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General Category => Off the Record => Computer Affairs => Topic started by: Caliga on February 07, 2015, 06:33:10 PM

Title: new PC build
Post by: Caliga on February 07, 2015, 06:33:10 PM
Getting ready to pull the trigger on this for Princesca:

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Caliga/saved/xNCtt6 (http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Caliga/saved/xNCtt6)

May also add an aftermarket CPU cooler, since Intel stock coolers are almost always junk.  I have a spare 750W power supply so that's why there isn't one on the list.  Also, I may add a DVD burner to this build.

Feel free to criticize, comment, etc.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Liep on February 08, 2015, 03:44:29 AM
[Vricklund]Case is ugly. :yuk:[/Vricklund]

Looks pretty solid to my untrained eyes.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Caliga on February 08, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Whenever I see a gaming nerd brag about how awesome their case looks, I reach for my Beretta.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Grey Fox on February 08, 2015, 09:06:53 AM
It's an i5 you are not overclocking, there is no need for an aftermarket cooler.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Norgy on February 08, 2015, 11:14:52 AM
Good setup. Although I would've splashed for a 970 card.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: DGuller on February 08, 2015, 11:18:51 AM
Quote from: Caliga on February 08, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Whenever I see a gaming nerd brag about how awesome their case looks, I reach for my Beretta.
Which part of it?
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Tonitrus on February 08, 2015, 01:19:15 PM
Quote from: Caliga on February 08, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Whenever I see a gaming nerd brag about how awesome their case looks, I reach for my Beretta.

MAH MOUNTING SCREWS
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Caliga on February 08, 2015, 03:33:32 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 08, 2015, 09:06:53 AM
It's an i5 you are not overclocking, there is no need for an aftermarket cooler.
Yeah I've decided against it.  If she starts bitching about fan noise maybe I'll put one in later.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Norgy on February 08, 2015, 03:34:55 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 08, 2015, 09:06:53 AM
It's an i5 you are not overclocking, there is no need for an aftermarket cooler.

I disagree. The 4xxx series run hot, due to their size.
I'd go for a small ready-made water loop like the Corsair h40.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: DGuller on February 08, 2015, 03:37:14 PM
Does custom CPU fan reduce the noise?  My new PC has the stock CPU fan, and I definitely get an audio version of the CPU utilization plot with it.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Norgy on February 08, 2015, 05:18:58 PM
Depends on what you buy, really.

Noctua sell some great coolers with fans that are much less audible than the stock one.
I've also had custom coolers that were terribly loud and not very cool.

Once I went with Corsair's closed-loop liquid coolers, I've never looked back. Cool, quiet and easy to install.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Grey Fox on February 08, 2015, 06:39:00 PM
Maybe they do but first take care of your case fans.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Tonitrus on February 08, 2015, 11:51:09 PM
I was hoping this....

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwinblog.blob.core.windows.net%2Fwin%2Fsites%2F2%2F2014%2F01%2FRazer_2D00_Christine_2D00_Concept_2D00_Wide_2D00_1200h_5F00_61A90A38.jpg&hash=71dcd94b4a61dc65a2a4fe9301af3f0082bdad9e)

..would have been developed by the time I need a new computer/case.  But it looks like it's dead in the water.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Norgy on February 09, 2015, 05:38:52 AM
I think Thermaltake have some really expensive and silly ones.  :hug:
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: DontSayBanana on February 09, 2015, 01:22:24 PM
Quote from: Caliga on February 08, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Whenever I see a gaming nerd brag about how awesome their case looks, I reach for my Beretta.

Not to mention they're invariably wrong- they almost always say that about cases with transparent panels and effect lighting.

To me, those look like somebody took a game of Operation and ran neon lighting around it.  A pretty case is one that doesn't stand out (Mac G5 is one of the prettiest, in my book).
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Ed Anger on February 09, 2015, 01:45:08 PM
Quote from: Caliga on February 08, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
Whenever I see a gaming nerd brag about how awesome their case looks, I reach for my Beretta.

I GOTTA PUT THE GUN BACK TOGETHER
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: viper37 on February 09, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: Norgy on February 09, 2015, 05:38:52 AM
I think Thermaltake have some really expensive and silly ones.  :hug:
Level 10 Titanium Edition (http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Chassis/Full_Tower_/Level_10/C_00002458/Level_10_Titanium_Edition/design.htm)
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thermaltakeusa.com%2Fdb%2Fproducts%2Fcase%2FLevel10_Titanium%2Fmain.jpg&hash=de3309f81fe28ee5ae797b928b0b77c15f9ac9fd)
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: viper37 on February 09, 2015, 01:50:08 PM
Seriously, what I liked from Thermaltake cases is that for a while, they were the only ones to have USB, eSata, power button and headphones/microphones buttons on top of the case.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Tonitrus on February 09, 2015, 01:58:03 PM
I dunno, it's easy to make fun of the excess, but I've always thought computer cases have long been too cheaply made and poorly designed.  It seems like it should be very easy to make computer parts/assembly "hot swappable" and stupid easy to put together (for actual stupid/normal people, not the resident nerd mob).

Trying to cram a graphics card inside a cheap metal frame crammed with excess cables and force tiny, unwieldy screws into the right groove always seemed stupid to me. 
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: viper37 on February 09, 2015, 03:46:40 PM
engineers and programmers have never been too concerned with end-user needs.  In fact, they probably don't want you to change anything in your computer, just change the box, like you change a DVD player or a tv instead of upgrading it.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Barrister on February 10, 2015, 12:43:29 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on February 09, 2015, 01:58:03 PM
I dunno, it's easy to make fun of the excess, but I've always thought computer cases have long been too cheaply made and poorly designed.  It seems like it should be very easy to make computer parts/assembly "hot swappable" and stupid easy to put together (for actual stupid/normal people, not the resident nerd mob).

Trying to cram a graphics card inside a cheap metal frame crammed with excess cables and force tiny, unwieldy screws into the right groove always seemed stupid to me.

I think a computer case is very important.  I love my Mac Pro (which is the same case as the Mac G5 DSB mentioned, but with Intel chips) because of all the easy access it allows - drive are easily swappable, RAM and cards easily switchable, and of course, super, super quiet.

One of these days I'm going to pull the pin on a new computer, and right now I think I'll just go straight PC (I love OS X, but since I mostly use my computer for gaming, I spend 90%+ of the time on my Mac Pro in Windows), but I don't know where I'd find a case as nice as that on the PC side of things.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Caliga on February 10, 2015, 01:38:09 PM
Beeb, you can continue your lifelong love affair with Apple by sticking with their best product, the iPhone.  It's ok. :hug:
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: viper37 on February 10, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 10, 2015, 12:43:29 PM
but I don't know where I'd find a case as nice as that on the PC side of things.
This one is for micro-atx or itx cases:
http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/chassis/prodigy-m (http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/chassis/prodigy-m)

But you have the bigger Prodigy for regulard board:
http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/chassis/prodigy (http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/chassis/prodigy)

And you can look their other designs, there some pretty cool ones too, albeit different than the Mac G5/Pro.

You could build a Hackintosh too:
http://lifehacker.com/the-always-up-to-date-guide-to-building-a-hackintosh-o-5841604 (http://lifehacker.com/the-always-up-to-date-guide-to-building-a-hackintosh-o-5841604)
They seem to recommend this line of cases:
http://www.corsair.com/en-ca/cases/graphite-series (http://www.corsair.com/en-ca/cases/graphite-series)
Since they use a regular Intel board for i5-i7, it would of course work with Windows 10, and you could follow the guide to dual boot in OS X if you still want this.  Or go the easy way and use a Linux distro similar to OS X instead of the real OS X (like Zorin OS), it will be easier to install, requiring no 3rd party UFI boot loader.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Josquius on February 11, 2015, 02:18:26 AM
Cases are irrelevant for me. For 3 years I had a very old recycled ugly white thing. For one of
Those years it's power button had fell off
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Caliga on February 13, 2015, 06:46:52 AM
Ordered.  Upgraded the SSD to an 850 EVO and threw an ASUS DVD burner in too.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Caliga on February 21, 2015, 07:22:57 PM
In the process of building.  Everything's been tested except the video card and it's all working.  Windows installed already, doing drivers now.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: mongers on February 21, 2015, 08:17:10 PM
Have to say, this isn't as exciting as one of 11B4V's muscle car renovations.    :(
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Caliga on February 21, 2015, 09:03:46 PM
Sorry.  :(
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: mongers on February 21, 2015, 09:36:49 PM
Quote from: Caliga on February 21, 2015, 09:03:46 PM
Sorry.  :(

Well it needs a hook like DG's recent blockbuster, the one were he got everything in and working except the graphics card, and just as he was leaning in to fix it, he knocked a whole gallon of race engine oil into the case.  :)
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Caliga on February 21, 2015, 10:15:18 PM
Well unfortunately (for you) this has been the smoothest build I've ever done so far. :sleep:
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Caliga on February 22, 2015, 10:28:26 AM
Build done.  Only problem was that the front eSATA port has a molex power connector and for some reason I just couldn't get it to fit into one of the modular molex connectors on my PSU, so I just gave up (which saved me having to plug in a molex connector to the PSU anyway).  Princesca will never use the eSATA port, so no biggie.
Title: Re: new PC build
Post by: Grey Fox on February 22, 2015, 08:42:28 PM
Quote from: Caliga on February 22, 2015, 10:28:26 AM
Build done.  Only problem was that the front eSATA port has a molex power connector and for some reason I just couldn't get it to fit into one of the modular molex connectors on my PSU, so I just gave up (which saved me having to plug in a molex connector to the PSU anyway).  Princesca will never use the eSATA port, so no biggie.

No one uses eSATA for anhything. The spec has a 6.6ft max of cable length. That's just dumb.