part of the union, everything is ultimately dictated from or allowed by the bureaucrats in D.C. Independence means that Texans, and Texans alone decide our fate. Texans are tired of being governed by bureaucrats we didn't elect pushing policies that we don't want.
Sounds like a typical anti-EU rant over here. :D
And the exact same rant people would be making about bureaucrats in Austin in an independent Texas.
You think? :o
Valmy is an Austin insider, so he's out of touch with real Texans. :alberta:
Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2015, 02:16:06 AM
Separatists of the world - unite! seems like a weird concept ... :unsure:
reminds me of this:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvGQOGFu.jpg&hash=855337ebded5d6911ac3ad28730d7ccb6159402b)
But seriously, most occidental seperatis movement have informal ties (the word is too strong, more like observers, correspondants, etc.)
Quebec seperatists have corresponded with Catalans and Scots seperatists, exchanging ideas and strategies and such for years.
The Russians seem to think they can recreate some sort of widespread revolution though, kinda like the good old days when they were financing useful idiots in the West. Good luck with that. They may have moderate successes in a few places, but I can't see Puerto Rico and Texas developping a seperatist line of thought any day now. Texans are more likely to take over the US than pack& leave, it seems.
Quote from: viper37 on September 17, 2015, 11:39:22 PM
The Russians seem to think they can recreate some sort of widespread revolution though, kinda like the good old days when they were financing useful idiots in the West. Good luck with that. They may have moderate successes in a few places, but I can't see Puerto Rico and Texas developping a seperatist line of thought any day now. Texans are more likely to take over the US than pack& leave, it seems.
The Russians are nuts, so maybe they actually believe they can cause trouble this way. I'm more inclined to think it is simply a sort of offical fit of pique - "you guys support Ukraine, so we'll support these seperatists".
I can't imagine Texas types takling kindly to "support" from Moscow, no matter how much they hate Washington. :lol: