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Title: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: jimmy olsen on July 30, 2015, 07:24:36 PM
Maybe they should have kept an eye on him that day, given that he's done this before? 

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/assailant-stabs-several-people-jerusalem-gay-pride-parade-wounding-6-n401221

QuoteAssailant Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade

by Reuters

JERUSALEM — An ultra-Orthodox Jewish man stabbed and wounded six participants, two of them seriously, in the annual Gay Pride parade in Jerusalem on Thursday, with police saying the suspect was jailed for a similar attack 10 years ago.

About 5,000 people celebrating the event were marching along an avenue when a man jumped into the crowd, apparently from a supermarket, and plunged a knife into some of the participants, witnesses said.

"We heard people screaming, everyone ran for cover, and there were bloodied people on the ground," Shai Aviyor, a witness interviewed on Israel's Channel 2, said.

It was the worst attack in years on the event in Jerusalem, a divided city where the religious population is more prominent than in other parts of Israel and highlighted the tension nationwide among disparate social groups.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called it "a despicable hate crime", and President Reuven Rivlin warned that social intolerance could spell disaster for Israel.

Police said they arrested the suspected perpetrator, an ultra-Orthodox man. Spokeswoman Luba Samri said he was the same assailant jailed for the stabbing of three marchers at a similar Jerusalem event in 2005. Israeli media said the suspect had been released from prison several weeks ago.


The parade has long been a focus of tension between Israel's predominantly secular majority and the ultra-Orthodox Jewish minority, who object to public displays of homosexuality.

Many devout Jews, Muslims and Christians criticize homosexuality as an abomination of their beliefs. Gay marriages performed inside Israel are not recognized by the authorities.

Police and medics said the attacker wounded six people. Two were taken to hospital in serious condition, including a young woman, said a doctor at Shaarei Tzedek Hospital, where the victims were being treated.

The march is held in the largely Jewish side of the divided city. Palestinians predominate in occupied East Jerusalem.

Oded Fried, the head of a leading gay rights group, said the attack would not deter the movement. A similar Gay Pride event on June 12 in the more gay friendly business hub of Tel Aviv passed off without incident.

"Our struggle for equality only intensifies in the face of such events," Fried said.

Netanyahu said Israel would prosecute those responsible to the full extent of the law, adding: "Freedom of individual choice is a basic value in Israel."

Rivlin, whose job as president is largely ceremonial, said: "We must not be deluded a lack of tolerance will lead us to disaster."
Title: Re: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: Syt on July 31, 2015, 02:19:02 AM
Also:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33729281

QuotePalestinian toddler killed in 'Jewish settler' arson attack

A Palestinian toddler has been burned to death in an arson attack by suspected Jewish settlers in a West Bank village, Israeli police say.

The 18-month-old boy was killed at the family home in Duma in the nighttime attack. His parents and four-year-old brother were injured.

The attackers apparently sprayed the word "revenge" in Hebrew on one of two homes which were firebombed.

Israel's prime minister called the attack "reprehensible and horrific".

"This is an act of terrorism in every respect. The State of Israel takes a strong line against terrorism regardless of the perpetrators," Benjamin Netanyahu said in a tweet.

Israeli newspaper Haaretz named the child who was killed as Ali Saad Daobasa. The paper said his father, Saad, mother, Reham, and brother, Ahmad, were taken to a hospital in Nablus.

In a statement, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said: "The preliminary investigation suggests that suspects entered the village in the early hours of the morning, set the homes ablaze and sprayed graffiti in Hebrew on the homes."

"IDF forces are currently operating in order to locate the suspects of this attack."

Police said the attack appeared to have nationalist motives.

The type of incident resembles what have become known as "price tag" attacks - acts of vandalism or arson by Jewish extremists as a form of revenge for actions or attacks against Jewish settlements or unauthorised outposts in the West Bank.

About 500,000 Jews live in more than 100 settlements built since Israel's 1967 occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The settlements are considered illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.
Title: Re: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: Martinus on July 31, 2015, 02:28:57 AM
Quote"The preliminary investigation suggests that suspects entered the village in the early hours of the morning, set the homes ablaze and sprayed graffiti in Hebrew on the homes."

At least the graffitis were not in Latin...
Title: Re: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: Martinus on July 31, 2015, 02:32:10 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 30, 2015, 07:24:36 PM
Maybe they should have kept an eye on him that day, given that he's done this before? 

Well, let's see how the legal system of Israel responds this time. In a normal country, after a repeated stunt like this (which is, for all purposes, an attempted murder), he should never get out of jail.
Title: Re: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: Martinus on July 31, 2015, 02:34:18 AM
QuoteRivlin, whose job as president is largely ceremonial, said: "We must not be deluded a lack of tolerance will lead us to disaster."

This quote seems like it is in a bad need of a colon (no pun intended) or at least a comma.
Title: Re: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: Martinus on July 31, 2015, 03:29:30 AM
Not sure if I am impressed or dismayed the assailant was not lynched, given that he was subdued by the pride parade participants themselves.

Makes you wonder why he had no restraining order preventing him from appearing within a mile from a pride parade.
Title: Re: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 31, 2015, 04:17:56 AM
Because he'd done his time and was presumably a reformed citizen? Besides, a restraining order would have accomplished bupkis.
Title: Re: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: Duque de Bragança on July 31, 2015, 05:36:34 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 31, 2015, 02:28:57 AM
Quote"The preliminary investigation suggests that suspects entered the village in the early hours of the morning, set the homes ablaze and sprayed graffiti in Hebrew on the homes."

At least the graffiti were not in Latin...

Thankfully, since they suck at Latin anyways. PALESTINES EVNT DOMVS :yuk:
Title: Re: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: Siege on July 31, 2015, 01:42:42 PM
Lies lies lies.
Title: Re: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on August 02, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
One of the victims has died. 16 years old.  :(

Title: Re: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: Brezel on August 03, 2015, 01:56:31 AM
Shouldn't a proper ultra-orthodox jew welcome the public gay parades as a part of God's plan for the destruction of the heretic state of Israel or something?
Title: Re: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: Martinus on August 03, 2015, 11:28:20 AM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on August 02, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
One of the victims has died. 16 years old.  :(
:(

Does Israel have DP?
Title: Re: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: Malicious Intent on August 03, 2015, 11:44:38 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 03, 2015, 11:28:20 AM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on August 02, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
One of the victims has died. 16 years old.  :(
:(

Does Israel have DP?

Nope, they abolished it. IIRC Eichmann was the person last to be executed.
Title: Re: Ultra-Orthodox Man Stabs Six People at Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade
Post by: Razgovory on August 03, 2015, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 31, 2015, 02:32:10 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 30, 2015, 07:24:36 PM
Maybe they should have kept an eye on him that day, given that he's done this before? 

Well, let's see how the legal system of Israel responds this time. In a normal country, after a repeated stunt like this (which is, for all purposes, an attempted murder), he should never get out of jail.

In a normal country like Germany or France he'd get maybe two years.