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Title: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Jacob on March 11, 2015, 01:23:33 PM
QuoteWhile visiting the Concord City Republican Committee on March 7th at the "Politics and Pies" forum, the 59-year-old Senator asserted that American ground troops would be necessary to defeat ISIS. In addition, he advocated for the reversal of defense spending cuts and, as President of the United States, Graham would restrict the movement of lawmakers until those cuts are reversed.

"...and here is the first thing I would do if I were President of the United States, I wouldn't let Congress leave town until we fix this. I would literally use the military to keep them in if I had to."

http://benswann.com/graham-military-force-congress/

Has this kind of rhetoric been used before, or is this somewhat new?
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Valmy on March 11, 2015, 01:26:01 PM
Stupid rhetoric?  Lindsey Graham has been using it his whole life.

He sounds kind of like a radical Cordelier Club member (in his legislative tactics anyway) here though  :w00t:
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: KRonn on March 11, 2015, 01:37:05 PM
I think Graham is usually a squishy moderate but he can get pretty fired up sometimes. He's often one of the pols out there talking about issues with the media. He is pretty smart guy but likley he's looking to run for president so is making some grandiose noise here.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Siege on March 11, 2015, 01:38:32 PM
Lindsey Graham is a friggin big goverment republican, enemy of low taxes, free market capitalism, and individual freedoms.

He is supported by the Chamber of Crony Commerce, the worst enemies of free market. They want to force monopolistic capitalism on our economy, and they want ot legalize all the illegal immigrants without locking the borders, meaning more illegals in the future to overwhelm our social services and steal the jobs of our citizens.

I see zero chance of he winning.

But then, last presidential election big money managed to buy the nomination of Rommney and the conservative base stayed home and didn't vote. This is what happens when the RINOs want to win the votes of the "independent" voters. They move to the left and lose the conservative base. They should know by now that they cannot take the conservative base for granted. When the repubican candidate is a RINO the base stays home and the democrats win, which makes me question what these people REALLY want. Perhaps they are confortable as the oposition party and don't really care about winning the White House.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: derspiess on March 11, 2015, 01:39:55 PM
I don't think anyone likes Graham at this point.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Valmy on March 11, 2015, 01:46:42 PM
Quote from: KRonn on March 11, 2015, 01:37:05 PM
He is pretty smart guy

:lol:
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 11, 2015, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 11, 2015, 01:38:32 PM
But then, last presidential election big money managed to buy the nomination of Rommney and the conservative base stayed home and didn't vote. This is what happens when the RINOs want to win the votes of the "independent" voters. They move to the left and lose the conservative base. They should know by now that they cannot take the conservative base for granted. When the repubican candidate is a RINO the base stays home and the democrats win, which makes me question what these people REALLY want. Perhaps they are confortable as the oposition party and don't really care about winning the White House.

This attitude will guarantee a Democratic White House for the foreseeable future.

The next step in your intellectual development Seeb, should you choose to embrace it, is to begin to think for yourself.  And to see both sides of arguments.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Grey Fox on March 11, 2015, 01:52:11 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 11, 2015, 01:38:32 PM
Lindsey Graham is a friggin big goverment republican, enemy of low taxes, free market capitalism, and individual freedoms.

My kind of guy.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Habbaku on March 11, 2015, 01:52:18 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 11, 2015, 01:46:42 PM
Quote from: KRonn on March 11, 2015, 01:37:05 PM
He is pretty smart guy

:lol:

Seriously.  KRonn is coming off as a naïf lately. Lindsey Graham is probably one of the worst senators in office.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 11, 2015, 01:52:40 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 11, 2015, 01:38:32 PM
But then, last presidential election big money managed to buy the nomination of Rommney and the conservative base stayed home and didn't vote. This is what happens when the RINOs want to win the votes of the "independent" voters. They move to the left and lose the conservative base. They should know by now that they cannot take the conservative base for granted. When the repubican candidate is a RINO the base stays home and the democrats win, which makes me question what these people REALLY want. Perhaps they are confortable as the oposition party and don't really care about winning the White House.

On the other hand, they can move to the right and lose the independent voters* and lose the election just as easily. This is what happens when the majority of the population doesn't agree with their program.

*1/3 of the total btw, so hardly a negligible group.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Valmy on March 11, 2015, 02:13:27 PM
Siege should take note that ideological purity gets you Libertarian Party results eventually.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: KRonn on March 11, 2015, 02:15:41 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 11, 2015, 01:52:18 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 11, 2015, 01:46:42 PM
Quote from: KRonn on March 11, 2015, 01:37:05 PM
He is pretty smart guy

:lol:

Seriously.  KRonn is coming off as a naïf lately. Lindsey Graham is probably one of the worst senators in office.
He's often sought out for his views. Conservatives don't always like him for his too moderate stances, but I often like some of his views, but I'm not a fan of his nor of him running for office.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Martinus on March 11, 2015, 03:06:00 PM
Mme Lindsey Graham is one of the most amusing US politicians.  :bowler:
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Valmy on March 11, 2015, 03:12:25 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 11, 2015, 03:06:00 PM
Mme Lindsey Graham is one of the most amusing US politicians.  :bowler:

:unsure:

I don't get it.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 11, 2015, 03:15:44 PM
He's got a girl's name, that makes him a girl. lulz.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Valmy on March 11, 2015, 03:16:47 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 11, 2015, 03:15:44 PM
He's got a girl's name, that makes him a girl. lulz.

Lindsey is actually a boy's name that girls have lately started to use.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: celedhring on March 11, 2015, 03:17:20 PM
He's no Heather Graham.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Martinus on March 11, 2015, 03:18:04 PM
He also has a very feminine way of speaking.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 11, 2015, 03:19:36 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 11, 2015, 03:16:47 PM
Lindsey is actually a boy's name that girls have lately started to use.

Lately as in before you and I were born. :contract:
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Valmy on March 11, 2015, 03:20:40 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 11, 2015, 03:19:36 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 11, 2015, 03:16:47 PM
Lindsey is actually a boy's name that girls have lately started to use.

Lately as in before you and I were born. :contract:

That is just a tribute to our youth. -_-
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: Habbaku on March 11, 2015, 05:48:16 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 11, 2015, 03:18:04 PM
He also has a very feminine way of speaking.

And is a lifelong bachelor.  There is a lot of gay rumor about him.

To be fair to him, though, the effete, Southern male manner of speaking isn't terribly uncommon and isn't always associated with the guy being gay.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham = American Sulla ?
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 11, 2015, 05:51:55 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 11, 2015, 05:48:16 PM
To be fair to him, though, the effete, Southern male manner of speaking isn't terribly uncommon and isn't always associated with the guy being gay.

I understand when he is overcome with the vapours, he retires to the parlor.