Dunno what to believe, but here's the "story":
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1244371110137&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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Haniyeh: We will accept '67 borders
By YAAKOV KATZ, JPOST.COM STAFF AND AP
Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh told former US President Jimmy Carter Tuesday that his government supported any plan that aims to fulfill the aspirations of the Palestinians, preserves their rights and leads to the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state in all the territories that were occupied by Israel in 1967.
Haniyeh, according to his aides, also expressed Hamas's desire to end the case of kidnapped IDF soldier Gilad Schalit, welcoming Carter's mediation efforts in this regard. Haniyeh was quoted as saying that Hamas supported achieving a dignified solution to the Schalit case on a "human and political basis."
Haniyeh urged Carter to exert pressure on Israel to lift the blockade imposed on the Gaza Strip and reopen the border crossings into the area.
Earlier Tuesday, Hamas said it foiled an attempt by Palestinian terrorists to assassinate former US president Jimmy Carter during his visit to the Gaza Strip on Tuesday, Palestinian sources told news agencies.
Israeli security sources said that the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) had learned of plans to target Carter and had passed on the information to the former president's security detail in "real time."
According to Palestinian sources, terrorists linked with al Qaida hid a number of improved explosive devices along a road that Carter's convoy was scheduled to travel on inside Gaza. Hamas forces reportedly uncovered the IEDs and destroyed them.
Ismail Shahwan, spokesman for the Hamas Ministry of the Interior, denied that an al Qaeda-linked group had planned to assassinate Carter.
Shawan said no explosives were discovered near the Erez border crossing. He said that the visit went according to the plan.
Earlier, Carter had been quoted as saying he was holding back tears when surveying the "deliberate destruction" in Gaza following Israel's Operation Cast Lead earlier this year, Israel Radio reported.
Carter said that it was distressing to see the devastation in Gaza but also to see Kassams falling on Sderot.
The way to stop this is through dialogue and peace, Carter told reporters.
Carter met with Hamas leaders including Ismail Haniyeh. Prior to the meeting, he said he would try to persuade them to accept the international community's conditions for ending its boycott of the group. Carter added that after his talks in Gaza, he will meet with officials in the Obama administration.
Carter moved onto Tel Aviv to meet with the parents of Schalit. He is expected to deliver a letter by them to Hamas.
On Tuesday morning, top Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar said his movement would consider giving Schalit a letter delivered by Carter.
Zahar told Israel Radio on Tuesday that if Israel wanted to end the Schalit saga, it should free all the prisoners Hamas was demanding.
Zahar said that Egypt was yet to invite the group to resume indirect talks over securing Schalit's release, adding that the previous negotiations were halted due to Israel's insistence on not freeing prisoners from east Jerusalem and the Arab-Israeli sector.
He claimed Israel was not interested in reaching a prisoner swap deal, but rather wanted to get information on Schalit's whereabouts in order to try and free him in a military operation.
Zahar criticized Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's policy speech delivered Sunday, saying that he set impossible conditions for the Palestinians - to give up on the right of return and Jerusalem.
Khaled Abu Toameh contributed to this report.
What did they intend to use - one of those gigantic Korean rabbits? :P
I hate Carter.
Quote from: Alcibiades on June 16, 2009, 03:02:57 PM
I hate Carter.
Why? :blink:
And why would Hamas stop an assassination of Carter? I don't believe this story. They'd rather bathe in his blood.
Quote from: Jaron on June 16, 2009, 03:10:49 PM
Why?
Hating Carter is like hating Mr. Rogers :blink:
He's apparently an extremely annoying person. If you pay attention to any of the recent ex-President events, he's always being shunned and standing off to one side. Apparently he and Bill Clinton especially despise each other.
You would think they might target someone that actually has a job and who wasn't about to die of old age.
I miss Billy Beer.
Quote from: Jaron on June 16, 2009, 03:05:29 PM
And why would Hamas stop an assassination of Carter? I don't believe this story. They'd rather bathe in his blood.
Irony?
Quote from: Caliga on June 16, 2009, 03:48:25 PM
Quote from: Jaron on June 16, 2009, 03:10:49 PM
Why?
Hating Carter is like hating Mr. Rogers :blink:
He's apparently an extremely annoying person. If you pay attention to any of the recent ex-President events, he's always being shunned and standing off to one side. Apparently he and Bill Clinton especially despise each other.
But they used to be part of the same superhero team. :cry:
:lol: To me Carter is the ultimate Presidential enigma. Every time I hear something that makes me change my opinion on him, I almost immediately hear something else that pulls my opinion in another direction.
Quote from: Malthus on June 16, 2009, 02:22:41 PM
What did they intend to use - one of those gigantic Korean rabbits? :P
Beware Palestinians bearing gifts? :D
Quote from: Caliga on June 16, 2009, 03:48:25 PM
Quote from: Jaron on June 16, 2009, 03:10:49 PM
Why?
Hating Carter is like hating Mr. Rogers :blink:
He's apparently an extremely annoying person. If you pay attention to any of the recent ex-President events, he's always being shunned and standing off to one side. Apparently he and Bill Clinton especially despise each other.
So your reason to hate people is that Clinton hates them? :P
Quote from: Caliga on June 16, 2009, 04:28:05 PM
:lol: To me Carter is the ultimate Presidential enigma. Every time I hear something that makes me change my opinion on him, I almost immediately hear something else that pulls my opinion in another direction.
I hate Carter, yet his building homes work negates some of the evil that oozes out of him.
And my hate is from remembering '79. Bomb Iran.
Quote from: garbon on June 16, 2009, 03:07:53 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on June 16, 2009, 03:02:57 PM
I hate Carter.
Understandable.
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/jimmycarter.htm
TLDR version: JC is a horrible man.
:P
Quote from: Martinus on June 16, 2009, 04:29:24 PM
Quote from: Malthus on June 16, 2009, 02:22:41 PM
What did they intend to use - one of those gigantic Korean rabbits? :P
Beware Palestinians bearing gifts? :D
Heh - the reference is to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_rabbit_incident
It is totally unfair I know, but Carter never really lived down being "attacked by a killer rabbit".
It had big pointy teeth!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rxC-rXStic
All great visionaries are mocked.
One day, I will have to post my senior thesis from my PoliSci seminar, Jimmy Carter, Cold Warrior.
Hell, it convinced the professor.
Quote from: Martinus on June 16, 2009, 04:31:06 PM
So your reason to hate people is that Clinton hates them? :P
Yes. Clinton is God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj-AdvsiczU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj-AdvsiczU)
That's true. Hillary is.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2009, 03:58:01 PM
I miss Billy Beer.
All I'm saying is we elected the wrong Carter.
Quote from: PDH on June 16, 2009, 06:59:38 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2009, 03:58:01 PM
I miss Billy Beer.
All I'm saying is we elected the wrong Carter.
Should have elected Jason Carter.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2009, 05:32:28 PM
All great visionaries are mocked.
One day, I will have to post my senior thesis from my PoliSci seminar, Jimmy Carter, Cold Warrior.
Hell, it convinced the professor.
Contrary to CW, he was probably a better President than ex-President.
Sometime after he left office, space aliens took over the Jimmy Carter who appointed Zbig and nominated Scoop Jackson in 72, and replaced him with this facsimile that spouts nonense.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 16, 2009, 07:45:59 PM
Contrary to CW, he was probably a better President than ex-President.
Sometime after he left office, space aliens took over the Jimmy Carter who appointed Zbig and nominated Scoop Jackson in 72, and replaced him with this facsimile that spouts nonense.
He was a great ex-prez up until around the time he lied about the Venezuelan election. Then he started babbling about New Orleans and Katrina, and now he's hopelessly moonstruck with Hamas.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2009, 05:32:28 PM
All great visionaries are mocked.
One day, I will have to post my senior thesis from my PoliSci seminar, Jimmy Carter, Cold Warrior.
Hell, it convinced the professor.
Over 100 years, he will be hailed by our Chinese overlords as the first US president who had good relations with superpower China.
Quote from: Jaron on June 16, 2009, 03:10:49 PM
Hating Carter is like hating Mr. Rogers :blink:
I was unaware that Mr. Rogers had been a poor president & then later became a traitor :unsure:
Quote from: derspiess on June 17, 2009, 10:36:28 AM
I was unaware that Mr. Rogers had been a poor president & then later became a traitor :unsure:
I do believe they both won Nobel Peace Prizes though.
Quote from: derspiess on June 17, 2009, 10:36:28 AM
I was unaware that Mr. Rogers had been a poor president & then later became a traitor :unsure:
That particular season of
Neighborhood was poorly promoted; lots of people missed it.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 16, 2009, 04:17:27 PM
Quote from: Jaron on June 16, 2009, 03:05:29 PM
And why would Hamas stop an assassination of Carter? I don't believe this story. They'd rather bathe in his blood.
Irony?
Would seem to be that. Pres Carter has been championing the Palestinian cause, and I think that extends to Hamas as well. Go figure.... I wonder if he'll have a change of mind now?
nice 1996-ish web design on that Carter-hate site. needs more animated gifs tho to really capture that spirit of 96
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 17, 2009, 11:47:38 AM
nice 1996-ish web design on that Carter-hate site. needs more animated gifs tho to really capture that spirit of 96
I really liked it. I reminded me of the good old days of the internet.