QuoteNeo-Nazis are in the Army now
Why the U.S. military is ignoring its own regulations and permitting white supremacists to join its ranks.
Editor's note: Research support for this article was provided by the Nation Institute's Investigative Fund.
By Matt Kennard
June 15, 2009 | On a muggy Florida evening in 2008, I meet Iraq War veteran Forrest Fogarty in the Winghouse, a little bar-restaurant on the outskirts of Tampa, his favorite hangout. He told me on the phone I would recognize him by his skinhead. Sure enough, when I spot a white guy at a table by the door with a shaved head, white tank top and bulging muscles, I know it can only be him.
Over a plate of chicken wings, he tells me about his path into the white-power movement. "I was 14 when I decided I wanted to be a Nazi," he says. At his first high school, near Los Angeles, he was bullied by black and Latino kids. That's when he first heard Skrewdriver, a band he calls "the godfather of the white power movement." "I became obsessed," he says. He had an image from one of Skrewdriver's album covers — a Viking carrying a staff, an icon among white nationalists — tattooed on his left forearm. Soon after he had a Celtic cross, an Irish symbol appropriated by neo-Nazis, emblazoned on his stomach.
At 15, Fogarty moved with his dad to Tampa, where he started picking fights with groups of black kids at his new high school. "On the first day, this bunch of niggers, they thought I was a racist, so they asked, 'Are you in the KKK?'" he tells me. "I said, 'Yeah,' and it was on." Soon enough, he was expelled.
For the next six years, Fogarty flitted from landscaping job to construction job, neither of which he'd ever wanted to do. "I was just drinking and fighting," he says. He started his own Nazi rock group, Attack, and made friends in the National Alliance, at the time the biggest neo-Nazi group in the country. It has called for a "a long-term eugenics program involving at least the entire populations of Europe and America."
But the military ran in Fogarty's family. His grandfather had served during World War II, Korea and Vietnam, and his dad had been a Marine in Vietnam. At 22, Fogarty resolved to follow in their footsteps. "I wanted to serve my country," he says.
Army regulations prohibit soldiers from participating in racist groups, and recruiters are instructed to keep an eye out for suspicious tattoos. Before signing on the dotted line, enlistees are required to explain any tattoos. At a Tampa recruitment office, though, Fogarty sailed right through the signup process. "They just told me to write an explanation of each tattoo, and I made up some stuff, and that was that," he says. Soon he was posted to Fort Stewart in Georgia, where he became part of the 3rd Infantry Division.
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Fogarty's ex-girlfriend, intent on destroying his new military career, sent a dossier of photographs to Fort Stewart. The photos showed Fogarty attending white supremacist rallies and performing with his band, Attack. "They hauled me before some sort of committee and showed me the pictures," Fogarty says. "I just denied them and said my girlfriend was a spiteful bitch." He adds: "They knew what I was about. But they let it go because I'm a great soldier."
In 2003, Fogarty was sent to Iraq. For two years he served in the military police, escorting officers, including generals, around the hostile country. He says he was granted top-secret clearance and access to battle plans. Fogarty speaks with regret that he "never had any kill counts." But he says his time in Iraq increased his racist resolve.
"I hate Arabs more than anybody, for the simple fact I've served over there and seen how they live," he tells me. "They're just a backward people. Them and the Jews are just disgusting people as far as I'm concerned. Their customs, everything to do with the Middle East, is just repugnant to me."
Because of his tattoos and his racist comments, most of his buddies and his commanding officers were aware of his Nazism. "They all knew in my unit," he says. "They would always kid around and say, 'Hey, you're that skinhead!'" But no one sounded an alarm to higher-ups. "I would volunteer for all the hardest missions, and they were like, 'Let Fogarty go.' They didn't want to get rid of me."
Fogarty left the Army in 2005 with an honorable discharge. He says he was asked to reenlist. He declined. He was sick of the system.
Since the launch of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the U.S. military has struggled to recruit and reenlist troops. As the conflicts have dragged on, the military has loosened regulations, issuing "moral waivers" in many cases, allowing even those with criminal records to join up. Veterans suffering post-traumatic stress disorder have been ordered back to the Middle East for second and third tours of duty.
The lax regulations have also opened the military's doors to neo-Nazis, white supremacists and gang members — with drastic consequences. Some neo-Nazis have been charged with crimes inside the military, and others have been linked to recruitment efforts for the white right. A recent Department of Homeland Security report, "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment," stated: "The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today." Many white supremacists join the Army to secure training for, as they see it, a future domestic race war. Others claim to be shooting Iraqis not to pursue the military's strategic goals but because killing "hajjis" is their duty as white militants.
Soldiers' associations with extremist groups, and their racist actions, contravene a host of military statutes instituted in the past three decades. But during the "war on terror," U.S. armed forces have turned a blind eye on their own regulations. A 2005 Department of Defense report states, "Effectively, the military has a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy pertaining to extremism. If individuals can perform satisfactorily, without making their extremist opinions overt ... they are likely to be able to complete their contracts."
Carter F. Smith is a former military investigator who worked with the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command from 2004 to 2006, when he helped to root out gang violence in troops. "When you need more soldiers, you lower the standards, whether you say so or not," he says. "The increase in gangs and extremists is an indicator of this." Military investigators may be concerned about white supremacists, he says. "But they have a war to fight, and they don't have incentive to slow down."
Tom Metzger is the former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and current leader of the White Aryan Resistance. He tells me the military has never been more tolerant of racial extremists. "Now they are letting everybody in," he says.
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Phew. Good thing the guy didn't have a boyfriend. Then he would be out before he could say "Kill the niggers".
Is posting feel-good stories your new "thing", marty? I was having a bit of a bad morning but this put a smile on my face. Thanks. :hug:
Over here that is pretty common. Popular perception is military service is only for right wing extremists or people who can't get any other job.
Aren't armies designed for scum like that?
Quote"I hate Arabs more than anybody, for the simple fact I've served over there and seen how they live," he tells me. "They're just a backward people. The[y] [...] are just disgusting people as far as I'm concerned. Their customs, everything to do with the Middle East, is just repugnant to me."
This sounds like Siegebreaker really.
Quote"I would volunteer for all the hardest missions, and they were like, 'Let Fogarty go.' They didn't want to get rid of me."
Then again, maybe they did.
Well, he's better than a gay.
QuoteFogarty's ex-girlfriend, intent on destroying his new military career, sent a dossier of photographs to Fort Stewart.
Typical woman.
Quote from: Tyr on June 20, 2009, 05:24:29 AM
Aren't armies designed for scum like that?
Maybe in countries who have destroyed all semblance of military professionalism and tradition. We have higher standards here and for once I'm siding with Martinus its an absolute disgrace.
Quote from: Martinus on June 20, 2009, 02:48:29 AMPhew. Good thing the guy didn't have a boyfriend. Then he would be out before he could say "Kill the niggers".
Been a problem since the days of Vietnam. Hell, H Rap Brown used to tell blacks to join the Army to receive weapons training for the coming War Against Whitey(tm). Crips and Bloods did it too, back in the 80s and 90s.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 20, 2009, 08:43:06 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 20, 2009, 05:24:29 AM
Aren't armies designed for scum like that?
Maybe in countries who have destroyed all semblance of military professionalism and tradition. We have higher standards here and for once I'm siding with Martinus its an absolute disgrace.
Except wasn't your army composed almost entirely of guys like this during WWII? You know, what with segregation and all that? I would say that the US Army was a professional force with plenty of tradition in the 1930s.
That is some fine reporting right there.
There have been "drastic consequences". Notice how he doesn't actually list one single specific example of some horrific thing happening.
So far, what we can be certain of from THIS article is that one single neo-nazi has joined the army. Everything else is pure conjecture.
Well they've let Siegy in.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 20, 2009, 08:43:06 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 20, 2009, 05:24:29 AM
Aren't armies designed for scum like that?
Maybe in countries who have destroyed all semblance of military professionalism and tradition. We have higher standards here and for once I'm siding with Martinus its an absolute disgrace.
:lol:
That IS military tradition.
yeah, im confused. If right wing extremists arent welcome in the army, where else? That'd be a wasted resource.
Quote from: Lettow77 on June 20, 2009, 10:27:33 AM
yeah, im confused. If right wing extremists arent welcome in the army, where else? That'd be a wasted resource.
Meth addicts and child molesters are also wasted resources. Who cares? Better to marginalize them then to have them infest the system.
Oh noes maybe they will torture prisoners and shit.
Quote from: Tyr on June 20, 2009, 09:55:28 AM
:lol:
That IS military tradition.
:yes:
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Quote"I dont know what effect they will have on the enemy but they scare the hell out of me!"
:wellington:
Quote from: The Brain on June 20, 2009, 10:55:06 AM
Oh noes maybe they will torture prisoners and shit.
shut the fuck up for once. you are not funny. you're a fucking child.
Quote from: saskganesh on June 20, 2009, 11:12:25 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 20, 2009, 10:55:06 AM
Oh noes maybe they will torture prisoners and shit.
shut the fuck up for once. you are not funny. you're a fucking child.
:rolleyes: Yes, let's lose all the immature unfunny posters on Languish. Awesome idea.
Quote from: saskganesh on June 20, 2009, 11:12:25 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 20, 2009, 10:55:06 AM
Oh noes maybe they will torture prisoners and shit.
shut the fuck up for once. you are not funny. you're a fucking child.
Amen.
OK criticizing America's policy of torture isn't very popular. Message received.
Quote from: saskganesh on June 20, 2009, 11:12:25 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 20, 2009, 10:55:06 AM
Oh noes maybe they will torture prisoners and shit.
shut the fuck up for once. you are not funny. you're a fucking child.
What bit you in the ass, my brother?
Quote from: saskganesh on June 20, 2009, 11:12:25 AM
shut the fuck up for once. you are not funny. you're a fucking child.
Don't diss The Brain. He may not hit a comic home run every time at bat, but his average is a lot higher than anyone else, pro or amateur.
As far as the topic is concerned, I am happy to see these kinds of people dying for their country. Much better than having them live. If some don't die... well, it's an imperfect universe.
Quote from: grumbler on June 20, 2009, 11:34:29 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 20, 2009, 11:12:25 AM
shut the fuck up for once. you are not funny. you're a fucking child.
Don't diss The Brain. He may not hit a comic home run every time at bat, but his average is a lot higher than anyone else, pro or amateur.
Who needs friends with enemies like these?
I love you too, Brain! :w00t:
If they remain cannon fodder, I don't think there will be much of a problem.
On the other hand I do hope their kind will not become, say, chairman of the joint chiefs.
Quote from: Jaron on June 20, 2009, 11:45:41 AM
I love you too, Brain! :w00t:
I love you too. But I still think we should see other people.
I see dead people!
Quote from: saskganesh on June 20, 2009, 11:12:25 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 20, 2009, 10:55:06 AM
Oh noes maybe they will torture prisoners and shit.
shut the fuck up for once. you are not funny. you're a fucking child.
I'm glad I'm not the only one being a target of sask's inexplicable outbursts.
I thought American soldiers are upstanding individuals, capable of conducting brain surgery with a fork. But now I am finding out they are instead dumb nazi cannon fodder, who are better off dead.
I'm confused. :(
Quote from: Martinus on June 20, 2009, 12:49:43 PM
I thought American soldiers are upstanding individuals, capable of conducting brain surgery with a fork.
:huh:
They use spoons.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on June 20, 2009, 01:06:49 PM
Quote from: Martinus on June 20, 2009, 12:49:43 PM
I thought American soldiers are upstanding individuals, capable of conducting brain surgery with a fork.
:huh:
They use spoons.
I thought there was no spoon. Even more confused now. :(
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on June 20, 2009, 01:06:49 PM
Quote from: Martinus on June 20, 2009, 12:49:43 PM
I thought American soldiers are upstanding individuals, capable of conducting brain surgery with a fork.
:huh:
They use spoons.
The military uses sporks.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 20, 2009, 01:39:45 PM
The military uses sporks.
They use Mr. Spork.
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It's the friggin' army. :lol: