Don't mess with Texas!
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20150503-gunmen-open-fire-outside-muhammad-art-exhibit-at-garland-isd-facility-police-say.ece
QuoteTwo gunmen opened fire Sunday evening outside a contest for cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad at Garland ISD's Curtis Culwell Center, police said.
The two men pulled up in a vehicle and shot a Garland ISD security officer. The men were fatally shot by Garland police, and their bodies remain on the street outside the events center.
The security officer, Bruce Joiner, was released from the hospital after his wounds were treated.
No one was being allowed to leave the facility, where an art show centering on caricatures of Muhammad was being held. Nearby businesses, including a Walmart and Sam's Club, were evacuated.
Authorities extended a perimeter 2,000 feet around the Culwell Center, and they were investigating a car within that zone. Garland police were waiting for a bomb squad to examine the vehicle.
Reports of the incident began to develop shortly before 7 p.m., when the event had been scheduled to conclude. A speaker had finished his presentation shortly after 6:30 p.m. Throughout the event, there had been no notable protests, despite its controversial nature.
Opponents had said the American Freedom Defense Initiative's Muhammad Art Exhibit and Contest on Sunday would be an attack on Islam. But its organizers said they were simply exercising their right of expression.
The New York-based American Freedom Defense Initiative was hosting a contest that would award $10,000 for the best cartoon depicting the Prophet Muhammad at the venue. Caricatures of the Islamic prophet are considered offensive by many Muslims.
The American Freedom Defense Initiative paid an additional $10,000 upfront for 40 officers to work security at the event. The group's president, Pamela Gellar, called it "the high cost of freedom."
The event was the center of controversy since Garland ISD agreed to rent out the Culwell Center. The decision to book the event came a little more than a week after Islamic militants in France killed 12 people at satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.
The organizers said they were exercising their freedom of expression. The district's decision drew criticism from critics and Islamic groups who said the event was an attack on Islam.
School Board President Rick Lambert rebuffed the criticism of the district, saying "the Culwell Center is available for rental as long as you comply with the law."
Garland had dueling protests during a "Stand With the Prophet in Honor and Respect" in January. Some protesters called for peace and understanding, while the other group argued that Muslims' beliefs posed a threat to the American way of life.
Security had to be boosted then, too, but Gellar said it was more than was needed.
Muslims?
Geert Wilders was there, too. :ph34r:
If this had been in Europe, 2000 people would have died.
Quote from: The Brain on May 03, 2015, 10:52:23 PM
Muslims?
Let's not jump to conclusions. Could be any other religion.
Besides, Valmy will be here any minute now to tell us this can't be Muslims, as only in Europe they commit acts of violence.
Oh right sorry.
Um this cannot be Muslims since only in Europe do they commit acts of violence.
I saw the video where they left their bodies in the road while the bomb robot did its work.
I HAVE A MURDER BONER
This kinda makes me feel the second amendment is not such a bad idea. In Europe only the Muslim gunmen are armed in situations like this.
Good thing jihadis still seem to have shitty aim.
Security looked pretty tight.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlZuXgF2.jpg&hash=a973572d11da752699dcab99073b3bc9486cc303)
Also, short :mellow:
Quote from: Liep on May 04, 2015, 08:54:11 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 04, 2015, 08:51:30 AM
Also, short :mellow:
Well, he's Dutch.
I think he's pretty tall even for a Dutchman. Especially a part-Indonesian one.
What's up with the Dutch being so tall? :hmm:
Now that I think about it, my great-great grandfather was just shy of 6' tall and he was born in 1868. He was also 50% Dutch-American. :)
It's a genetic adaptation to living five feet below sea level.
I think on NPR I heard about a recent study on the Dutch being tall and that the only explanation was natural selection with some cultural stuff thrown in. And apparently the Dutch were comparatively short a couple centuries ago.
Quote from: derspiess on May 04, 2015, 12:35:15 PM
I think on NPR I heard about a recent study on the Dutch being tall and that the only explanation was natural selection with some cultural stuff thrown in. And apparently the Dutch were comparatively short a couple centuries ago.
Totally missing out on the Industrial Revolution is not super great for a nation's wealth and/or agricultural productivity. The Dutch could be naturally huge, but I wouldn't be surprised of nearby people-say the Belgians-were taller for a chunk of the 19th Century just because the Netherlands were kind of a mess.
Quote from: Queequeg on May 04, 2015, 03:46:20 PM
Totally missing out on the Industrial Revolution is not super great for a nation's wealth and/or agricultural productivity. The Dutch could be naturally huge, but I wouldn't be surprised of nearby people-say the Belgians-were taller for a chunk of the 19th Century just because the Netherlands were kind of a mess.
I'm not completely sure what you are trying to argue here (apparently you think that someone was "totally missing out on the Industrial Revolution" and was either tall or short because of that). The IR did tend to make city-dwellers shorter for a generation or three, but that wouldn't apply to agricultural workers or town dwellers. Those made up a huge chunk of the population of the Netherlands.
Quote from: Queequeg on May 04, 2015, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 04, 2015, 12:35:15 PM
I think on NPR I heard about a recent study on the Dutch being tall and that the only explanation was natural selection with some cultural stuff thrown in. And apparently the Dutch were comparatively short a couple centuries ago.
Totally missing out on the Industrial Revolution is not super great for a nation's wealth and/or agricultural productivity. The Dutch could be naturally huge, but I wouldn't be surprised of nearby people-say the Belgians-were taller for a chunk of the 19th Century just because the Netherlands were kind of a mess.
Neither Belgium, nor the Netherlands missed out on the Industrial Revolution.
Quote from: grumbler on May 04, 2015, 04:21:25 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 04, 2015, 03:46:20 PM
Totally missing out on the Industrial Revolution is not super great for a nation's wealth and/or agricultural productivity. The Dutch could be naturally huge, but I wouldn't be surprised of nearby people-say the Belgians-were taller for a chunk of the 19th Century just because the Netherlands were kind of a mess.
I'm not completely sure what you are trying to argue here (apparently you think that someone was "totally missing out on the Industrial Revolution" and was either tall or short because of that). The IR did tend to make city-dwellers shorter for a generation or three, but that wouldn't apply to agricultural workers or town dwellers. Those made up a huge chunk of the population of the Netherlands.
I argued the opposite.
The Netherlands were backwards for much of the 19th Century.
Quote from: Queequeg on May 04, 2015, 10:42:13 PM
Quote from: grumbler on May 04, 2015, 04:21:25 PM
I'm not completely sure what you are trying to argue here (apparently you think that someone was "totally missing out on the Industrial Revolution" and was either tall or short because of that). The IR did tend to make city-dwellers shorter for a generation or three, but that wouldn't apply to agricultural workers or town dwellers. Those made up a huge chunk of the population of the Netherlands.
I argued the opposite.
The Netherlands were backwards for much of the 19th Century.
:lmfao: Well-played. I note that it isn't at all clear what you are arguing, and you say that you "argue the opposite." So long as no one thinks you are being serious with this "Netherlands were backwards" nonsense, it's all good, though. Real GDP per capita quadrupled in the 19th century in the Netherlands. The Netherlands wasn't at British levels of industrialization (no one was in the 19th C) but its GDP was growing faster than anyone but the UK's. Angus Maddison has the Netherlands PCGDP the highest in Europe in 1820; in 1870 it has fallen behind that of the UK, but is still 50% higher than France's or Germany's.
If that is "backwards" then backwards is very desirable.
:blush:
So did we find out if the gunmen were Muslim or not?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 05, 2015, 11:50:22 AM
So did we find out if the gunmen were Muslim or not?
I think so, one of them for sure.
IS has claimed responsibility, but it hasn't been confirmed by US authorities.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 05, 2015, 11:50:22 AM
So did we find out if the gunmen were Muslim or not?
I don't think any of the security was, and they had guns.
Military bases in the US have been put on FORCE PROTECTION STATUS BRAVO.
Normal is the lowest, delta is the highest.
I wonder where viking went. He normal does cartwheels when something like this happens.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 08, 2015, 12:07:11 PM
Military bases in the US have been put on FORCE PROTECTION STATUS BRAVO.
Normal is the lowest, delta is the highest.
CNN has officially wet its pants
Quote from: Razgovory on May 08, 2015, 12:19:50 PM
I wonder where viking went. He normal does cartwheels when something like this happens.
He's having a tea party with Seedy.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 08, 2015, 12:07:11 PM
Military bases in the US have been put on FORCE PROTECTION STATUS BRAVO.
Normal is the lowest, delta is the highest.
Bravo status confirmed.
Bravo is a 4 hour recall.
This means 4 hours from getting the call to assuming assigned posts.
Therefore military police is confident in dealing with the expected threat level for 4 hours until infantry dudes can get in place.
Normal status is Alpha, a 8 hour recall.
Any idea why we are on Bravo?
We didn't get any explanations from Division.
It cannot be related to the cartoons. That was 3 days ago....
Quote from: Siege on May 08, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
Any idea why we are on Bravo?
We didn't get any explanations from Division.
It cannot be related to the cartoons. That was 3 days ago....
Large increase in chatter and a belief there are hundreds of ISIS sympathizers wanting to try some shit.
Quote from: Siege on May 08, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
Any idea why we are on Bravo?
We didn't get any explanations from Division.
It cannot be related to the cartoons. That was 3 days ago....
Tired of waiting 8 hours till you drag your drunk ass in?
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 08, 2015, 06:57:57 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 08, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
Any idea why we are on Bravo?
We didn't get any explanations from Division.
It cannot be related to the cartoons. That was 3 days ago....
Large increase in chatter and a belief there are hundreds of ISIS sympathizers wanting to try some shit.
Yeah, they're a few weeks late from that news hitting the street to action, but that's about normal.
Quote from: Siege on May 08, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
Any idea why we are on Bravo?
We didn't get any explanations from Division.
It cannot be related to the cartoons. That was 3 days ago....
SHould we be thinking about fallout shelters?
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 08, 2015, 08:36:21 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 08, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
Any idea why we are on Bravo?
We didn't get any explanations from Division.
It cannot be related to the cartoons. That was 3 days ago....
SHould we be thinking about fallout shelters?
Head for the Vaults.
I always wear my gun in my pajamas anyway.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 08, 2015, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 08, 2015, 08:36:21 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 08, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
Any idea why we are on Bravo?
We didn't get any explanations from Division.
It cannot be related to the cartoons. That was 3 days ago....
SHould we be thinking about fallout shelters?
Head for the Vaults.
My ticket says "vats". :(
Quote from: Razgovory on May 08, 2015, 09:27:08 PM
My ticket says "vats". :(
You will serve the people well. :)
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 08, 2015, 08:36:21 PM
SHould we be thinking about fallout shelters?
You should be looking for exit lines if you see a couple wound up ragheads carrying bags in a crowded public space.
Quote from: Siege on May 08, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
Any idea why we are on Bravo?
We didn't get any explanations from Division.
It cannot be related to the cartoons. That was 3 days ago....
Yes and you're not LE.
Because you don't have a need to know apparently.
It's called Google you knobs.
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/05/08/force-protection-bravo/26977641/
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/military-raises-security-status-us-bases-isis-threat/story?id=30902427
Made the news today.
http://m.kirotv.com/news/news/whidbey-island-navy-base-steps-security/nmCdf/
I'm the on scene commander in the LAPD blue uniform standing next to the two navy guys in blue digital uniforms. Shut down hwy 304 for a couple of hours.
Quote from: 11B4V on May 09, 2015, 12:58:06 AM
It's called Google you knobs.
What are you being such a hardass for?
Quote from: 11B4V on May 09, 2015, 12:49:06 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 08, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
Any idea why we are on Bravo?
We didn't get any explanations from Division.
Yes and you're not LE.
Yeah, Siegy is more likely NE, or maybe even CE when he's drunk.