https://www.kingdomcomerpg.com/game/overview
Looks... amazing. Crowdfunded, but still in alpha. I pledged a few dollars.
Edited for spelling mistake in title, will punish self accordingly. <--- :nelson:
I backed it when it first started, recently paid some more to advance to a higher level. It does look like it will be good.
I'll back it if it isn't purely first person. I haven't seen any indication that it isn't, though.
I'm wary of Early Access and Kickstarters these days. I will follow projects that interest me, but in general I will gladly wait until the full release date.
I'm waiting to download until the project reaches beta (or not). I'll give a verdict by then.
Looks amazing
I like everything about it except that the combat system is going to be like a first person shooter. That is pretty much a deal breaker for me.
Isn't skyrim from that perspective? I know it has third person too. I only played Olblivion, Skyrim, FO3, New Vegas in first person. I thought the third person perspective was stupid.
I don't mind having a first person perspective. Having fps combat controls is something I don't like.
Ah
Seems like Kunta Hora, the mining town is going to be the main area to be explored in the 2nd game. That's awesome, I visited there once and it was amazing.
https://www.ign.com/articles/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-xbox-ps5-pc-warhorse-studios
Did you beat the first one, Tim? I own it and was very excited to play it when it first came out, but around 10 hours in I found myself bored out of my mind and moved on.
Quote from: Caliga on April 19, 2024, 08:57:02 AMDid you beat the first one, Tim? I own it and was very excited to play it when it first came out, but around 10 hours in I found myself bored out of my mind and moved on.
My computer couldn't play it so I just watched Let's plays on youtube. I enjoyed the story. :D
Trailer for #2
The new Kingdom Come Deliverance II is going to cause so many housefires that I will be kept busy reporting them for months.
Me: What caused the fire?
Fire brigade and police: Computers just caught fire. Haven't seen this much of it since people tried playing Oblivion on older computers.
Me: Would you say this game is a death-trap?
Police officer muttering: Most definitely.
I see the incels have all arrived to discuss the shame of woke society in...eurogamers article about this. :wacko:
Quote from: garbon on December 06, 2024, 01:56:34 PMI see the incels have all arrived to discuss the shame of woke society in...eurogamers article about this. :wacko:
it's not like the gameing-press has much credibility either though with al their 9/10 for everything.
Considering they routinely get death threats the moment they dare suggesting some franchise or other deserve less than 10... Fandom really is ruining everything.
Quote from: garbon on December 06, 2024, 01:56:34 PMI see the incels have all arrived to discuss the shame of woke society in...eurogamers article about this. :wacko:
For some bizarre reason this one moderately successful game has always been some kind of culture war lightning rod.
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on December 06, 2024, 05:34:34 PMQuote from: garbon on December 06, 2024, 01:56:34 PMI see the incels have all arrived to discuss the shame of woke society in...eurogamers article about this. :wacko:
it's not like the gameing-press has much credibility either though with al their 9/10 for everything.
Yeah but they have been doing that for decades. Hell for a larger period of time the supposed gaming press was just propaganda arms for publishers in a very literal sense as they were the same entities.
Wasn't the first game a bit of a champion of the "anti-woke" camp? What's with it juvenile idealised depiction of the middle ages, all those "eyes opened" folks loved it for being "realistic".
Also the lead developer was associated with Gamergate and ranted about SJWs.
Quote from: Solmyr on December 09, 2024, 04:42:44 AMAlso the lead developer was associated with Gamergate and ranted about SJWs.
That's why I stayed away.
Quote from: Tamas on December 09, 2024, 03:43:57 AMWasn't the first game a bit of a champion of the "anti-woke" camp? What's with it juvenile idealised depiction of the middle ages, all those "eyes opened" folks loved it for being "realistic".
Something like that? But yet it had a female campaign and included the steppe nomads who fought with the Hungarians. So not exactly white washed or anything.
Quote from: Solmyr on December 09, 2024, 04:42:44 AMAlso the lead developer was associated with Gamergate and ranted about SJWs.
Ah ok. I didn't know that.
That explains why it is such a lightning rod.
Quote from: Solmyr on December 09, 2024, 04:42:44 AMAlso the lead developer was associated with Gamergate and ranted about SJWs.
Really? I never knew this. And sort of regret spending on their Kickstarter.
Quote from: Norgy on December 10, 2024, 07:23:08 AMQuote from: Solmyr on December 09, 2024, 04:42:44 AMAlso the lead developer was associated with Gamergate and ranted about SJWs.
Really? I never knew this. And sort of regret spending on their Kickstarter.
Looks like it
https://www.reddit.com/r/VideoGameAnalysis/comments/1f30wya/gamer_gate_and_kingdom_come_deliverance/?rdt=44131
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/7ra840/thoughts_on_kingdom_come_deliverance/
https://www.resetera.com/threads/separating-games-from-their-creators-kingdom-come-deliverance.17250/
https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-i-in-good-conscience-support-kingdom-come-deliverance.21364/
https://kotaku.com/my-e3-meeting-with-a-pro-gamergate-developer-1715511964
https://heavy.com/games/2018/02/art-vs-artist-kingdom-come-controversy-explored/
Oof, also wasn't aware of it.
I don't recall exactly what I knew but I was generally aware as I recall thinking I'd never buy this game giving statements from its creator.
Some have moral backbone, some go to Gdansk and get shitfaced and sleep with all and everything. Like Walt Whitman probably did not say, we contain multitudes.
The production of games these days seem to be more like authoritarian leaders whipping the sweatshop into fashion than the fun it seemed to be back when I first started playing computer games and ordered them by letter from the UK.
I've read articles about how Bethesda treat people, I've met and talked to people who were just suddenly made redundant at software companies.
This is the price you pay for not unionising, tech people! :ph34r:
So apparently it's the reverse this time around. Second game apparently includes a gay sex scene and possibly some non-white characters, and people are whining about woke and DEI. And Vavra is telling them to fuck off. :lol:
See: https://x.com/DanielVavra/status/1879544434041458704
The last game had non-white characters :lol: One of the things I really liked about the first game was the inclusion of the Cumans.
Oh well.
That's an amazing thread given that the sturm and angst is driven by an anonymous Saudi poster claiming that a game whose release hasn't even been announced was banned by Saudi.
I didn't have a problem with the fact the KC:D didn't include certain races and depicted gender relations in traditional ways because that was in accord with the vision of the development team in giving a particular sense of the historical time and place. I don't think it would have been horribly immersion breaking to do it another way, but I respect their right to follow their own vision on that. Obviously, there is ample evidence of gay relationships in medieval Europe such that its inclusion in KC:D2 follows logically and even inevitably from the developers long-stated conception of the game. The hysterical reaction from the anti-woke brigade exposes their supposed adherence to historical fidelity as cover for bigotry.
I had intended to wait this game out until the deep discounts kicked in 2 years down the line but now I am sorely tempted to preorder. :)
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 17, 2025, 11:52:05 AMI didn't have a problem with the fact the KC:D didn't include certain races and depicted gender relations in traditional ways because that was in accord with the vision of the development team in giving a particular sense of the historical time and place. I don't think it would have been horribly immersion breaking to do it another way, but I respect their right to follow their own vision on that. Obviously, there is ample evidence of gay relationships in medieval Europe such that its inclusion in KC:D2 follows logically and even inevitably from the developers long-stated conception of the game. The hysterical reaction from the anti-woke brigade exposes their supposed adherence to historical fidelity as cover for bigotry.
I had intended to wait this game out until the deep discounts kicked in 2 years down the line but now I am sorely tempted to preorder. :)
I think my issue was how they presented their vision as
the historical depiction with their first release.
Yeah no black Czechs is one thing but the whole depiction was such an idealised version of the middle ages that it felt very juvenile
Listened to "The history of Byzantium" podcast going over the sack of Constantinople.
Apparently a "Nubian" christian was present in the city, on some kind of pilgrimage. The Latins were mighty surprised at his appearance and it was deemed strange enough to be noted in some chronicles at the time.
So, in the early 1200s at least it was probably quite rare with visitors from the southern parts of Africa in the European Mediterranean world.
Quote from: Threviel on January 27, 2025, 04:33:08 AMListened to "The history of Byzantium" podcast going over the sack of Constantinople.
Apparently a "Nubian" christian was present in the city, on some kind of pilgrimage. The Latins were mighty surprised at his appearance and it was deemed strange enough to be noted in some chronicles at the time.
So, in the early 1200s at least it was probably quite rare with visitors from the southern parts of Africa in the European Mediterranean world.
I'm not sure that's the evidence you think it is. The one research article I quickly found said "the visit should be seen as a representation of the historic ties between Nubia and the Mediterranean."
It also noted that it appears only one knight alluded to the episode.
Yeah, and if he was on a pilgrimage then he would have passed by Jerusalem. Ethiopians (or whatever he was) would presumably be present in some number in Outremer, so it shouldn't be that rare for crusaders to see them.
I just listened to this in the car going to work today, thought it was tangentially relevant for this thread. Not trying to make some point here.
I don't think it's that controversial to claim that as a rule there was no Black population in Central Europe in the 1200s.
I've lost all my woke credentials and bought the game.
And it is: Very Good.
Hard, but good. Quests are reminiscent of Morrowind in their complexity. I've found that being able to make Saviour Schnapps is vital, although a cautious player will spend quite a bit of time drunk in-game.
Finally some use for real-life experience.
I've sunk more than 60 hours into KCD2, and I am still not finished. Thievery is probably a good skill to learn, and I have not, so a locked chest is more of a challenge than three armed bandits. :blush:
I'm pretty sure there is already a mod to eliminate the need for the schnapps. It's the way I played the first game and it's the only way I'll play this one. :P
The update released today will add modding support and "other stuff".
Quote from: Norgy on March 08, 2025, 01:46:49 AMI've lost all my woke credentials and bought the game.
I thought the sequel was supposed to be the woke one. :D
It is. I think. :unsure:
You can do gay stuff I think.
In the game I mean. Norgy can obviously do all the gay stuff he wants outside of the game.
It is called "freedom", you should try it in America. :hug: