Exactly what is says on the tin.
A mate of mine recently introduced me to the recruiter that got him a job in England. The guy just sent me info on an opening for Luton. I'm not really searching for a job, but it never hurts to take a look at what's being offered, if nothing else to know how much I should negotiate for in the future. But it's hard to do that if I have no idea how much money I'd spend on rent, utilities, etc.
Good place ? I don't know but a place.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=United+Kingdom&city=Luton
I would say it is all about the cost of housing. There are small differences in other things but they are not really worth worrying about.
If you work for an employer this will help you work out your take home pay http://www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php
Rents can be found at places like this http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent.html
Quote from: Iormlund on February 25, 2015, 12:46:45 PM
Exactly what is says on the tin.
A mate of mine recently introduced me to the recruiter that got him a job in England. The guy just sent me info on an opening for Luton. I'm not really searching for a job, but it never hurts to take a look at what's being offered, if nothing else to know how much I should negotiate for in the future. But it's hard to do that if I have no idea how much money I'd spend on rent, utilities, etc.
Luton is just NW of London, needless to say, look away from London, so further NW would be my educated guess. Rightmove as linked by RH is the easiest way to gauge prices and as he said everything else is largely the same price anywhere.
http://www.zoopla.co.uk/heatmaps/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23234033
My home town has the cheapest houses in England, maybe even the UK :bowler:
Quote from: Tamas on February 25, 2015, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on February 25, 2015, 12:46:45 PM
Exactly what is says on the tin.
A mate of mine recently introduced me to the recruiter that got him a job in England. The guy just sent me info on an opening for Luton. I'm not really searching for a job, but it never hurts to take a look at what's being offered, if nothing else to know how much I should negotiate for in the future. But it's hard to do that if I have no idea how much money I'd spend on rent, utilities, etc.
Luton is just NW of London, needless to say, look away from London, so further NW would be my educated guess. Rightmove as linked by RH is the easiest way to gauge prices and as he said everything else is largely the same price anywhere.
Yeah there's not a lot of variation in Southern England or more generally south of the Wash-Severn line.
QuoteLet's move to ...
... Luton, Bedfordshire
Tom Dyckhoff
Saturday 12 February 2005 01.30 GMT
Luton, Bedfordshire
Luton in the February drizzle isn't the most delicious of prospects. It's a town seemingly twinned with the seventh circle of hell. Hence it's top of the flops in the book Crap Towns II: 'Too close to London to warrant building anything approaching what the capital has,' it snips, 'yet just far enough away to offer a sense of other-worldly, neglected isolation.'
Ups No place with Britain's first Arndale Centre can be that bad. Cosmopolitan. Dunstable Downs. Transport links. Cheap.
Downs The shrivelling Vauxhall plant hit it bad. The Arndale Centre: OK, so it ruined the town centre. Crime and some racial tension. People still mentioning Lorraine Chase. Like me.
Getting around Rail: London 30 min/ every 20 min. The M1. The airport.
Schools Not great, though Bushmead primary 'very good' and Denbigh High 'very effective', says Ofsted.
Property Mostly Edwardians and 1930s. Exec detacheds, £400,000-£650,000. Loads of smaller detacheds and semis, £230,000-£370,000; terraces, £110,000-£170,000. Flats, £70,000-£170,000 for lofty swank pads. Watch where you buy: flight paths and rough patches. Agents, such as Haart (01582 417741), around Wellington Street.
I mainly know Luton because of the occasional terrorist plot originating there and an airport used by Easyjet and Ryanair that's really, really not worth the tenner you save.
It could be lovely for all I know, but I'd say maybe look at the slightly nicer towns around Luton like St Albans or Letchworth Garden City (where you'll also get a horrifying insight into what English fascism would've looked like) :)
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 25, 2015, 03:38:56 PM
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I mainly know Luton because of the occasional terrorist plot originating there and an airport used by Easyjet and Ryanair that's really, really not worth the tenner you save.
It could be lovely for all I know, but I'd say maybe look at the slightly nicer towns around Luton like St Albans or Letchworth Garden City (where you'll also get a horrifying insight into what English fascism would've looked like) :)
I wasn't at all impressed when I used to go there, but I suspect the influx of new migrants has rather improved the place.
A bit of a different question, but are there any sites that show good maps of London neighborhoods? Most I have found only show a few or are just borough level. At the current moment, I don't even know name of the neighborhood that I am in. :blush:
Quote from: garbon on March 02, 2015, 01:40:41 PM
A bit of a different question, but are there any sites that show good maps of London neighborhoods? Most I have found only show a few or are just borough level. At the current moment, I don't even know name of the neighborhood that I am in. :blush:
Where are you, and please don't say Crouch End.
Well they can be very small, often just a handful of streets or just one if a more important one.
Wiki would be you best bet.
Ben Dover
Quote from: garbon on March 02, 2015, 01:40:41 PM
A bit of a different question, but are there any sites that show good maps of London neighborhoods? Most I have found only show a few or are just borough level. At the current moment, I don't even know name of the neighborhood that I am in. :blush:
They generally don't have any official status so it is a matter of argument and discussion. If you let us know which street you are moving to then the British posters could have fun discussing which neighbourhood you live in.
I see. :D
Well though DSB will chastise me for sharing, doing my short term living in area bounded by Swiss Cottage, Chalk Farm and Belsize Park tube stops.
You're probably in Swiss Cottage, Chalk Farm or, if you're very rich, Primrose Hill :o
Whichever it is, you're in Camden :)
Also, welcome.
I'm not paying for my temp accommodations. :secret:
Might be the area known as Belsize Park.
At anyrate, I don't think I plan to live here. Seems rather pricey / a bit quiet until I walk closer to Camden Town stop.
Yeah. Maybe try Kentish Town if you like the area? I think it's a bit cheaper and more lively.
Also avoid Camden Town.
Quote from: garbon on March 02, 2015, 03:15:47 PM
At anyrate, I don't think I plan to live here. Seems rather pricey / a bit quiet until I walk closer to Camden Town stop.
One thought, if there's a small row of shops close at hand, ask and one of them will give you a 'defiinitve' answer as to what the area is called.
Oh I could do that. There is a small strip close by.
@Sheilbh - No worries there. Camden Town reminds me of a place I dislike in NYC (St. Marks Place). I still need to really get my head around funds but I have been thinking something like Islington or Hackney.
Islington and Hackney are good areas :)
Camden Town was cool when you were a 14 year old from the provinces in London for the day :blush:
Luton is a pretty horrible place, like most of the dormitory towns just outside London.
Quote from: garbon on March 02, 2015, 03:31:37 PM
Oh I could do that. There is a small strip close by.
@Sheilbh - No worries there. Camden Town reminds me of a place I dislike in NYC (St. Marks Place). I still need to really get my head around funds but I have been thinking something like Islington or Hackney.
What kind of area are you looking for in terms of a vibe?
I found mail downstairs that indicates I am in Belsize Park. :w00t:
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Quote from: garbon on March 02, 2015, 03:31:37 PM
Oh I could do that. There is a small strip close by.
@Sheilbh - No worries there. Camden Town reminds me of a place I dislike in NYC (St. Marks Place). I still need to really get my head around funds but I have been thinking something like Islington or Hackney.
What kind of area are you looking for in terms of a vibe?
Good question. I'm thinking enough happening in the neighbourhood that I don't feel like I need to constantly take long trips out (particularly in sense of restaurants/places to go out at night). At same time want to balance cost but also commute to work (near Bond Street tube stop).
That said I know I am not a super big fan of Camden Town nor Shoreditch vibes. I might stake a hipster in the latter. :blush:
Around Bethnal Green? Easy access to Bond Street on the Central Line. Marylebone/Baker St is a great area and walking distance to Bond Street but I guess too expensive (can't imagine you'd get much change from £400/week for a studio flat)
Yeah that is one are I have on list to check out (Bethnal Green). I agree with thought that Marylebone would leave me with a perpetual wish to make more money. :weep:
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Quote from: garbon on March 02, 2015, 03:31:37 PM
Oh I could do that. There is a small strip close by.
@Sheilbh - No worries there. Camden Town reminds me of a place I dislike in NYC (St. Marks Place). I still need to really get my head around funds but I have been thinking something like Islington or Hackney.
What kind of area are you looking for in terms of a vibe?
Good question. I'm thinking enough happening in the neighbourhood that I don't feel like I need to constantly take long trips out (particularly in sense of restaurants/places to go out at night). At same time want to balance cost but also commute to work (near Bond Street tube stop).
That said I know I am not a super big fan of Camden Town nor Shoreditch vibes. I might stake a hipster in the latter. :blush:
I would suggest then that you need to look south of the river somewhere in zone 2.
Brixton might suit you - there's a real community feel and lots of interesting bars and restaurants (admittedly because it is getting richer now, the chains are moving in).
Brixton is great. I lived there for 15 years and still have a lot of friends there. Loads of good pubs, bars and restaurants, a lovely art deco cinema, several clubs, a fantastic park and a major gig venue.
Another up and coming place that's relatively cheap is Camberwell. It also puts you close to Brixton and Peckham. I'm moving there on Friday (have bought a place, so now I read the Torygraph and vote UKIP), the only issue is that it wouldn't be the shortest possible commute to Bond Street.
Whereabouts are you in Camberwell Ark? It's not terrible for commuting if you are at the Oval or Denmark Hill ends but otherwise you're dependant on a bus to the Elephant.
I go to a pub quiz at the Cambria, the other side of Ruskin Park, semi-regularly.
You me and Shelf should so a Languish Sarf Lahndan branch meeting one of these days.
Quote from: Gups on March 03, 2015, 12:28:06 PM
Whereabouts are you in Camberwell Ark? It's not terrible for commuting if you are at the Oval or Denmark Hill ends but otherwise you're dependant on a bus to the Elephant.
I go to a pub quiz at the Cambria, the other side of Ruskin Park, semi-regularly.
You me and Shelf should so a Languish Sarf Lahndan branch meeting one of these days.
I'll be moving near to Myatts Field - so near the Oval end (it will be the closest tube). I'm game for a Sahf Lahndan meet!
Quote from: Warspite on March 03, 2015, 11:29:37 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2015, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: Warspite on March 03, 2015, 08:54:23 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 02, 2015, 03:31:37 PM
Oh I could do that. There is a small strip close by.
@Sheilbh - No worries there. Camden Town reminds me of a place I dislike in NYC (St. Marks Place). I still need to really get my head around funds but I have been thinking something like Islington or Hackney.
What kind of area are you looking for in terms of a vibe?
Good question. I'm thinking enough happening in the neighbourhood that I don't feel like I need to constantly take long trips out (particularly in sense of restaurants/places to go out at night). At same time want to balance cost but also commute to work (near Bond Street tube stop).
That said I know I am not a super big fan of Camden Town nor Shoreditch vibes. I might stake a hipster in the latter. :blush:
I would suggest then that you need to look south of the river somewhere in zone 2.
Brixton might suit you - there's a real community feel and lots of interesting bars and restaurants (admittedly because it is getting richer now, the chains are moving in).
Interesting as that's actually where I spent mort of the day. Stared at Kennington tube stop then made my way down to Brixton, acros to Clapham and then back up through Vauxhall.
Avoid Clapham, unless you like juiced-up Australians and South Africans who list "The gym" under interests.
I think that's what you told me when that online quiz told me to live there. :D
Telling the black guy to move to Britton... :hmm:
Quote from: Tyr on March 03, 2015, 01:25:21 PM
Telling the black guy to move to Britton... :hmm:
1982 just called for you Tyr. It wants its lazy stereotype back. It'll give you an "x" in return.
Autocorrect stole my x :(
Which isn't even correct
Quote from: Tyr on March 03, 2015, 01:25:21 PM
Telling the black guy to move to Britton... :hmm:
:unsure:
Most of the people I saw today in Brixton were decidely not white. :unsure:
Were they ambiguously beige?
Guppy is as beige as they come.
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 03, 2015, 01:25:21 PM
Telling the black guy to move to Britton... :hmm:
:unsure:
Most of the people I saw today in Brixton were decidely not white. :unsure:
Brixton is famously a Caribbean neighbourhood. When I moved there in 1990 it was about 75% black, now it's probably less than 40% although a lot of Jamaicans come into the area to grocery shop etc.
Quote from: Gups on March 03, 2015, 01:48:55 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 03, 2015, 01:25:21 PM
Telling the black guy to move to Britton... :hmm:
:unsure:
Most of the people I saw today in Brixton were decidely not white. :unsure:
Brixton is famously a Caribbean neighbourhood. When I moved there in 1990 it was about 75% black, now it's probably less than 40% although a lot of Jamaicans come into the area to grocery shop etc.
Ah gotcha. :)
Quote from: Gups on March 03, 2015, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 03, 2015, 01:46:12 PM
Guppy is as beige as they come.
Unambiguously so
Good. I have a hard time with the ambiguity of it all.
The reference is this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AmbiguouslyBrown btw
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2015, 01:25:02 PM
I think that's what you told me when that online quiz told me to live there. :D
Yes. It's the one drum I bang.
Quote from: Gups on March 03, 2015, 01:48:55 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 03, 2015, 01:25:21 PM
Telling the black guy to move to Britton... :hmm:
:unsure:
Most of the people I saw today in Brixton were decidely not white. :unsure:
Brixton is famously a Caribbean neighbourhood. When I moved there in 1990 it was about 75% black, now it's probably less than 40% although a lot of Jamaicans come into the area to grocery shop etc.
The dreadful irony about people complaining about Brixton gentrifying with lots of rich white folk who can't quite afford to live in Fulham is that Brixton was originally a wealthy Victorian suburb. It's just reverting to type.
By the way garbs, if you can get somewhere close to the Victoria line. It's easily the quickest and most frequent of all the London Underground lines. It's like a greased duck being thrown across ice.
Quote from: Warspite on March 03, 2015, 12:15:56 PM
Another up and coming place that's relatively cheap is Camberwell. It also puts you close to Brixton and Peckham. I'm moving there on Friday (have bought a place, so now I read the Torygraph and vote UKIP), the only issue is that it wouldn't be the shortest possible commute to Bond Street.
Welcome :)
QuoteWhereabouts are you in Camberwell Ark? It's not terrible for commuting if you are at the Oval or Denmark Hill ends but otherwise you're dependant on a bus to the Elephant.
Yeah. For the West End it's not great. But the whole Brixton, Kennington, Stockwell and Oval area's good. Stuff happening so you don't have to go into town, but easy to get in if you want to.
QuoteI'll be moving near to Myatts Field - so near the Oval end (it will be the closest tube). I'm game for a Sahf Lahndan meet!
Same.
I like Myatts Field, some nice houses round there. Also you're pretty close to the Turkish supermarket which is amazing (if you've always dreamed of an olive aisle and a baklava counter in your supermarket).
QuoteBrixton is famously a Caribbean neighbourhood. When I moved there in 1990 it was about 75% black, now it's probably less than 40% although a lot of Jamaicans come into the area to grocery shop etc.
Always think the growth of the African community in Brixton (and Camberwell and Peckham) is probably as big a shift as the gentrifiers.
She was a Jezebel, this Brixton queen
Livin' her life like a bad sweet dream
Tellin' me lies when the truth was clear
I think she knew what I wanted to hear
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 04, 2015, 01:49:27 AMAlso you're pretty close to the Turkish supermarket which is amazing (if you've always dreamed of an olive aisle and a baklava counter in your supermarket).
I have, actually. :licklips:
I'd love to have an aisle just for masks and headgear.
wait for it.......
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2015, 12:51:43 PM
Quote from: Warspite on March 03, 2015, 11:29:37 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2015, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: Warspite on March 03, 2015, 08:54:23 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 02, 2015, 03:31:37 PM
Oh I could do that. There is a small strip close by.
@Sheilbh - No worries there. Camden Town reminds me of a place I dislike in NYC (St. Marks Place). I still need to really get my head around funds but I have been thinking something like Islington or Hackney.
What kind of area are you looking for in terms of a vibe?
Good question. I'm thinking enough happening in the neighbourhood that I don't feel like I need to constantly take long trips out (particularly in sense of restaurants/places to go out at night). At same time want to balance cost but also commute to work (near Bond Street tube stop).
That said I know I am not a super big fan of Camden Town nor Shoreditch vibes. I might stake a hipster in the latter. :blush:
I would suggest then that you need to look south of the river somewhere in zone 2.
Brixton might suit you - there's a real community feel and lots of interesting bars and restaurants (admittedly because it is getting richer now, the chains are moving in).
Interesting as that's actually where I spent mort of the day. Stared at Kennington tube stop then made my way down to Brixton, acros to Clapham and then back up through Vauxhall.
So I've changed up again. Been more focused on (though still a bit broad) Clerkenwell, Angel, Canonbury, Hoxton and Shoreditch.
All good places. All very expensive even by London standards. Hoxton and Shoreditch very busy, very hipsterish. Angel even busier, more mainstream for bars etc. Bit dominated by a major road. Canonbury is quieter more family-orientated, lovely architecture. Clerkenwell is great if you can afford it, the most central of all of those places and great transport links.
Unless I suddenly get undercut by landlord receiving better offer, I've now secured a flat in Angel. :w00t:
:w00t:
:w00t: :cheers:
:weep:
:cheers:
If you're into that, there's a *great* Indian vegetarian all-you-can-eat buffet in that area. A friend of mine took me there and it was really cheap and delicious.
Oh yeah, what's it called?
Quote from: garbon on March 26, 2015, 04:20:36 PM
Oh yeah, what's it called?
Indian Vegetarian All-You-Can-Eat Buffet
Easy to spot, it's the shop with very long signage. :D
edit:
probably this one:
http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Indian_Veg_Bhelpoori_House%2C_N1_9EX (http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Indian_Veg_Bhelpoori_House%2C_N1_9EX)
From google, I'm assuming it might be "Indian Veg"
It is that one indeed.
I see that the menu is at 6 pounds already, when I went there in 2002 I think it was at 3.5. :lol:
COST OF LIVING CRISIS!
:lol:
Quote from: The Larch on March 26, 2015, 05:41:43 PM
It is that one indeed.
Cool, I'll have to check it out. I realized that I also will have to start using all the buzzfeed articles I favorited on cheap eats in London. :D
Drummond Street near Euston has lots of Indian (veg and non-veg) places which do good buffets. Whitechapel (Pakistani) and Tooting (South Indian/Sri Lankan) are still the best for cheap sub-continental food.
Quote from: garbon on March 27, 2015, 05:42:55 AM
Quote from: The Larch on March 26, 2015, 05:41:43 PM
It is that one indeed.
Cool, I'll have to check it out. I realized that I also will have to start using all the buzzfeed articles I favorited on cheap eats in London. :D
This one actually featured in an article about vegetarian places in London, if you're interested in those. :)
http://www.buzzfeed.com/tabathaleggett/dishes-every-vegetarian-in-london-has-got-to-try#.fd4L5PWJJ5 (http://www.buzzfeed.com/tabathaleggett/dishes-every-vegetarian-in-london-has-got-to-try#.fd4L5PWJJ5)
Thanks! I'll definitely have to check out Itadaki Zen. While I may not be a vegetarian, I love a good vegetarian Japanese place. :)
Quote from: Gups on March 27, 2015, 05:59:08 AM
Drummond Street near Euston has lots of Indian (veg and non-veg) places which do good buffets. Whitechapel (Pakistani) and Tooting (South Indian/Sri Lankan) are still the best for cheap sub-continental food.
I'm going to Tooting (Banana Leaf) tonight! :yeah:
Quote from: Warspite on March 27, 2015, 11:10:13 AM
Quote from: Gups on March 27, 2015, 05:59:08 AM
Drummond Street near Euston has lots of Indian (veg and non-veg) places which do good buffets. Whitechapel (Pakistani) and Tooting (South Indian/Sri Lankan) are still the best for cheap sub-continental food.
I'm going to Tooting (Banana Leaf) tonight! :yeah:
I love Apollo Banana Leaf, probably my favourite south Asian restaurant.
You can't go wrong really but particularly recommend the mutton rolls, chicken 65, squid curry and the coconut rice. Don't forget to take your own beer
Mutton rolls? Like sheep sandwich? That sounds kind of nasty.
No, it's a pastry type roll rather than bread roll. Deep fired. Mutton is great. Much more flavour than lamb - wish it was more widely available.
Quote from: Gups on March 27, 2015, 11:54:11 AM
Quote from: Warspite on March 27, 2015, 11:10:13 AM
Quote from: Gups on March 27, 2015, 05:59:08 AM
Drummond Street near Euston has lots of Indian (veg and non-veg) places which do good buffets. Whitechapel (Pakistani) and Tooting (South Indian/Sri Lankan) are still the best for cheap sub-continental food.
I'm going to Tooting (Banana Leaf) tonight! :yeah:
I love Apollo Banana Leaf, probably my favourite south Asian restaurant.
You can't go wrong really but particularly recommend the mutton rolls, chicken 65, squid curry and the coconut rice. Don't forget to take your own beer
Oh, I've been there many times. My good friend who lives in Tooting seriously considered asking them to cater for his wedding. We backed his decision - but the bride's family said no.
Wait - there's a region of London called Tooting?
:lol: