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Title: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2015, 07:43:30 AM
You hear that, colonizers? 

QuoteFiji Will Drop Union Jack From Its Flag, Premier Says
New York Times

HONG KONG — Fiji will replace its national flag this year to remove symbols of British colonialism, Prime Minister Frank Bainimarama announced Tuesday.

Upon independence in 1970, the Pacific island nation adopted a flag closely modeled after its colonial-era banner, with a British Union Flag in the upper left corner and a shield with symbols including the British lion and the Cross of St. George in its right half.

"They are the symbols of the colonizer — Britain — a country with whom we are friends and will continue to be so," Mr. Bainimarama said. "But they are not symbols that are relevant to any Fijian in the 21st century. And they should go."

The Union Flag, also known as the Union Jack, appears on the flags of a variety of territories and provinces, as well as a handful of national flags of former British colonies. One of those countries, New Zealand, could drop the Union Jack from its flag pending the outcome of two referendums, to be held this year and next.

Mr. Bainimarama said Fiji would begin soliciting citizens' suggestions for a new design with "indigenous and truly Fijian symbols of identity." He said he hoped the final result would retain the existing "Fiji blue" background but remove the Union Flag and colonial shield.

A government-selected citizens' panel will choose a final design, with plans to complete the process in time for Oct. 10, when Fiji marks 45 years of independence.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Syt on February 04, 2015, 07:51:37 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2015, 07:43:30 AMPrime Minister Frank Bainimarama

I liked his songs "Cruel Summer" and "Robert De Niro's Waiting."
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Caliga on February 04, 2015, 07:54:56 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2015, 07:58:59 AM
"Cruel Summer" rocked.  :mad:
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: derspiess on February 04, 2015, 09:44:44 AM
Bula Vinaka, Beachside!
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Valmy on February 04, 2015, 09:50:32 AM
New Zealand's proposed flags are truly horrible.  Don't make a rash decision just because you are tired of being mistaken for Australia Kiwis!
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Sheilbh on February 04, 2015, 09:52:19 AM
Quote from: Valmy on February 04, 2015, 09:50:32 AM
New Zealand's proposed flags are truly horrible.  Don't make a rash decision just because you are tired of being mistaken for Australia Kiwis!
I love the silver fern:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F3%2F34%2FSilver_fern_flag.svg%2F220px-Silver_fern_flag.svg.png&hash=454b25ba65a60cd5cf687c87a51c86f29d9ce47c)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: garbon on February 04, 2015, 09:57:27 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 04, 2015, 09:52:19 AM
Quote from: Valmy on February 04, 2015, 09:50:32 AM
New Zealand's proposed flags are truly horrible.  Don't make a rash decision just because you are tired of being mistaken for Australia Kiwis!
I love the silver fern:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F3%2F34%2FSilver_fern_flag.svg%2F220px-Silver_fern_flag.svg.png&hash=454b25ba65a60cd5cf687c87a51c86f29d9ce47c)

I think Valmy already covered that when he said 'horrible'. :D
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Grey Fox on February 04, 2015, 09:58:42 AM
Black on flags is an abomination.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: PJL on February 04, 2015, 10:07:19 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 04, 2015, 09:52:19 AM
Quote from: Valmy on February 04, 2015, 09:50:32 AM
New Zealand's proposed flags are truly horrible.  Don't make a rash decision just because you are tired of being mistaken for Australia Kiwis!
I love the silver fern:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F3%2F34%2FSilver_fern_flag.svg%2F220px-Silver_fern_flag.svg.png&hash=454b25ba65a60cd5cf687c87a51c86f29d9ce47c)

I think it would looks even better with the Southern Cross. Plus it'll also be reminiscent of the flag of Gondor too.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: derspiess on February 04, 2015, 10:09:57 AM
Looks like some SS unit symbol.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Ed Anger on February 04, 2015, 10:12:39 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 04, 2015, 10:09:57 AM
Looks like some SS unit symbol.

Lolz
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Capetan Mihali on February 04, 2015, 10:13:39 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 04, 2015, 10:09:57 AM
Looks like some SS unit symbol.

SS Totensfern -- the New Zealand volunteer unit in some horrible alt-history novel.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2015, 10:19:48 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 04, 2015, 10:13:39 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 04, 2015, 10:09:57 AM
Looks like some SS unit symbol.

SS Totensfern -- the New Zealand volunteer unit in some horrible alt-history novel.

Wrong, that's the 29th Panzer, "SS Quill Division"
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: derspiess on February 04, 2015, 10:33:51 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2015, 10:19:48 AM
Wrong, that's the 29th Panzer, "SS Quill Division"

Lol armored Nazi accountants.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Ed Anger on February 04, 2015, 10:34:26 AM
Work will set you free
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Syt on February 04, 2015, 10:37:58 AM
SS Poetry Division
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Capetan Mihali on February 04, 2015, 10:41:03 AM
Quote from: Syt on February 04, 2015, 10:37:58 AM
SS Poetry Division

"Stefan George"
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Ed Anger on February 04, 2015, 10:42:26 AM
Horst Wessel Dirty Limerick Division
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Siege on February 04, 2015, 12:41:39 PM
New Zealand's flag should be the hand of Saruman.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Josquius on February 04, 2015, 05:22:24 PM
Fiji having the union flag does seem a bit silly.
NZ should keep it though.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 04, 2015, 05:25:47 PM
RACISS!
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: mongers on February 04, 2015, 05:27:36 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 04, 2015, 12:41:39 PM
New Zealand's flag should be the hand of Saruman.

Silly, that's Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Razgovory on February 04, 2015, 06:31:16 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 04, 2015, 05:25:47 PM
RACISS!

"The Union flag is not for brown people.  It's crosses appeal to Zionist sky fairies and thus inappropriate for the noble savage of Fiji.  Hopefully a good indigenous flag will appear to butt out the flag that doesn't play nice with local flags.  Like a Buddhist flag or something".
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Barrister on February 04, 2015, 06:45:48 PM
I wish Canada had kept the Red Ensign. :(
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: viper37 on February 04, 2015, 07:35:26 PM
I'm surprised the Canadian government doesn't want to bring back this one:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Canadian_Red_Ensign_1957-1965.svg/1000px-Canadian_Red_Ensign_1957-1965.svg.png)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: viper37 on February 04, 2015, 07:36:05 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 04, 2015, 06:45:48 PM
I wish Canada had kept the Red Ensign. :(
see?  I guessed it even without reading through the entire thread! :P
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: PRC on February 04, 2015, 07:51:55 PM
It's still on BCs flag.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fb%2Fb8%2FFlag_of_British_Columbia.svg%2F250px-Flag_of_British_Columbia.svg.png&hash=0423ae33cc12300882de0bf0253cb932a601e2c6)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: dps on February 04, 2015, 08:28:04 PM
Ugh.  That's almost as bad as some of our state flags.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: PDH on February 04, 2015, 10:00:08 PM
Hawai'i's flag has the Union Jack in it.

(I spelled it the Hawaiian way for the two apostrophes in a row)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Barrister on February 04, 2015, 10:52:37 PM
Quote from: dps on February 04, 2015, 08:28:04 PM
Ugh.  That's almost as bad as some of our state flags.

I'll give you that BC's flag is dreadful.

But several provinces have incorporated the Union Jack, or in Nova Scotia's case the cross of St Andrews, in pretty ways.

Alberta's flag, for the record, is dreadfully boring.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 08:38:34 AM
Quote from: viper37 on February 04, 2015, 07:36:05 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 04, 2015, 06:45:48 PM
I wish Canada had kept the Red Ensign. :(
see?  I guessed it even without reading through the entire thread! :P

Since there are no symbols of Ancien Regime France on Quebec's flag I can see why you are so smug about this.

Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: viper37 on February 05, 2015, 02:53:47 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 08:38:34 AM
Quote from: viper37 on February 04, 2015, 07:36:05 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 04, 2015, 06:45:48 PM
I wish Canada had kept the Red Ensign. :(
see?  I guessed it even without reading through the entire thread! :P

Since there are no symbols of Ancien Regime France on Quebec's flag I can see why you are so smug about this.


the equivalent you're searching for would be the Acadian flag.

In any case, Quebec does not aspire to be a French colony, dependant on the French King.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Razgovory on February 05, 2015, 02:55:59 PM
What does it aspire to be?
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 03:49:14 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 05, 2015, 02:53:47 PM
the equivalent you're searching for would be the Acadian flag.

In any case, Quebec does not aspire to be a French colony, dependant on the French King.

The "Queen of Canada" is nothing more than a mascot.

Anyway I could never say anything mean about the Acadian flag :wub:
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Jacob on February 05, 2015, 04:07:52 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 04, 2015, 10:52:37 PM
I'll give you that BC's flag is dreadful.

Fuck both of you.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: derspiess on February 05, 2015, 04:10:54 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 05, 2015, 04:07:52 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 04, 2015, 10:52:37 PM
I'll give you that BC's flag is dreadful.

Fuck both of you.

It's kind of cool in a way, but it looks like they couldn't decide between two flags and decided to go with both.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 04:12:57 PM
Looks like a 5 year old drew it.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 04:13:23 PM
Vancouver sucks.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 04:13:34 PM
Canada sucks.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 04:17:23 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 05, 2015, 04:07:52 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 04, 2015, 10:52:37 PM
I'll give you that BC's flag is dreadful.

Fuck both of you.

Jacob tears up whenever he sees it waving proudly over Vancouver Island.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: garbon on February 05, 2015, 04:21:09 PM
I did find his reaction to be...curious.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Malthus on February 05, 2015, 04:28:54 PM
The Ontario Flag has the Union Jack.

For sheer uglyness, though, few flags beat the Toronto flag - which does not.  ;)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: mongers on February 05, 2015, 04:31:33 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 05, 2015, 04:28:54 PM
The Ontario Flag has the Union Jack.

For sheer uglyness, though, few flags beat the Toronto flag - which does not.  ;)

:huh:

It looks like an animation of someone unzipping his/her jeans and it being censored just at the crucial moment.   
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Barrister on February 05, 2015, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 05, 2015, 04:31:33 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 05, 2015, 04:28:54 PM
The Ontario Flag has the Union Jack.

For sheer uglyness, though, few flags beat the Toronto flag - which does not.  ;)

:huh:

It looks like an animation of someone unzipping his/her jeans and it being censored just at the crucial moment.

I've never seen the Toronto City flag before, so I googled it.

That's exactly what it looks like!  :lol:
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Malthus on February 05, 2015, 04:36:02 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 05, 2015, 04:31:33 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 05, 2015, 04:28:54 PM
The Ontario Flag has the Union Jack.

For sheer uglyness, though, few flags beat the Toronto flag - which does not.  ;)

:huh:

It looks like an animation of someone unzipping his/her jeans and it being censored just at the crucial moment.

:lol:

Pretty well exactly what I think of it (or, "a naked person's legs, wearing a maple leaf instead of the more traditional fig leaf").

Needless to say, it was a flag chosen by a committee - a fact that belongs on one of those "demotivator" posters.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 04:37:39 PM
Oh wow it really does.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F3%2F30%2FToronto_Flag.svg%2F300px-Toronto_Flag.svg.png&hash=99d31b31a057453d0e5e1139a71883c0ab656f5d)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Malthus on February 05, 2015, 04:40:11 PM
Now perhaps you guys can appreciate why some of us like traditional flag designs based on the Union Jack - at least in that case, we won't end up saluting a modern committee-chosen abortion like that.  ;)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: celedhring on February 05, 2015, 04:40:46 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 04:37:39 PM
Oh wow it really does.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F3%2F30%2FToronto_Flag.svg%2F300px-Toronto_Flag.svg.png&hash=99d31b31a057453d0e5e1139a71883c0ab656f5d)

And that's why feudalism was a good thing, at the end.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: garbon on February 05, 2015, 04:40:48 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogto.com%2Fupload%2F2012%2F02%2F20120228-Flag-Cartoon.jpg&hash=1a9e5ea27b847d516be44642eca20f47e2b3efd8)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 04:41:03 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 05, 2015, 04:40:11 PM
Now perhaps you guys can appreciate why some of us like traditional flag designs based on the Union Jack - at least in that case, we won't end up saluting a modern committee-chosen abortion like that.  ;)

Or like that New Zealand thing.  It looks like a corporate logo.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: dps on February 05, 2015, 04:44:36 PM
Hmm.  Corporate logo, or SS PanzerArmee insignia? 
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: The Brain on February 05, 2015, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 04:37:39 PM
Oh wow it really does.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F3%2F30%2FToronto_Flag.svg%2F300px-Toronto_Flag.svg.png&hash=99d31b31a057453d0e5e1139a71883c0ab656f5d)

Can what has been seen be unseen?
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Siege on February 05, 2015, 04:47:52 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftpc.pc2.netdna-cdn.com%2Fimages%2Fvarious_uploads%2FFlag_DC_Star.jpg&hash=452e69cc18f79ba7c2eadd0cb216c4ade3b99bca)

The US flag with an extra star for DC, eating the rest of the country, because we know people inside the beltway are more equal.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 04:49:23 PM
People inside the beltway get to pay federal taxes with no representation in Congress or the Senate.  That is kind of weird place for the master race to be in.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: garbon on February 05, 2015, 04:49:40 PM
Actually before we judge Toronto so harshly, look at the other submissions...

http://www.blogto.com/city/2012/03/what_the_toronto_flag_might_have_looked_like/
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2015, 04:50:06 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2015, 04:47:52 PM
The US flag with an extra star for DC, eating the rest of the country, because we know people inside the beltway are more equal.

Inside the Beltway includes a big chunk of Maryland and Virginia.

If you mean residents of DC, they are less equal because they have no representation in the Senate.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 04:52:19 PM
Well I guess they do have a House Representative, they just cannot vote.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2015, 04:53:28 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 04:52:19 PM
Well I guess they do have a House Representative, they just cannot vote.

I thinks she might be allowed to vote on DC matters.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2015, 04:49:40 PM
Actually before we judge Toronto so harshly, look at the other submissions...

http://www.blogto.com/city/2012/03/what_the_toronto_flag_might_have_looked_like/

A few of those are better, but that is not saying much.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Malthus on February 05, 2015, 05:00:36 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2015, 04:49:40 PM
Actually before we judge Toronto so harshly, look at the other submissions...

http://www.blogto.com/city/2012/03/what_the_toronto_flag_might_have_looked_like/

A few of those are better, but that is not saying much.

Before this flag, the flag was just the city's old coat of arms. Which was actually rather attractive, if a trifle busy for a flag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Old_Coat_of_Arms.jpg

Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Barrister on February 05, 2015, 05:02:46 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 05, 2015, 05:00:36 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2015, 04:49:40 PM
Actually before we judge Toronto so harshly, look at the other submissions...

http://www.blogto.com/city/2012/03/what_the_toronto_flag_might_have_looked_like/

A few of those are better, but that is not saying much.

Before this flag, the flag was just the city's old coat of arms. Which was actually rather attractive, if a trifle busy for a flag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Old_Coat_of_Arms.jpg

Here's Edmonton, which is the same basic idea.  It's obviously riffing off of the national flag, but that's not a terrible thing.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFlag_of_Edmonton%23mediaviewer%2FFile%3AFlag_of_Edmonton.svg&hash=8240d5875e324ac70078df1f6cebd1b7d9dbb5f9)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Tonitrus on February 05, 2015, 05:16:29 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 05, 2015, 05:00:36 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2015, 04:49:40 PM
Actually before we judge Toronto so harshly, look at the other submissions...

http://www.blogto.com/city/2012/03/what_the_toronto_flag_might_have_looked_like/

A few of those are better, but that is not saying much.

Before this flag, the flag was just the city's old coat of arms. Which was actually rather attractive, if a trifle busy for a flag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Old_Coat_of_Arms.jpg

The Crown has a mighty fine beaver.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Barrister on February 05, 2015, 05:27:27 PM
Hey man - this country was built by beaver pelts. :mad:
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Jacob on February 05, 2015, 05:31:38 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 04:12:57 PM
Looks like a 5 year old drew it.

Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 04:13:23 PM
Vancouver sucks.

Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 04:13:34 PM
Canada sucks.

:console:
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Jacob on February 05, 2015, 05:32:22 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2015, 04:21:09 PM
I did find his reaction to be...curious.

I fear I'm ever so slowly morphing into a BC nationalist...
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Malthus on February 05, 2015, 05:33:14 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2015, 05:27:27 PM
Hey man - this country was built by beaver pelts. :mad:

It is sad to think that they are so often shaved these days.  :(
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: viper37 on February 05, 2015, 05:38:00 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 03:49:14 PM
The "Queen of Canada" is nothing more than a mascot.
Just like the Confederate flag is a simple relic :)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: dps on February 05, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 05, 2015, 05:33:14 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2015, 05:27:27 PM
Hey man - this country was built by beaver pelts. :mad:

It is sad to think that they are so often shaved these days.  :(

Wasn't the idea always to get the fur off them?









;)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 07:25:41 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 05, 2015, 05:31:38 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 04:12:57 PM
Looks like a 5 year old drew it.

Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 04:13:23 PM
Vancouver sucks.

Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 04:13:34 PM
Canada sucks.

:console:

I blame the cough syurp.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 07:51:05 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 05, 2015, 05:38:00 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 03:49:14 PM
The "Queen of Canada" is nothing more than a mascot.
Just like the Confederate flag is a simple relic :)

I haven't heard anybody saying we have the six flags of Texas means we are Confederates.  Yet you seem to think so.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 05, 2015, 08:05:01 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 07:51:05 PM
I haven't heard anybody saying we have the six flags of Texas means we are Confederates.  Yet you seem to think so.

Creppy old man dancing in those commercials was creepy.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 08:10:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 05, 2015, 08:05:01 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 07:51:05 PM
I haven't heard anybody saying we have the six flags of Texas means we are Confederates.  Yet you seem to think so.

Creppy old man dancing in those commercials was creepy.

That old man had some sweet moves.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Capetan Mihali on February 05, 2015, 08:55:07 PM
 :lol: Mr. Six.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com%2Fpoststar.com%2Fcontent%2Ftncms%2Fassets%2Fv3%2Feditorial%2F2%2Fff%2F2ff88cd7-c859-5909-99d5-bf0e2c985a74%2F4e397e52187e4.image.jpg&hash=513135056349df984e562c7760efcda29555db22)

One of America's most hated mascots, apparently.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: garbon on February 05, 2015, 08:56:50 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 05, 2015, 08:55:07 PM
One of America's most hated mascots, apparently.

So fair.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2015, 08:59:19 PM
Is he the mascot for Six Flags Over Texas?

I've been there, a thousand years ago.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Grey Fox on February 05, 2015, 09:18:31 PM
We've been thru this before but my suburb has the ugliest flag.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: viper37 on February 06, 2015, 02:30:17 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 07:51:05 PM
I haven't heard anybody saying we have the six flags of Texas means we are Confederates.  Yet you seem to think so.
Symbols of the Confederacy remain a contentious issue across the United States and their civic placement has been debated vigorously in many Southern state legislatures since the 1990s.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Valmy on February 06, 2015, 02:39:37 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 06, 2015, 02:30:17 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2015, 07:51:05 PM
I haven't heard anybody saying we have the six flags of Texas means we are Confederates.  Yet you seem to think so.
Symbols of the Confederacy remain a contentious issue across the United States and their civic placement has been debated vigorously in many Southern state legislatures since the 1990s.

Only the Battle Flag because it was used by the KKK and segregationists.  Nobody ever has a problem with other symbols of the Confederacy because they are, indeed, simple relics.  If terroristic lynchings were carried out by Elizabeth II then I guess I get it.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Razgovory on February 06, 2015, 04:37:19 PM
I can't think of any symbol of the old Confederacy besides the Battle Flag that still carries weight off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Liep on December 11, 2015, 05:03:18 AM
New Zealand's new flag:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.newsapps.nz.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fflag-results%2Fimages%2Fsilver-fern-black-white-and-blue.svg&hash=543617faeddf9069ab0286cec25b2534ec0ff772)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on December 11, 2015, 05:07:57 AM
Quote from: Liep on December 11, 2015, 05:03:18 AM
New Zealand's new flag:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.newsapps.nz.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fflag-results%2Fimages%2Fsilver-fern-black-white-and-blue.svg&hash=543617faeddf9069ab0286cec25b2534ec0ff772)

Not so fast, there is a runoff poll against the current flag in March.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Liep on December 11, 2015, 05:10:55 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 11, 2015, 05:07:57 AM
Not so fast, there is a runoff poll against the current flag in March.


Ah, I doubt it'll change then. I don't think I'd vote for the new flag if I was a New Zealander.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on December 11, 2015, 06:34:59 AM
Quote from: Liep on December 11, 2015, 05:03:18 AM
New Zealand's new flag:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.newsapps.nz.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fflag-results%2Fimages%2Fsilver-fern-black-white-and-blue.svg&hash=543617faeddf9069ab0286cec25b2534ec0ff772)

needs some white scribbles in the middle. Maybe with a scimitar underneath.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: MadImmortalMan on December 11, 2015, 04:42:00 PM
It could be worse. Like New Guinea. But I don't prefer it over the current one.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: 11B4V on December 11, 2015, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2015, 07:43:30 AM
You hear that, colonizers? 

QuoteFiji Will Drop Union Jack From Its Flag, Premier Says
New York Times

HONG KONG — Fiji will replace its national flag this year to remove symbols of British colonialism, Prime Minister Frank Bainimarama announced Tuesday.

Upon independence in 1970, the Pacific island nation adopted a flag closely modeled after its colonial-era banner, with a British Union Flag in the upper left corner and a shield with symbols including the British lion and the Cross of St. George in its right half.

"They are the symbols of the colonizer — Britain — a country with whom we are friends and will continue to be so," Mr. Bainimarama said. "But they are not symbols that are relevant to any Fijian in the 21st century. And they should go."

The Union Flag, also known as the Union Jack, appears on the flags of a variety of territories and provinces, as well as a handful of national flags of former British colonies. One of those countries, New Zealand, could drop the Union Jack from its flag pending the outcome of two referendums, to be held this year and next.

Mr. Bainimarama said Fiji would begin soliciting citizens' suggestions for a new design with "indigenous and truly Fijian symbols of identity." He said he hoped the final result would retain the existing "Fiji blue" background but remove the Union Flag and colonial shield.

A government-selected citizens' panel will choose a final design, with plans to complete the process in time for Oct. 10, when Fiji marks 45 years of independence.

That's right Fuji, kick'em in the pee hole. Cast off the shackles of the empire.











:huh:
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Barrister on December 12, 2015, 12:58:23 AM
Quote from: Liep on December 11, 2015, 05:03:18 AM
New Zealand's new flag:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.newsapps.nz.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fflag-results%2Fimages%2Fsilver-fern-black-white-and-blue.svg&hash=543617faeddf9069ab0286cec25b2534ec0ff772)

Dreadful.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Archy on December 12, 2015, 12:14:55 PM
Quote from: Liep on December 11, 2015, 05:03:18 AM
New Zealand's new flag:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.newsapps.nz.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fflag-results%2Fimages%2Fsilver-fern-black-white-and-blue.svg&hash=543617faeddf9069ab0286cec25b2534ec0ff772)
No wonder Lord of the Rings was filmed over there. Looks like a flag for Sauron
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: celedhring on December 12, 2015, 12:37:46 PM
Clearly a Gondor battle flag, imho.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: bogh on December 12, 2015, 05:15:15 PM
Since I am living in New Zealand these days, I can attest that the flag debate has a complete farce. I'd be very surprised if the new flag got adopted, since there's a lot of opposition to change in general coupled with a significant of direct opposition to that specific design (which I also find pretty ugly). My gf (who's got Kiwi citizenship) voted for the "red peak" flag (which was only added into the mix after social media uproar), which I'd also prefer over any of the alternatives.

The RSA and other organizations are lobbying pretty hard to keep the flag and the whole thing is seen as a bit of prestige project for the very successful Prime Minister, signaling that he has run out of actual policy ideas.

BTW: https://www.ted.com/talks/roman_mars_why_city_flags_may_be_the_worst_designed_thing_you_ve_never_noticed?language=en

Red Peak
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/NZ_flag_design_Red_Peak_by_Aaron_Dustin.svg/1000px-NZ_flag_design_Red_Peak_by_Aaron_Dustin.svg.png)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: MadImmortalMan on December 12, 2015, 05:26:18 PM
That's even worse.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Scipio on December 12, 2015, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 05, 2015, 04:31:33 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 05, 2015, 04:28:54 PM
The Ontario Flag has the Union Jack.

For sheer uglyness, though, few flags beat the Toronto flag - which does not.  ;)

:huh:

It looks like an animation of someone unzipping his/her jeans and it being censored just at the crucial moment.
That is ugly as fuck.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 12, 2015, 09:26:57 PM
Howdy boghart.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: mongers on December 12, 2015, 10:43:57 PM
Wow Bogh, good to hear from you.

All sounds swimmingly, New Zealand sound like a pretty cool set up.  :)
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 13, 2015, 07:30:52 AM
I'd vote to keep the Union Jack, but of the two alternative, the red peak flag is by far the better.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Maximus on December 13, 2015, 01:38:47 PM
Quote from: Liep on December 11, 2015, 05:03:18 AM
New Zealand's new flag:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.newsapps.nz.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fflag-results%2Fimages%2Fsilver-fern-black-white-and-blue.svg&hash=543617faeddf9069ab0286cec25b2534ec0ff772)
I like it.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: bogh on December 13, 2015, 09:57:50 PM
Quote from: mongers on December 12, 2015, 10:43:57 PM
Wow Bogh, good to hear from you.

All sounds swimmingly, New Zealand sound like a pretty cool set up.  :)

Howdy, howdy. NZ is pretty laid back and good.

Did I miss anything substantial?
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 13, 2015, 10:01:53 PM
They should put a kiwi on the flag. The bird, not the fruit.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: lustindarkness on December 13, 2015, 10:08:38 PM
bogh! NZ is beautiful,  I've been to Christchurch twice,  love it.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: mongers on December 13, 2015, 11:07:09 PM
Quote from: bogh on December 13, 2015, 09:57:50 PM
Quote from: mongers on December 12, 2015, 10:43:57 PM
Wow Bogh, good to hear from you.

All sounds swimmingly, New Zealand sound like a pretty cool set up.  :)

Howdy, howdy. NZ is pretty laid back and good.

Did I miss anything substantial?

:cool:

No, Languish remains Languish-like; lots of denziens here have had children, but they too seek refuge here from time to time or particularly will they're chargng their clients billable hours.  :D
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: bogh on December 14, 2015, 12:10:38 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 13, 2015, 10:01:53 PM
They should put a kiwi on the flag. The bird, not the fruit.

This was my favorite from the open public submission:

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Laser Kiwi FTW.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 14, 2015, 12:21:08 AM
I'd like it better if there was perspective to see that the laser was coming out of both eyes. A laser coming out of one eye just seems strange.  :D
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: bogh on December 14, 2015, 02:03:20 AM
But that's not how Kiwi birds work, though.
Title: Re: Union Jack takes it in the Union Sack
Post by: Barrister on December 14, 2015, 10:58:44 AM
Quote from: bogh on December 14, 2015, 12:10:38 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 13, 2015, 10:01:53 PM
They should put a kiwi on the flag. The bird, not the fruit.

This was my favorite from the open public submission:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffm.cnbc.com%2Fapplications%2Fcnbc.com%2Fresources%2Fimg%2Feditorial%2F2015%2F05%2F15%2F102682735-3127-flag.530x298.png%3Fv%3D1431699254&hash=55ec5e3154c288b022dd0736559fee57550d05aa)

Laser Kiwi FTW.

It needs the laser beam to be strapped to the kiwi's head.  :cool: