QuoteShots were fired on a Thalys high-speed train between Amsterdam and Paris on Friday and several people were injured, the French interior ministry said.
A man was arrested when the train stopped at Arras station in northern France but his motives were not yet known, a ministry spokesman said. Thalys said in a tweet that travellers were safe and the situation was under control.
"A man opened fire on this Thalys train between Amsterdam and Paris, one person was very seriously injured," ministry spokesman Pierre Henry Brandet said on BFM-TV television. "Talking about a terrorist motive would be premature at the moment," he said.
France has been on high security alert since Islamist militants killed 17 people in and around Paris in January.
Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve was en route to Arras in response to the train shooting, Brandet said.
No one at the SNCF French railways was immediately available to comment on the report.
Not confirmed as a terrorist attack, yet.
A French newspaper, http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/region/arras-coups-de-feu-dans-un-thalys-des-blesses-dont-ia0b0n3001636 (http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/region/arras-coups-de-feu-dans-un-thalys-des-blesses-dont-ia0b0n3001636), claims that two soldiers (British and American) successfully "tackled" the gunman when hearing heavy weapon loading noises in a WC.
QuoteD'après nos informations, deux militaires (un Américain et un Britannique) auraient entendu dans les toilettes le bruit de la culasse d'une arme lourde (sic) en train d'être chargée. Ils seraient intervenus pour maîtriser l'homme avant qu'il ne puisse utiliser l'arme dans la rame. Les deux militaires ont été blessés, l'un d'un coup de feu, l'autre à l'arme blanche, selon le procureur de la République.
The North African assailant reportedly used a Kalashnikov rifle to shoot at people before getting "tackled".
QuoteD'après nos informations recueillies sur place, l'homme d'origine nord-africaine aurait tiré à la kalachnikov avant d'être maîtrisé par des passagers d'origine américaine.
I don't think the gunman was doing some cosplay tribute to Sonny Chiba's Bullet Train http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080479 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080479)
Is the injured passenger alright?
Glad to see American and British soldiers are still beating up badguys in France.
Soon that will be respun and it will be French who did the beating up.
Two American soldiers took the shooter down. Thanks Obama!
Quote from: Caliga on August 21, 2015, 02:53:02 PM
Soon that will be respun and it will be French who did the beating up.
The French are slaves to truth! :angry:
Quote from: Maladict on August 21, 2015, 02:53:16 PM
Two American soldiers took the shooter down. Thanks Obama!
Both American? USA USA USA
Well, it's not very clear yet, initial reports etc., but the two soldiers are probably badly wounded, one by gunshot, the other by a bladed weapon. The other injured person appears to have only lightly wounded.
PS: not sure if it's two US soldiers or a British and an American. Article contradicts itself.
Shooter is Moroccan, he is known to the authorities. Apparently he carried nine magazines and some knives.
Fuck, when I lived in Brussels, I travelled on that train a couple of times.
The Thalys train is a high-speed train linking Paris to Brussels, Amsterdam or Cologne, so yes it's pretty famous and commonly used.
Cazeneuve, French Interior minister, now says it was two Americans who neutralised the Moroccan gunman.
He was overpowered by 2 US marines. :thumbsup:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206426/U-S-Marines-armed-gunman-onboard-high-speed-train-Amsterdam-Paris.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206426/U-S-Marines-armed-gunman-onboard-high-speed-train-Amsterdam-Paris.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus)
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Ooh-ra!
Quote from: Legbiter on August 21, 2015, 03:49:40 PM
He was overpowered by 2 US marines. :thumbsup:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206426/U-S-Marines-armed-gunman-onboard-high-speed-train-Amsterdam-Paris.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206426/U-S-Marines-armed-gunman-onboard-high-speed-train-Amsterdam-Paris.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus)
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Unfortunately one of the marines was shot and is in critical condition. :(
Quote from: Maladict on August 21, 2015, 03:07:13 PM
Apparently he carried nine magazines
That's a lot of reading material!
Quote from: Syt on August 21, 2015, 05:15:58 PM
Quote from: Maladict on August 21, 2015, 03:07:13 PM
Apparently he carried nine magazines
That's a lot of reading material!
In his defense he was in the bathroom for a long time.
Quote from: Barrister on August 21, 2015, 04:52:13 PM
Unfortunately one of the marines was shot and is in critical condition. :(
BBC says it's not life-threatening. :)
According to our press, the gunman had resided in Spain until 2014, and was registered as a radical by our police.
Quote from: Legbiter on August 21, 2015, 03:49:40 PM
He was overpowered by 2 US marines. :thumbsup:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206426/U-S-Marines-armed-gunman-onboard-high-speed-train-Amsterdam-Paris.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206426/U-S-Marines-armed-gunman-onboard-high-speed-train-Amsterdam-Paris.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus)
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America to the rescue again.
Quote from: Barrister on August 21, 2015, 04:52:13 PM
Unfortunately one of the marines was shot and is in critical condition. :(
Takes more than that to kill a US Marine son. He will be ok.
Quote from: garbon on August 21, 2015, 05:18:58 PM
Quote from: Syt on August 21, 2015, 05:15:58 PM
Quote from: Maladict on August 21, 2015, 03:07:13 PM
Apparently he carried nine magazines
That's a lot of reading material!
<_<
Actually I only now realised what they meant. When I read it I thought it is a weird detail to mention. :blush:
Quote from: celedhring on August 21, 2015, 06:24:45 PM
According to our press, the gunman had resided in Spain until 2014, and was registered as a radical by our police.
What was he radical about? A fanatical FC Barcelona supporter? A fanatical bull fighting opponent?
USA saves the day again!
Quote from: Martinus on August 22, 2015, 12:15:09 AM
Quote from: celedhring on August 21, 2015, 06:24:45 PM
According to our press, the gunman had resided in Spain until 2014, and was registered as a radical by our police.
What was he radical about? A fanatical FC Barcelona supporter? A fanatical bull fighting opponent?
Radical islamic activist.
Quote from: Legbiter on August 21, 2015, 03:49:40 PM
He was overpowered by 2 US marines. :thumbsup:
Bravo :showoff:
Quote from: celedhring on August 22, 2015, 02:35:06 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 22, 2015, 12:15:09 AM
Quote from: celedhring on August 21, 2015, 06:24:45 PM
According to our press, the gunman had resided in Spain until 2014, and was registered as a radical by our police.
What was he radical about? A fanatical FC Barcelona supporter? A fanatical bull fighting opponent?
Radical islamic activist.
Shock. Horror. Disbelief.
So it was 3 Americans and a Brit
QuoteFrance train shooting: Americans who overpowered gunman 'heroes'
Anthony Sadler from California, Alek Skarlatos from Oregon, and Chris Norman, a British man living in France, received medals for their bravery
Three American men are being hailed as heroes for overpowering a heavily-armed gunman on a train in northern France.
The incident happened on the high-speed Thalys service near Arras, and the attacker was arrested at Arras station.
One of the Americans said they took an AK-47 assault rifle and a handgun from the attacker as they saw him walk down the aisle of the train.
They then put him in a chokehold until he was unconscious. A 26-year-old Moroccan was later arrested.
Two of the American men who overpowered the gunman, Spencer Stone and Alek Skarlatos, are members of the Air Force and the National Guard respectively.
They were travelling with a childhood friend, Anthony Sadler, who also helped restrain the attacker.
"Spencer got to the guy first and grabbed the guy by the neck," Mr Skarlatos told Sky News.
Anthony Sadler's father Tony says he is "still wrapping his head around" events of the past 24 hours
"I grabbed the handgun, got that away from the guy and threw it. Then I grabbed the AK-47, which was at his feet, and started muzzle-bumping him in the head with it.
"Everybody just started beating the guy while Spencer held the chokehold until he went unconscious."
When he checked the AK-47, Mr Skarlotos said it had jammed and would not have been able to fire. The cartridge for the handgun had also been dropped, he said.
French authorities said three people were injured, two of them seriously - one with a gunshot wound, the other a knife wound.
Karen Skarlatos says they "seized that opportunity to rush" the 26-year-old Moroccan
Forensics experts check the crime scene, 21 Aug
Scene-of-crime experts were quickly summoned
Chris Norman, a British man living in France, was also hurt while trying to subdue the attacker.
"I came in at the end of it all and helped get him under control," he said at a news conference in Arras.
"The guy pulled out a cutter and started cutting Spencer - he cut behind his neck and nearly cut his thumb off."
Another man, who has not been identified, suffered severe cuts to his neck. Spencer Stone went to help him despite his own injuries. Mr Stone remains in hospital.
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France's interior minister Bernard Cazeneuve praised the action of American passengers who prevented what he called a "terrible drama"
"I'm really proud of my friend that he just reacted so quickly and so bravely," Anthony Sadler said.
"He was really the first one over there. Even after being injured himself, he went to go help the other man who was bleeding also. Without his help, he would have died.
"That man was bleeding from his neck profusely."
Social worker Christina Coons from New York was one of the 554 people on board. She told BBC Radio 5 Live she ducked under her seat when she heard shots.
She said: "None of these men were in uniform. They were just regular passengers, this afternoon, who stepped up to the plate as soon as they saw what was happening."
French actor Jean-Hugues Anglade cut his hand smashing the alarm glass
The passengers included French actor Jean-Hugues Anglade, the star of Betty Blue and Nikita, who was lightly wounded breaking glass to sound the alarm.
The American men and Mr Norman were awarded medals for bravery by authorities in Arras.
US President Barack Obama was among those to praise those who took action.
"The president expressed his profound gratitude for the courage and quick thinking of several passengers, including US service members, who selflessly subdued the attacker," the White House said in a statement.
"It is clear that their heroic actions may have prevented a far worse tragedy."
French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said the passengers were "particularly courageous and showed great bravery in very difficult circumstances", adding: "Without their composure we could have been confronted with a terrible incident."
Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel called the incident a "terrorist attack".
French media said the arrested man was known to the intelligence services but he has so far refused to talk to police in Arras.
Images shared on social media appeared to show him being restrained on the station platform in Arras.
France has been on edge since the attack on the Charlie Hebdo magazine and a Jewish supermarket in Paris in January, which left 17 people dead.
And in June a man said to be inspired by the Islamic State group beheaded his boss and tried to blow up a gas plant in southern France.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34023361 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34023361)
I like the way Cazeneuve tries to avoid using terrorism or terrorist when describing this attack or "incident", unlike the Belgian prime minister. :rolleyes:
Anglo nations pull through time and time again. :showoff:
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 22, 2015, 04:42:26 AM
I like the way Cazeneuve tries to avoid using terrorism or terrorist when describing this attack or "incident", unlike the Belgian prime minister. :rolleyes:
At most, this was a failed attempt at terrorism, no?
It's really bizarre to argue that only succesful terrorist attacks are terrorism. :huh:
I guess by that logic you are not an antisemite unless you get at least one Jew in a pogrom...
Asked for his gun back :lol:
Quote from: Jaron on August 22, 2015, 01:40:17 AM
USA saves the day again!
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:cool:
According to Le Figaro, when questioned, the shooter denies terrorist intent and instead states he was just planning a heist and found the weapons in a bag by chance in a park in Bruxelles.
Police is not convinced since he does not fit the petty criminal profile, no criminal record and no time served.
Quote• Le tireur affirme avoir voulu braquer le train
En garde à vue, le suspect a donné une version des faits pour le moins déroutante. Il nie avoir eu l'intention de commettre un attentat. Il explique avoir voulu braquer le train et rançonner les passagers. Interrogé sur la provenance de son arsenal, qui comprenait un pistolet automatique, une kalachnikov des munitions et un cutter, le tireur assure les avoir découverts par hasard dans un sac abandonné dans un parc de Bruxelles.
Un récit qui, en l'état des investigations, ne tient pas, souligne les sources policières. L'homme n'a jamais été emprisonné et n'a pas le profil d'un délinquant de droit commun.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2015/08/22/01016-20150822ARTFIG00063-thalys-le-tireur-affirme-avoir-voulu-braquer-le-train.php (http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2015/08/22/01016-20150822ARTFIG00063-thalys-le-tireur-affirme-avoir-voulu-braquer-le-train.php)
Guy also went to Syria, according to El Pais. Probably as a tourist, I guess.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 22, 2015, 08:08:54 AM
According to Le Figaro, when questioned, the shooter denies terrorist intent and instead states he was just planning a heist and found the weapons in a bag by chance in a park in Bruxelles.
Police is not convinced since he does not fit the petty criminal profile, no criminal record and no time served.
Quote• Le tireur affirme avoir voulu braquer le train
En garde à vue, le suspect a donné une version des faits pour le moins déroutante. Il nie avoir eu l'intention de commettre un attentat. Il explique avoir voulu braquer le train et rançonner les passagers. Interrogé sur la provenance de son arsenal, qui comprenait un pistolet automatique, une kalachnikov des munitions et un cutter, le tireur assure les avoir découverts par hasard dans un sac abandonné dans un parc de Bruxelles.
Un récit qui, en l'état des investigations, ne tient pas, souligne les sources policières. L'homme n'a jamais été emprisonné et n'a pas le profil d'un délinquant de droit commun.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2015/08/22/01016-20150822ARTFIG00063-thalys-le-tireur-affirme-avoir-voulu-braquer-le-train.php (http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2015/08/22/01016-20150822ARTFIG00063-thalys-le-tireur-affirme-avoir-voulu-braquer-le-train.php)
Guy also went to Syria, according to El Pais. Probably as a tourist, I guess.
Brussel has many things, but not weapons lying around by the bag load.
Why have Frenchmen never saved America from terrorist attack? :mad:
They gave us a nice statue. :)
Quote from: Phillip V on August 22, 2015, 11:13:14 AM
Why have Frenchmen never saved America from terrorist attack? :mad:
They did, between 1778 and 1782. They probably would have in 1812-1814 as well, but they were rather busy trying to keep the Russians out of Europe.
We weren't terrorists though. If anything, they were the terrorists.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 22, 2015, 08:08:54 AM
According to Le Figaro, when questioned, the shooter denies terrorist intent and instead states he was just planning a heist and found the weapons in a bag by chance in a park in Bruxelles.
Police is not convinced since he does not fit the petty criminal profile, no criminal record and no time served.
French police should look again, he does have a criminal record in Spain for drug trafficking. There's a search and capture order out for him, actually.
Quote from: PJL on August 22, 2015, 02:26:18 PM
We weren't terrorists though. If anything, they were the terrorists.
They weren't the terrorists. The others were.
Quote from: celedhring on August 22, 2015, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 22, 2015, 08:08:54 AM
According to Le Figaro, when questioned, the shooter denies terrorist intent and instead states he was just planning a heist and found the weapons in a bag by chance in a park in Bruxelles.
Police is not convinced since he does not fit the petty criminal profile, no criminal record and no time served.
French police should look again, he does have a criminal record in Spain for drug trafficking. There's a search and capture order out for him, actually.
It seems the police was under orders of the Interior minister to avoid looking at the file Spanish intelligence had about him...
PS: at least now he has been formally identified, that shoulp perhaps authorise them to have a look at his file.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 22, 2015, 08:08:54 AM
According to Le Figaro, when questioned, the shooter denies terrorist intent and instead states he was just planning a heist and found the weapons in a bag by chance in a park in Bruxelles.
Police is not convinced since he does not fit the petty criminal profile, no criminal record and no time served.
Quote• Le tireur affirme avoir voulu braquer le train
En garde à vue, le suspect a donné une version des faits pour le moins déroutante. Il nie avoir eu l'intention de commettre un attentat. Il explique avoir voulu braquer le train et rançonner les passagers. Interrogé sur la provenance de son arsenal, qui comprenait un pistolet automatique, une kalachnikov des munitions et un cutter, le tireur assure les avoir découverts par hasard dans un sac abandonné dans un parc de Bruxelles.
Un récit qui, en l'état des investigations, ne tient pas, souligne les sources policières. L'homme n'a jamais été emprisonné et n'a pas le profil d'un délinquant de droit commun.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2015/08/22/01016-20150822ARTFIG00063-thalys-le-tireur-affirme-avoir-voulu-braquer-le-train.php (http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2015/08/22/01016-20150822ARTFIG00063-thalys-le-tireur-affirme-avoir-voulu-braquer-le-train.php)
Guy also went to Syria, according to El Pais. Probably as a tourist, I guess.
I'm going to guess he'll need a better story then that.
I like how everyone assumed the two US dudes were Marines, and it turns out to be USAF and Army National Guard. :P
Legbiter, Barrister and Valmy = everyone? ;)
There are reports of a Frenchman who tried to "tackle" the gunman first, failed but this would have attracted the attention of the US servicemen.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 22, 2015, 07:56:47 PM
There are reports of a Frenchman who tried to "tackle" the gunman first, failed but this would have attracted the attention of the US servicemen.
So, the French guy got overpowered, ran away, and needed Americans and Brits to come to the rescue? Well, that just broke a nice meme we had going. :(
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 22, 2015, 07:56:47 PM
Legbiter, Barrister and Valmy = everyone? ;)
Meh. Last time I trust the Daily Fail.
Quote from: DGuller on August 22, 2015, 08:19:11 PM
So, the French guy got overpowered, ran away, and needed Americans and Brits to come to the rescue? Well, that just broke a nice meme we had going. :(
:angry: You made this up.
He didn't run away, he just retreated in an orderly manner.
He actually surrendered, then half felt like joining in with the attacker.
He advanced and attacked toward a different direction :bowler:
He was an American living in France, and he's the one that got the AK-47 away from the attacker. He got shot in the back of the neck while moving away from the guy.
Still all American heroes... oh, and the Brit. :)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/5th-paris-train-hero-id-french-american-professor-article-1.2335351 (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/5th-paris-train-hero-id-french-american-professor-article-1.2335351)
Quote from: merithyn on August 24, 2015, 09:51:03 AM
He was an American living in France, and he's the one that got the AK-47 away from the attacker. He got shot in the back of the neck while moving away from the guy.
Well I bet you guys feel like shit now for your shameless Valmy trolling. YOU MONSTERS.
You know, when you're receiving a nation's highest honour from the head of state, it's probably respectful to wear a suit and tie.
Americans :rolleyes:
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"How was the holiday in France? Funny you should ask ... " :)
Quote from: Brazen on August 24, 2015, 09:56:21 AM
You know, when you're receiving a nation's highest honour from the head of state, it's probably respectful to wear a suit and tie.
Americans :rolleyes:
Presumably those who were on vacation didn't pack suits just for the off side chance they would receive the Legion d'Honneur. :P
If one of them is the guy who lives in France, he is an asshole though. :P
Or he doesn't own one.
Anyway, I was going to ask whether perhaps the medal is not too high an honour, given that it is the highest order of the French Republic that a foreigner could get - but then I saw they gave it to Bono...
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 24, 2015, 10:53:58 AM
Or he doesn't own one.
A man of age who does not own a suit is not a gentleman.
I think I'd have bought, borrowed or hired one for the occasion. :hmm:
Quote from: Brazen on August 24, 2015, 11:00:12 AM
I think I'd have bought, borrowed or hired one for the occasion. :hmm:
:yes:
Quote from: Brazen on August 24, 2015, 11:00:12 AM
I think I'd have bought, borrowed or hired one for the occasion. :hmm:
I didn't think women normally wore ties.
And Good God, the French are a tiny people.
Quote from: Razgovory on August 24, 2015, 12:18:07 PM
And Good God, the French are a tiny people.
Look he was Corsican and he was not actually short for his time.
Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2015, 12:21:55 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 24, 2015, 12:18:07 PM
And Good God, the French are a tiny people.
Look he was Corsican and he was not actually short for his time.
Hollande?
Quote from: Razgovory on August 24, 2015, 12:24:00 PM
Hollande?
After Chirac there is a constitutional requirement that every new president must be shorter than 5'8".
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2015, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Brazen on August 24, 2015, 09:56:21 AM
You know, when you're receiving a nation's highest honour from the head of state, it's probably respectful to wear a suit and tie.
Americans :rolleyes:
Presumably those who were on vacation didn't pack suits just for the off side chance they would receive the Legion d'Honneur. :P
If one of them is the guy who lives in France, he is an asshole though. :P
The professor who lives in France - and got shot in the neck - is still in the hospital. He'll get his at a later date.
As for the suit comment... they're now French knights. I wanted suits of armor. :(
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2015, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Brazen on August 24, 2015, 09:56:21 AM
You know, when you're receiving a nation's highest honour from the head of state, it's probably respectful to wear a suit and tie.
Americans :rolleyes:
Presumably those who were on vacation didn't pack suits just for the off side chance they would receive the Legion d'Honneur. :P
If one of them is the guy who lives in France, he is an asshole though. :P
The Airman needs a shave, though. :mad: :P
QuoteAs for the suit comment... they're now French knights. I wanted suits of armor.
They should have at least dressed like the Chevalier de Saint-Georges
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Quote from: merithyn on August 24, 2015, 12:54:24 PM
As for the suit comment... they're now French knights. I wanted suits of armor. :(
The Legion of Honour doesn't convey a knighthood; the rank of Chevalier in the Legion is just that: a rank. It doesn't convey nobility like a British knighthood does. The Catholic and Orthodox churches have Chevaliers, as well.
I thought you had to get super-knighthood, a Baronetcy, in order to be considered nobility.
Quote from: Valmy on August 26, 2015, 09:11:02 AM
I thought you had to get super-knighthood, a Baronetcy, in order to be considered nobility.
How does a Republic go about creating nobles? :hmm:
Quote from: celedhring on August 26, 2015, 09:17:25 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 26, 2015, 09:11:02 AM
I thought you had to get super-knighthood, a Baronetcy, in order to be considered nobility.
How does a Republic go about creating nobles? :hmm:
I am talking about the UK.
Quote from: Valmy on August 26, 2015, 09:11:02 AM
I thought you had to get super-knighthood, a Baronetcy, in order to be considered nobility.
A baronetcy is hereditary, which a knighthood is not. Both are titles for nobles, as far as I know.
A knighthood is most certainly not in the peerage though. Maybe I just do not know the legal definition of noble in today's UK. Hopefully the head of the College of Arms will see this thread and set me straight.
Still thinking about getting my Sealand knighthood.
Quote from: celedhring on August 26, 2015, 09:17:25 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 26, 2015, 09:11:02 AM
I thought you had to get super-knighthood, a Baronetcy, in order to be considered nobility.
How does a Republic go about creating nobles? :hmm:
Any Poles on the forum? Don't know how many they created.
Quote from: The Brain on August 26, 2015, 10:32:18 AM
Quote from: celedhring on August 26, 2015, 09:17:25 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 26, 2015, 09:11:02 AM
I thought you had to get super-knighthood, a Baronetcy, in order to be considered nobility.
How does a Republic go about creating nobles? :hmm:
Any Poles on the forum? Don't know how many they created.
It required a vote by the Sejm.
Quote from: Martinus on August 26, 2015, 11:00:41 AM
It required a vote by the Sejm.
Always a dodgy proposition.
Quote from: Valmy on August 26, 2015, 09:27:52 AM
A knighthood is most certainly not in the peerage though. Maybe I just do not know the legal definition of noble in today's UK. Hopefully the head of the College of Arms will see this thread and set me straight.
Correct. Knights (and baronets) are not members of the peerage. Peers have land (at least in theory) that goes with the title.
The EU interior ministers have agreed to tighten controls of passengers and luggage on railway stations and to introduce tickets with the name of the traveler on important routes. Additionally, the exchange of information about "dangerous individuals" is to be improved.
Quote from: Syt on August 29, 2015, 02:56:02 PM
The EU interior ministers have agreed to tighten controls of passengers and luggage on railway stations and to introduce tickets with the name of the traveler on important routes. Additionally, the exchange of information about "dangerous individuals" is to be improved.
Did he have a motive for choosing an international train? I mean, wouldn't commuter trains have more targets if one was inclined to look at passengers that way.
A higher profile target? And terrorists love to kill tourists. Commuters are boring (unless he could get to America maybe).
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 30, 2015, 03:08:30 AM
A higher profile target? And terrorists love to kill tourists. Commuters are boring (unless he could get to America maybe).
Ahem, ahem, we beg to differ.
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Quote from: Syt on August 29, 2015, 02:56:02 PM
The EU interior ministers have agreed to tighten controls of passengers and luggage on railway stations and to introduce tickets with the name of the traveler on important routes. Additionally, the exchange of information about "dangerous individuals" is to be improved.
That sucks.
Maybe it's inevitable, but the uncontrolled nature of train travel in europe is a big part of what makes it tolerable.
Thanks Osama!
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/Spencer-Stone-Stabbed-France-Train-Hero-331252422.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_NYBrand
QuoteFrench Train Hero Spencer Stone Stabbed
France train attack hero Spencer Stone was stabbed Wednesday night in Sacramento, California, and is in stable condition Thursday, the U.S. Air Force confirmed to NBC News.
Stone, 25, was one of three Americans who helped thwart a terror attack aboard a high-speed train bound for Paris in August.
CBS News first reported that he had been "repeatedly stabbed" on Wednesday.
"He is alive and in stable condition at this time," an Air Force spokesperson said. "We do not have any information as to the events preceding the incident."
Although a motive was not immediately known, a Sacramento police department spokeswoman told NBC News that a preliminary investigation indicates that Stone was not targeted. Rather, he got involved in some sort of verbal argument that ended up on the street which escalated into a physical confrontation.
"It appears it was happenstance," the spokeswoman said.
Stone, 25, charged at Morocco-born Ayooub El-Khazaani after the heavily armed terror suspect opened fire. Stone, along with his two friends, Anthony Sadler, a senior at Sacramento University in California, and Oregon Army National Guardsman Alek Skarlatos, subdued the suspected gunman.
Stone was stabbed with a box cutter during a struggle with El-Khazaani and had surgery to reattach part of his hand.
"He seemed like he was willing to fight to the end — so were we," Stone said of El-Khazzani.
The three Americans were awarded France's highest honor by President Francois Hollande and were honored at the White House by President Barack Obama. Stone was awarded the prestigious Airman's Medal and a Purple Heart, and Army Specialist Skarlatos received the Army's Soldiers Medal.
The city of Sacramento threw a parade for the three hometown heroes.
A British businessman and a French-American also have been praised for their efforts to stop the gunman.
Skarlatos tweeted Thursday, "Everybody send prayers out to the stone family today."
What is it with this guy and getting stabbed?
When you're a sharpening Stone, the whole world looks like a knife...
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on October 08, 2015, 08:44:45 PM
When you're a sharpening Stone, the whole world looks like a knife...
:bleeding:
Quote from: Malthus on October 08, 2015, 01:04:00 PM
What is it with this guy and getting stabbed?
gypsy curse he got in europe
It's pretty clear to anyone with even half a brian that this was an assassination attempt by Mohammedians.
Quote from: Malthus on October 08, 2015, 01:04:00 PM
What is it with this guy and getting stabbed?
maybe his secret identity is Bmolsson
Quote from: Jaron on October 09, 2015, 02:01:57 AM
It's pretty clear to anyone with even half a brian that this was an assassination attempt by Mohammedians.
What happened to Brian's other half? You haven't been practicing "magic" again, have you?