That's still pitifully small
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/land/army/2015/04/28/czech-military-conscription-russia-budget-troops-boost/26503963/
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Czechs Plan Sharp Rise in Troop Levels
By Jaroslaw Adamowski 11:28 a.m. EDT April 28, 2015
WARSAW — Czech Defense Minister Martin Stropnicky has unveiled plans to expand the Czech Republic's military from the current 16,600 troops to as much as 27,000 by 2025. In addition, the government may revive conscription, reports local daily Mlada fronta DNES.
Stropnicky said both issues are being discussed within a broader debate about the country's military policy, and that a decision could be taken this June.
"We are continuing to discuss the most vital issue, the philosophy of the armed forces, their focus," Stropnicky said.
In March, senior government officials announced that the Czech Defense Ministry was working on a draft bill to restore conscription. By 2025, the Czech armed forces are to have a minimum of 24,000 troops.
Similar to other Eastern European allies, the Czech Republic has responded to the conflict in Ukraine, and Russia's takeover of the Crimean peninsula, with plans to hike military spending. To finance acquisition of new weapons, military equipment and training activities, Prague's defense spending is designed to rise from 41 billion krona (US $1.64 billion) in 2014 to 71.5 billion krona in 2020, according to the Czech Ministry
Does it really call for a separate thread?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 29, 2015, 01:22:26 AM
That's still pitifully small
It would be roughly 0.7 of what the US has, pro rata to population.
Hard to justify a map with a behemoth Bohemia with that army.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 29, 2015, 04:56:14 AM
Hard to justify a map with a behemoth Bohemia with that army.
:lol:
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 04:48:25 AM
Does it really call for a separate thread?
Next time remember to ask yourself this question when you start yet another gay thread :P
Sure it may seem small but when you are starting with 16.6K it takes time to add that many more. At least to have them trained and equipped for modern warfare.
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 04:52:48 AM
It would be roughly 0.7 of what the US has, pro rata to population.
In a shocking development, having a large population can be a military benefit.
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 04:52:48 AM
It would be roughly 0.7 of what the US has, pro rata to population.
That doesn't sound right.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 29, 2015, 08:51:54 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 04:52:48 AM
It would be roughly 0.7 of what the US has, pro rata to population.
That doesn't sound right.
According to wikipedia, US has 1.36 million of active military personnel. With 320 million populace, that's roughly 1 solder per 240 citizens or the ratio of military being 0.4% of populace.
If Czech Republic had 27,000 soldiers, then with its 10 million populace it would have 1 soldier per 370 citizens, so a 0.27% ratio.
0.27% is 0.675 of 0.4%, so roughly 0.7.
OK Marty. :)
4 out of 5 dentists agree.
Admittedly, according to prognoses, Czech population in 2025 would be closer to 11 million. But I would still not call 27,000 active duty soldiers "pitifully small" by comparison to its population.
Good for them and smart. Yes it's small but they're a small country and will be relying on an alliance with other nations, NATO. Now if the more financially capable Euro nations, those whose military has degraded badly, would start doing the same it would also be a good idea.
Yeah. If you want to look for "pitifully small", check out Germany (80 million population, 61 thousand troops).
In fact, having checked other countries (for example Belgium - 11 million population, 47 thousand troops or Sweden - less than 10 million population, 20 thousand troops) which I would suspect of slacking on defense spending, it seems that in Europe Germany is singularly the absolutely worst offender.
Hell, Denmark with 5.5 million has 19,000 troops.
It seems like if France, Poland and Denmark banded together, they could partition Germany with little resistance. :licklips:
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 09:59:53 AM
Yeah. If you want to look for "pitifully small", check out Germany (80 million population, 61 thousand troops).
In fact, having checked other countries (for example Belgium - 11 million population, 47 thousand troops or Sweden - less than 10 million population, 20 thousand troops) which I would suspect of slacking on defense spending, it seems that in Europe Germany is singularly the absolutely worst offender.
Hell, Denmark with 5.5 million has 19,000 troops.
It seems like if France, Poland and Denmark banded together, they could partition Germany with little resistance. :licklips:
You're mixing numbers. The German Army has a strength of 61,000. The entire German regular military is around 190,000.
Also worth pointing out that Sweden and Finland still maintain massive reserves relative to the size of those countries, so when reservists are added they are two most militarized nations in Europe. :P
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on April 29, 2015, 10:08:45 AM
Also worth pointing out that Sweden and Finland still maintain massive reserves relative to the size of those countries, so when reservists are added they are two most militarized nations in Europe. :P
Don't forget :swiss:
Yeah, but how many can they get mobilized in 6 weeks once the mobilization call goes out?
What a regressive move
Quote from: Berkut on April 29, 2015, 11:38:51 AM
Yeah, but how many can they get mobilized in 6 weeks once the mobilization call goes out?
The Swiss? The few hundred thousand in a couple of days iirc.
Quote from: Tyr on April 29, 2015, 11:42:07 AM
What a regressive move
Regressing from the road to self destruction is always good.
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 09:34:32 AM
Admittedly, according to prognoses, Czech population in 2025 would be closer to 11 million. But I would still not call 27,000 active duty soldiers "pitifully small" by comparison to its population.
that's about the same size of the "Belgian" "army" will be after the current round of cuts.
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 09:59:53 AM
It seems like if France, Poland and Denmark banded together, they could partition Germany with little resistance. :licklips:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F40.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mds4zrO6Vv1rasnq9o1_1280.jpg&hash=ab283ad787c8feb9fad0d3a092e837fb9a086cf2)
Monaco di Bavaria?
I guess German as a language doesn't exist either in that map which is why Swiss and Austrian city names are French and Italian.
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 09:59:53 AM
It seems like if France, Poland and Denmark banded together, they could partition Germany with little resistance. :licklips:
That kind of thing would never happen in Europe.... ;)
Foyer d'homme :D
That's trippy.
Ok scrap my idea. I forgot Poland would get East Germany. :(
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 29, 2015, 02:31:29 PM
That's trippy.
It is. :D
Berlin in Polish is "Berlin". The "Berolinsk" is a name I have never seen before. :P
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 02:38:04 PM
Ok scrap my idea. I forgot Poland would get East Germany. :(
And Berlin. Then again I guess that if there's something Poland doesn't need is more fascist skinheads.
I have to say seeing Aix-la-Chappelle gives me a :frog: boner.
Quote from: Valmy on April 29, 2015, 02:41:05 PM
I have to say seeing Aix-la-Chappelle gives me a :frog: boner.
French is infinitely superior to German.
By the way, my French lessons are going well. I refreshed my grammar and now can even understand what people say at me. :P
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 02:38:44 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 29, 2015, 02:31:29 PM
That's trippy.
It is. :D
Berlin in Polish is "Berlin". The "Berolinsk" is a name I have never seen before. :P
There seem to several unnecessarily creative ones.
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 02:38:04 PM
Ok scrap my idea. I forgot Poland would get East Germany. :(
They've already got some of East Germany.
Quote from: Monoriu on April 29, 2015, 05:15:17 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 04:48:25 AM
Does it really call for a separate thread?
Next time remember to ask yourself this question when you start yet another gay thread :P
:face:
Alarmed that the Netherlands is getting Hannover <_<
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 09:34:32 AM
Admittedly, according to prognoses, Czech population in 2025 would be closer to 11 million. But I would still not call 27,000 active duty soldiers "pitifully small" by comparison to its population.
For a conscript army, that is pathetic.
They're not a conscript army :mellow:
I think it's only the Swiss and Greeks left with national service. The former to defend their ill-gotten Nazi gold, the latter for Turkey.
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 29, 2015, 07:25:49 PM
Alarmed that the Netherlands is getting Hannover <_<
We don't need Hannover to take your throne. :P
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 29, 2015, 07:45:36 PM
They're not a conscript army :mellow:
I think it's only the Swiss and Greeks left with national service. The former to defend their ill-gotten Nazi gold, the latter for Turkey.
Austria still has conscription, too. A referendum came out in favor of keeping it. It's mostly the social services really profiting from it, though.
In other Czech news, their president Zeman refuses to send an ambassador to Kosovo, saying that he doesn't recognize the country as independent .... even though the Czech Republic already formally recognized in 2008. He calls the Kosovar foreign minister a war criminal and gangster and points out that he has done so several times in the past.
Zeman is also one of the few heads of states from Western countries who had accepted Russia's V-Day Parade invitation, though he has since withdrawn his participation. And he barred the US ambassador from the Prague castle where the president resides after US criticism of Zeman intending to attend the parade in Moscow: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32189757
How's the Czech president elected? Both of the ones since Havel (:wub:) have been...interesting.
Quote from: Syt on April 30, 2015, 04:28:24 AM
In other Czech news, their president Zeman refuses to send an ambassador to Kosovo, saying that he doesn't recognize the country as independent .... even though the Czech Republic already formally recognized in 2008. He calls the Kosovar foreign minister a war criminal and gangster and points out that he has done so several times in the past.
Zeman is also one of the few heads of states from Western countries who had accepted Russia's V-Day Parade invitation, though he has since withdrawn his participation. And he barred the US ambassador from the Prague castle where the president resides after US criticism of Zeman intending to attend the parade in Moscow: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32189757
His daughter is a hottie.
Don't just say。 show
Quote from: 11B4V on April 29, 2015, 07:42:38 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 29, 2015, 09:34:32 AM
Admittedly, according to prognoses, Czech population in 2025 would be closer to 11 million. But I would still not call 27,000 active duty soldiers "pitifully small" by comparison to its population.
For a conscript army, that is pathetic.
Can you read?