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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: CountDeMoney on February 25, 2015, 07:27:35 PM

Title: Incan torpedo boats and Saturn V-sized missiles, oh my
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 25, 2015, 07:27:35 PM
QuoteIran Blows Up Gigantic U.S. Carrier Mock-Up During Naval Exercise

The massive mock-up of an American aircraft carrier spotted nearly a year go accomplished its final mission today: being blown apart in a monumental Iranian war game in the Persian Gulf.

Some 20 missiles and swarms of Iranian gunboats took aim at the elaborate barge masquerading as the USS Nimitz, blasting massive holes in its structure as part of the "Ninth Great Prophet" naval exercises that took place near the very tense Straits of Hormuz.

Iran's gigantic carrier mock-up first made waves last March when it was spotted in dry dock east of Bandar Abbass. Clearly, such a big-ticket item was meant for the military to use as a target, but shortly after its presence was known, the ship was identified as an elaborate set for Sean Stone's (Oliver Stone's son) film about Flight 655, which was shot down by the USS Vincennes in 1988. The movie, titled simply Airbus, was said to be a joint venture between the American-Canadian owned Reel Knights and an Iranian "entertainment company."

Since that announcement, there has been very little talk about Airbus the movie and the mock-carrier was seen sitting in dry dock late last year, although all of its Nimitz-like markings were being covered over with gray paint. This "redressing" clearly had something to do with the recent missile tests that would see the prop getting pummeled by high explosives and raided by IRGC commandos.

Getting rid of contrast by painting the entire ship in a reflective gray treatment could be used to make the target more challenging or possibly easier for electro-optical or infrared seekers to see depending on the conditions and technology involved. If the paint had radar reflective qualities, the same could be true for a radar seeker, which are commonly used on anti-ship missiles. Or they could've just been painted over for geopolitical reasons.

Sinking a ship that looks exactly like a US super carrier, even with the Nimitz's '68' marked on its bow, could have been considered a step too far in terms of provocation at a time when Iran is supposedly trying to work out a nuclear deal with the US and other western nations.

The fact that Iran struck the faux carrier with a barrage of anti-ship missiles, then swarmed it with small boats and then landed commandos on it,  :lol: :lol: :lol: has to result in an unnerving mental picture for American and allied ships' crews prowling the Gulf.

The IRGC navy chief, Adm. Ali Fadavi, discussed the exercise on state-ran TV, stating:

    American aircraft carriers are very big ammunition depots housing a lot of missiles, rockets, torpedoes and everything else. A direct hit by a missile could set off a large secondary explosion... We have the most advanced sea mines which cannot be imagined by the Americans.

As originally predicted, movie or not, Iran's wanna-be carrier was attacked during a high-profile military drill in the sensitive Straits of Hormuz, with missiles blasting away at the big ship's flimsy facade. Because the big prop is just that – a carrier look-alike sitting atop a pontoon barge – it appears to have not sunk following the massive onslaught. As a result, this may not be the last time we see of this floating monstrosity. After some superficial repairs it could be used again and again in similar exercises.

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Some great IRG video productions of the USS Great Satan exercise--
http://youtu.be/widl5Tz4QfA
http://youtu.be/2FdIShA_7-s


Meanwhile, at the villain's desert lair...

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PLA 'sinks' US carrier in DF-21D missile test in Gobi
The People's Liberation Army has successfully sunk a US aircraft carrier, according to a satellite photo provided by Google Earth, reports our sister paper Want Daily — though the strike was a war game, the carrier a mock-up platform and the "sinking" occurred on dry land in a remote part of western China.

A satellite image reveals two large craters on a 200-meter-long white platform in the Gobi desert used to simulate the flight deck of an aircraft carrier. The photo was first posted on SAORBATS, an internet forum based in Argentina. Military analysts believed the craters would have been created by China's DF-21D anti-ship missile, dubbed the "carrier killer."

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While claiming that the missile has the capability to hit aircraft carriers 2,000 kilometers away, the nationalistic Chinese tabloid Global Times stated that the weapon was only designed for self-defense; the DF-21D will never pose a serious threat to US national security because it is not even able to reach Hawaii, the newspaper said, though fully aware of the US naval deployment in the Western Pacific.

Underlining this point, Global Times took a common line from China's national defense doctrine before the country acquired an aircraft carrier of its own — namely that carriers are an offensive weapon while anti-ship missiles are defensive. "It can be used like a stick to hit the dog intruding on our backyard, but it can never be used to attack the house where the dog comes from," the paper's commentary said.

Title: Re: Incan torpedo boats and Saturn V-sized missiles, oh my
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 25, 2015, 07:44:32 PM
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Xi Jinping visits a PLAAF Human Cannonball Unit in Xi'an, northwest China, Feb. 17
Title: Re: Incan torpedo boats and Saturn V-sized missiles, oh my
Post by: Ed Anger on February 25, 2015, 07:59:04 PM
We might have a chink in the armor.
Title: Re: Incan torpedo boats and Saturn V-sized missiles, oh my
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 25, 2015, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 25, 2015, 07:44:32 PM
Human Cannonball Unit
:D
Title: Re: Incan torpedo boats and Saturn V-sized missiles, oh my
Post by: grumbler on February 25, 2015, 08:42:15 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 25, 2015, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 25, 2015, 07:44:32 PM
Human Cannonball Unit
:D

Judging by the craters, those were some large humans.  My guess is they they were bred and raised entirely for the purpose of serving as anti-carrier HCBs.
Title: Re: Incan torpedo boats and Saturn V-sized missiles, oh my
Post by: Razgovory on February 25, 2015, 09:45:21 PM
It's hard to come up with something clever to say after seeing that.  It's like making fun of a clown.
Title: Re: Incan torpedo boats and Saturn V-sized missiles, oh my
Post by: derspiess on February 26, 2015, 10:33:50 AM
Surprised Seedy didn't do something with the "stick to hit the dog" analogy.
Title: Re: Incan torpedo boats and Saturn V-sized missiles, oh my
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 26, 2015, 10:34:38 AM
I don't believe in animal abuse, you know that.
Title: Re: Incan torpedo boats and Saturn V-sized missiles, oh my
Post by: derspiess on February 26, 2015, 10:36:31 AM
I know-- that's why I thought you'd pounce on it.