Interesting article: http://www.chinafile.com/reporting-opinion/postcard/bro-code (contains a few NSFW pictures).
Quote from: the ArticleI had been doing the rounds of provincial cities as my boss' token foreigner for the whole summer, though, pitching training courses to the dim children of the rich so that they could study at foreign universities, and the routine of hard drinking followed by a group excursion to a brothel was becoming a familiar one. My status as a foreigner was enough to excuse me from the sex itself after only a light barrage of gay jokes from the others, but not from the social obligations around it.
Increasingly rare Japanese business outings always lead to large snacks (only the big wigs go to the true hostess clubs).
Seems to be the same thing only with sex being far more acknowledged and common
Quote from: Tyr on February 05, 2015, 01:33:04 PM
Increasingly rare Japanese business outings always lead to large snacks (only the big wigs go to the truth hostess clubs).
Seems to be the same thing only with sex being far more acknowledged and common
:unsure:
Quote from: Tyr on February 05, 2015, 01:33:04 PM
Increasingly rare Japanese business outings always lead to large snacks (only the big wigs go to the true hostess clubs).
What? :huh:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 05, 2015, 02:12:10 PM
Quote from: Tyr on February 05, 2015, 01:33:04 PM
Increasingly rare Japanese business outings always lead to large snacks (only the big wigs go to the true hostess clubs).
What? :huh:
Don't you know what "snacks" are? Or are you confused about the concept of "large"?
Do you live under a fucking rock?
I thought he was using another bizarre northern British slang/euphemism.
Euphemism for extra large bags of Doritos.
Quote from: Jacob on February 05, 2015, 02:16:35 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 05, 2015, 02:12:10 PM
Quote from: Tyr on February 05, 2015, 01:33:04 PM
Increasingly rare Japanese business outings always lead to large snacks (only the big wigs go to the true hostess clubs).
What? :huh:
Don't you know what "snacks" are? Or are you confused about the concept of "large"?
Do you live under a fucking rock?
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 05, 2015, 02:27:37 PM
I thought he was using another bizarre northern British slang/euphemism.
Err...no. Snacks are the most common sort of drinking place in Japan. Pay a large cover charge and a (supposedly) attractive girl keeps you company
Quote from: Tyr on February 06, 2015, 03:08:39 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 05, 2015, 02:27:37 PM
I thought he was using another bizarre northern British slang/euphemism.
Err...no. Snacks are the most common sort of drinking place in Japan. Pay a large cover charge and a (supposedly) attractive girl keeps you company
Okay, then you were using some bizarre Japanese slang. The end result is the same, the audience doesn't know what the hell you're talking about.
Damn. Tim is back in Amerika for a few days and he is all feisty and shit.
And over something stupid.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 06, 2015, 08:09:28 AM
Okay, then you were using some bizarre Japanese slang. The end result is the same, the audience doesn't know what the hell you're talking about.
It's not bizarre Japanese slang. Many of the signs for such places outright say 'snack', articles written about them call them snacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_and_hostess_clubs#Snack_bars
In Tim's defense, "large snacks" is not something you hear a lot, as it's sort of a contradiction in terms. And it does sound like a fun euphemism for something.
Quote from: derspiess on February 06, 2015, 01:10:47 PM
In Tim's defense, "large snacks" is not something you hear a lot, as it's sort of a contradiction in terms. And it does sound like a fun euphemism for something.
Well apparently it's a type of hostess bar.
Quote from: derspiess on February 06, 2015, 01:10:47 PM
In Tim's defense, "large snacks" is not something you hear a lot, as it's sort of a contradiction in terms. And it does sound like a fun euphemism for something.
Yes, I mean, I don't know why Jos would expect us all to know this but then I don't really know why Tim is attacking Jos for making an incomprehensible post. That's what Jos does.
I am so sad I clicked on that wiki link. A strip club with no stripping? Basically a club where pretty girls (or boys for the host clubs) are nice to you. Why not just be friends with some pretty people?
It's gotta be better than sitting at home with a anime-girl laden body pillow.
Quote from: Tonitrus on February 06, 2015, 01:18:04 PM
It's gotta be better than sitting at home with a anime-girl laden body pillow.
Well that's true.
Oh, I don't know.
I am sure Japan has combination cat/hostess bars too. :P
"I got a full jar of Pounce, and it's burning a hole in my pocket, baby."
People with experience of Asia would understand. And given the context that was the conversation. There really isn't a good English word for that kind of place.
Anyhoo. How can a thread about Chinese hookers turn into a semantic poo slinging fest? :(
Quote from: Tyr on February 06, 2015, 01:38:34 PM
People with experience of Asia would understand.
Is it because in their cultures of shame they long for acceptance? But I don't think Korea is like that, just Japan.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 06, 2015, 01:33:37 PM
"I got a full jar of Pounce, and it's burning a hole in my pocket, baby."
What the hell is this?
I don't recognize the quote.
Quote from: Tyr on February 06, 2015, 01:38:34 PM
People with experience of Asia would understand. And given the context that was the conversation. There really isn't a good English word for that kind of place.
Anyhoo. How can a thread about Chinese hookers turn into a semantic poo slinging fest? :(
It's the heat of the moment.
Quote from: garbon on February 06, 2015, 01:16:55 PM
Yes, I mean, I don't know why Jos would expect us all to know this but then I don't really know why Tim is attacking Jos for making an incomprehensible post. That's what Jos does.
Yeah, it's pretty funny :)
Quote from: Tyr on February 06, 2015, 01:38:34 PM
People with experience of Asia would understand. And given the context that was the conversation. There really isn't a good English word for that kind of place.
No, not really. I have plenty of experience in Asia - Japan, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong and even Korea. That does not mean I know that "snack" is a term for a particular sub-category of girly/hostess bar in Japan.
This also leaves out the fact that most of the people here - your audience - do not have experience with Asia at all.
For a U/X guy you seem unusually prone to obtuseness.
See I thought he meant you would understand the appeal of these clubs, not the reference.
Quote from: Valmy on February 06, 2015, 02:14:29 PM
See I thought he meant you would understand the appeal of these clubs, not the reference.
That's what I thought too.
I definitely understand the appeal of these clubs.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2015, 02:20:16 PM
I definitely understand the appeal of these clubs.
Explain. Why not just go to a strip club? They have those in Japan as well.
Quote from: Valmy on February 06, 2015, 01:39:48 PM
Quote from: Tyr on February 06, 2015, 01:38:34 PM
People with experience of Asia would understand.
Is it because in their cultures of shame they long for acceptance? But I don't think Korea is like that, just Japan.
Apparently in Korea, hostess bars are called "Room Salons" and even a quick perusal of the internet makes it pretty clear that depending on the establishment, different additional services may or may not be negotiable.
QuoteProstitution is illegal in South Korea, unfortunately it is also openly advertised on fliers that litter the street at night and on loud neon awnings that offer "massages." At room salons (aka hostess clubs) men will have the pleasure of chatting and drinking with beautiful women, as well as their "services." There is also semi prostitution with differing levels, including businesses that sell make-out sessions. This type of illegal lust is part of the dark side of Korea that no one likes to talk about. It's kept hidden away from non-Koreans to portray the squeaky clean image that Korea wants. But pretty soon, the undergrowth of Korea's sex world becomes more and more evident, and soon you start to realize that sex sells (literally) on nearly every street corner.
http://seoulistic.com/travel-to-korea/7-deadly-sins-seoul-lust-clubs-bars-and-sex/
I don't think it has anything to do with "cultures of shame" and everything to do with displays of status and the enjoyment of flirting and sex.
Quote from: Valmy on February 06, 2015, 02:22:12 PM
Explain. Why not just go to a strip club? They have those in Japan as well.
More social interaction in a hostess club.
Quote from: Jacob on February 06, 2015, 02:23:09 PM
I don't think it has anything to do with "cultures of shame" and everything to do with displays of status and the enjoyment of flirting and sex.
Wait so I need an understanding of Asian culture to understand prostitution rackets? Pretty sure we have those everywhere.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2015, 02:24:24 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 06, 2015, 02:22:12 PM
Explain. Why not just go to a strip club? They have those in Japan as well.
More social interaction in a hostess club.
The dancers will talk with you and do all that crap. Or at least so my friends tell me.
Quote from: Valmy on February 06, 2015, 02:28:01 PM
The dancers will talk with you and do all that crap. Or at least so my friends tell me.
Dancers will give you an extended sales pitch for lap dances/private dances.
Quote from: Valmy on February 06, 2015, 02:22:12 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2015, 02:20:16 PM
I definitely understand the appeal of these clubs.
Explain. Why not just go to a strip club? They have those in Japan as well.
You phrase that as if stripping as a way of perving on pretty girls for money and negotiating sexual services is somehow simpler and more natural than hostess bars or any of the other variations elsewhere.
High level they're the same thing - you go to a place where there are pretty girls; they will pay some attention to you; and further services of different kinds are negotiable.
Hostess bars et. al. have a bit more of individualized attention, simulating hook-ups and dating, while strip clubs have more of a "watching a show" vibe, while Karaoke Clubs (of that certain kind) have more of a "partying together" vibe. In the end, however, it's about spending money for female attention and getting your rocks off.
As for going to a hostess bar where there are no sexual services available, the parallel is not "going to the strip club", it's going to Hooters or the Tilted Kilt or any of those upscale lounge places where they have minimum neck-line-plunge and above-the-knee requirements for the pretty waitresses.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2015, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 06, 2015, 02:28:01 PM
The dancers will talk with you and do all that crap. Or at least so my friends tell me.
Dancers will give you an extended sales pitch for lap dances/private dances.
And the hostesses will try to get you to do things to get money out of you as well. Or at least that is what the wiki page says.
Snacks aren't hostess clubs. Sort of.
As I say whether the girl is attractive isn't necessarily so. I actually have a few female friends who work/have worked in such places and they aren't whores (well, except my ex, duh).
My first experience with one was actually by mistake, me and some friends thought it was just a cool little Japanese bar only to be hit by a $20 cover for our 1 beer each.
The standard of snacks is a little box room with only bar seating, maybe 6 customers or so at a time.
These ones I went to when I worked with a Japanese company....I guess some were of a somewhat different genre, Philippine Clubs. But some used the name snack; Big places where as well as the bar women there are women paid to mingle with the guests, pour them drinks, listen to them bitch about their boss, etc...
Hostess bars are pretty famous and I'm sure everyone knows those at least. Snacks...They're similar but much cheaper and more casual.
The company I worked for in Japan wasn't exactly top class afterall.
Quote from: Jacob on February 06, 2015, 02:30:20 PM
As for going to a hostess bar where there are no sexual services available, the parallel is not "going to the strip club", it's going to Hooters or the Tilted Kilt or any of those upscale lounge places where they have minimum neck-line-plunge and above-the-knee requirements for the pretty waitresses.
Ah gotcha. See? That was not so hard for somebody not from Asia to understand.
Quote from: Valmy on February 06, 2015, 02:27:24 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 06, 2015, 02:23:09 PM
I don't think it has anything to do with "cultures of shame" and everything to do with displays of status and the enjoyment of flirting and sex.
Wait so I need an understanding of Asian culture to understand prostitution rackets? Pretty sure we have those everywhere.
:huh:
That's kind of the opposite of what I was saying. First off, I think the various forms of prostitution in Asia are driven by the same impulses as drive the ones in the West (so no specific Asian cultural understanding required), and secondly I think the whole "culture of shame" concept isn't particularly relevant to understanding the regional differences between prostitution.
Quote from: Valmy on February 06, 2015, 02:34:36 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 06, 2015, 02:30:20 PM
As for going to a hostess bar where there are no sexual services available, the parallel is not "going to the strip club", it's going to Hooters or the Tilted Kilt or any of those upscale lounge places where they have minimum neck-line-plunge and above-the-knee requirements for the pretty waitresses.
Ah gotcha. See? That was not so hard for somebody not from Asia to understand.
:hug:
I think the culture of shame thing is somewhat relevant to prostitution.
In Japan it is sort of expected that your husband will cheat. The key is; will the wife/her friends find out.
Wheras in the west we come from a cultural background of "The great beyond will see me and judge me", in Asia its more about actually being seen and the community finding out.
Which is probably key to why professionals are so in demand rather than doing it the normal way
They do have quite a different approach to such things.
Quotesecondly I think the whole "culture of shame" concept isn't particularly relevant to understanding the regional differences between prostitution.
Why do you keep harping on this? I brought it up once a wild guess and then immediately said it probably did not apply to Korea so probably was not the reason. Does Japan not have a shame based culture?
Quote from: Valmy on February 06, 2015, 02:33:33 PM
And the hostesses will try to get you to do things to get money out of you as well. Or at least that is what the wiki page says.
I've been to a room salon about 10 times and the price has always been fixed. The girls might hustle for a bigger tip, but hustling consists of doing their job.
Quote from: Tyr on February 06, 2015, 02:34:05 PM
Snacks aren't hostess clubs. Sort of.
As I say whether the girl is attractive isn't necessarily so. I actually have a few female friends who work/have worked in such places and they aren't whores (well, except my ex, duh).
My first experience with one was actually by mistake, me and some friends thought it was just a cool little Japanese bar only to be hit by a $20 cover for our 1 beer each.
The standard of snacks is a little box room with only bar seating, maybe 6 customers or so at a time.
These ones I went to when I worked with a Japanese company....I guess some were of a somewhat different genre, Philippine Clubs. But some used the name snack; Big places where as well as the bar women there are women paid to mingle with the guests, pour them drinks, listen to them bitch about their boss, etc...
Hostess bars are pretty famous and I'm sure everyone knows those at least. Snacks...They're similar but much cheaper and more casual.
The company I worked for in Japan wasn't exactly top class afterall.
Intersting!
I think I accidentally went to one some years back in Takayama, with a couple of American blokes I met at the place I was staying.
It was a tiny little bar on the second floor, with maybe 8 barstools and a bar. The lady was older and dressed a little provocatively, and she was quite friendly (in a chatty sort of way, no innuendo; though if she'd been hotter and younger it may have worked differently). After a few drinks, she turned on the karaoke screen and went straight to Hotel California. That was the young Americans' first exposure to karaoke, and it was a big hit. We got very verydrunk, and I honestly have no idea if we paid a cover charge when we settled the bill.
... if that's what a snack is, it seems to me to be that they ensure that the staff is female and friendly and actively trying to make sure you enjoy yourself. There was nothing sexual about it, but it was a good time; paying a bit extra for that doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
Quote from: Valmy on February 06, 2015, 02:37:00 PM
Why do you keep harping on this? I brought it up once a wild guess and then immediately said it probably did not apply to Korea so probably was not the reason. Does Japan not have a shame based culture?
I thought were the one harping on it :lol: - I'm happy to let it lie.
Quote from: Jacob on February 06, 2015, 02:50:12 PM
I thought were the one harping on it :lol: - I'm happy to let it lie.
:hug:
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Quote from: Jacob on February 06, 2015, 02:47:11 PM
Intersting!
I think I accidentally went to one some years back in Takayama, with a couple of American blokes I met at the place I was staying.
It was a tiny little bar on the second floor, with maybe 8 barstools and a bar. The lady was older and dressed a little provocatively, and she was quite friendly (in a chatty sort of way, no innuendo; though if she'd been hotter and younger it may have worked differently). After a few drinks, she turned on the karaoke screen and went straight to Hotel California. That was the young Americans' first exposure to karaoke, and it was a big hit. We got very verydrunk, and I honestly have no idea if we paid a cover charge when we settled the bill.
... if that's what a snack is, it seems to me to be that they ensure that the staff is female and friendly and actively trying to make sure you enjoy yourself. There was nothing sexual about it, but it was a good time; paying a bit extra for that doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
Sounds like a snack.
Karaoke is often a key component of snacks.
The one I went to my first time.... a bit bigger than just a bar, it also had 2 tables for 4.
I recall a friend asking if they had nomihodai/all you can drink and she was told they have all you can sing. And by entering and ordering we were allowed one free song. We ordered obscure, awesome stuff. Not standard snack-karaoke fayre.
The barmaid as reasonably young and seemed so friendly and cool but she was just dressed pretty normally. The usual pub I went to in my city also had young, cool barmaids and is a pretty normal pub in the western sense, so I thought nothing of it. Afterall, university students are the usual workers in bars, no?
We saw in the menu a beer was 600 and thought that was quite reasonable until the bill hit us. Not a huge amount in the grand scale but the principle angered me and really put me off further experimentation with random Japanese bars.
Takayama is the last place I would associate with such vulgar representations of modern Japan though! I guess what with the Japanese definition of city you weren't in the touristy bit?
Some argue using the 2nd bomb on Nagasnaki was overkill.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 06, 2015, 03:01:37 PM
Some argue using the 2nd bomb on Nagasnaki was overkill.
I'm wondering if I would feel sadder paying someone to talk to me vs. paying someone for sex.
Should have been Kokura. That place is a shit hole.
Nagasaki rules.
Well maybe it used to be a shit hole and they made it better once we blew it up.
Quote from: Tyr on February 06, 2015, 02:56:46 PMTakayama is the last place I would associate with such vulgar representations of modern Japan though! I guess what with the Japanese definition of city you weren't in the touristy bit?
My guess is that the money->companionship aspect of modern Japan can be found pretty much everywhere in the country.
But yeah, we weren't in the touristy bit AFAIK (not that there's much of that in Takayama other than the historical village, IIRC).
Quote from: garbon on February 06, 2015, 03:02:53 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 06, 2015, 03:01:37 PM
Some argue using the 2nd bomb on Nagasnaki was overkill.
I'm wondering if I would feel sadder paying someone to talk to me vs. paying someone for sex.
Well, I believe the talking to you part is included in the fees so it's easier to rationalize as "we're at an expensive place where the staff just happens to be attractive and nice" rather than "I have to pay for this."
Also, I believe, in most cases the "talking to" things are frequently more of a group outing which tend to obscure feelings of sadness.
Quote from: Tyr on February 06, 2015, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 06, 2015, 08:09:28 AM
Okay, then you were using some bizarre Japanese slang. The end result is the same, the audience doesn't know what the hell you're talking about.
It's not bizarre Japanese slang. Many of the signs for such places outright say 'snack', articles written about them call them snacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_and_hostess_clubs#Snack_bars
Chinglish, Konglish, Japlish, it doesn't matter how common it is in every day use in that country it's still slang Tyr, and it's beyond unreasonable to expect anlgophones who haven't lived in that country to know it.
Quote from: Tyr on February 06, 2015, 02:56:46 PM
Takayama is the last place I would associate with such vulgar representations of modern Japan though! I guess what with the Japanese definition of city you weren't in the touristy bit?
Christ, don't go full Lettow on us. :bleeding:
Quote from: Jacob on February 06, 2015, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 06, 2015, 03:02:53 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 06, 2015, 03:01:37 PM
Some argue using the 2nd bomb on Nagasnaki was overkill.
I'm wondering if I would feel sadder paying someone to talk to me vs. paying someone for sex.
Well, I believe the talking to you part is included in the fees so it's easier to rationalize as "we're at an expensive place where the staff just happens to be attractive and nice" rather than "I have to pay for this."
Also, I believe, in most cases the "talking to" things are frequently more of a group outing which tend to obscure feelings of sadness.
Okay under that description, I think I would just feel sleazy. -_-
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 06, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
Quote from: Tyr on February 06, 2015, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 06, 2015, 08:09:28 AM
Okay, then you were using some bizarre Japanese slang. The end result is the same, the audience doesn't know what the hell you're talking about.
It's not bizarre Japanese slang. Many of the signs for such places outright say 'snack', articles written about them call them snacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_and_hostess_clubs#Snack_bars
Chinglish, Konglish, Japlish, it doesn't matter how common it is in every day use in that country it's still slang Tyr, and it's beyond unreasonable to expect anlgophones who haven't lived in that country to know it.
Yeah I don't know of these snacks. Of course, I only know of hostess bars as the video game series Yakuza required your character to go to them. -_-
People, people...
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 06, 2015, 03:01:37 PM
Some argue using the 2nd bomb on Nagasnaki was overkill.
It's not slang :lol:
It may be a Japanese term unfamiliar to those who don't know much about Japan but that doesn't make it slang.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 06, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
Chinglish, Konglish, Japlish, it doesn't matter how common it is in every day use in that country it's still slang Tyr, and it's beyond unreasonable to expect anlgophones who haven't lived in that country to know it.
... but what if it appears in a poorly animated grainy black and white gif?
Quote from: garbon on February 06, 2015, 03:26:14 PM
Okay under that description, I think I would just feel sleazy. -_-
Which is kind of the point, I believe.
The hostess club sounds like the most depressing thing ever. :(
Girls paid to be nice to you, in the company of your fellow salarymen, with your company picking up the tab? Ugh.
Quote from: Malthus on February 06, 2015, 04:22:26 PM
The hostess club sounds like the most depressing thing ever. :(
Girls paid to be nice to you, in the company of your fellow salarymen, with your company picking up the tab? Ugh.
:huh: Auschwitz?
Quote from: The Brain on February 06, 2015, 04:36:57 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 06, 2015, 04:22:26 PM
The hostess club sounds like the most depressing thing ever. :(
Girls paid to be nice to you, in the company of your fellow salarymen, with your company picking up the tab? Ugh.
:huh: Auschwitz?
Naw, I don't think they had girls paid to be nice to you there. :hmm:
Maybe they did, if you were Swedish. :) And had the same tastes as Ide. :D
Wow ok Swedes taking sex vacations to Auschwitz does sound like the most depressing thing ever.
Quote from: Valmy on February 06, 2015, 04:58:48 PM
Wow ok Swedes taking sex vacations to Auschwitz does sound like the most depressing thing ever.
Paid for in ball bearings. :(
Quote from: The Brain on February 06, 2015, 04:36:25 PM
You explain your jokes? :huh:
When nobody notices. :mad:
Quote from: Malthus on February 06, 2015, 04:22:26 PM
The hostess club sounds like the most depressing thing ever. :(
Girls paid to be nice to you, in the company of your fellow salarymen, with your company picking up the tab? Ugh.
Only slightly less depressing than not getting laid at all. ;)
There used to be a lot of these hostess clubs in HK in the 80s and 90s. We called them "places where gold is burnt". They charge astronomical prices because the expenses are paid for by big companies. That's where the big business deals were made.
But that is largely a thing of the past. People now go to China and Macau for these.
Quote from: Monoriu on February 06, 2015, 07:26:44 PM
There used to be a lot of these hostess clubs in HK in the 80s and 90s. We called them "places where gold is burnt". They charge astronomical prices because the expenses are paid for by big companies. That's where the big business deals were made.
But that is largely a thing of the past. People now go to China and Macau for these.
There are still a number of high end places in Hong Kong, at least a few years ago. Of course, they're mostly staffed by mainlanders, but they're definitely there.
Quote from: Tyr on February 06, 2015, 02:34:05 PM
I actually have a few female friends who work/have worked in such places and they aren't whores (well, except my ex, duh).
Did you know she was a whore when you were dating her?
If so, did you pay her to date you?
If not, how did you find out?
Those are great questions Peter!
Quote from: Jacob on February 07, 2015, 01:55:43 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on February 06, 2015, 07:26:44 PM
There used to be a lot of these hostess clubs in HK in the 80s and 90s. We called them "places where gold is burnt". They charge astronomical prices because the expenses are paid for by big companies. That's where the big business deals were made.
But that is largely a thing of the past. People now go to China and Macau for these.
There are still a number of high end places in Hong Kong, at least a few years ago. Of course, they're mostly staffed by mainlanders, but they're definitely there.
I of course have no experience with such places, and will gladly admit that others know much more about the subject :contract:
Quote from: Tyr on February 06, 2015, 03:31:44 PM
It's not slang :lol:
It may be a Japanese term unfamiliar to those who don't know much about Japan but that doesn't make it slang.
What does "snack" translate to in English, if it is a formal word?
No, it's fake english. The word sounds like "Sunakku." Instead of "Generic Name Bar" or "Generic Name Lounge" or so on, it is "Generic Name Snack".
There is nothing to recommend such a place, which contains a crass lewdness lacking even the exotic sense of taboo that might entice the unwary. Bleak, for women who weren't pretty enough for hostess bars and men who can't afford them.
CLIMB MOUNT SNACKTAKA