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QuoteOliver Stone Interviews Yanukovych for Documentary on U.S. 'Coup' in Ukraine
Hollywood film producer Oliver Stone has said he wants to make a four-hour documentary telling the "dirty story" of the overthrow of former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych in what he believes was a "coup" organized with the help of the United States' Central Intelligence Agency.
"A dirty story through and through, but in the tragic aftermath of this coup, the West has maintained the dominant narrative of 'Russia in Crimea,' whereas the true narrative is 'USA in Ukraine.' The truth is not being aired in the West," Stone wrote on his Facebook page on Tuesday.
Stone said he had already spent four hours interviewing Yanukovych in Moscow for the project, in addition to several "police officials," all of whom believe "foreign elements" were responsible for the violent Maidan protests in Kiev that culminated in February with the overthrow of the Russia-backed president.
"Details to follow in the documentary, but it seems clear that the so-called 'shooters' who killed 14 policemen, wounded some 85, and killed 45 protesting civilians, were outside third party agitators," Stone wrote.
The Hollywood director's interpretation of events echoes the Russian government's suggestions that the regime change was a "color revolution" funded by foreign governments.
President Vladimir Putin in a security council meeting earlier this year said that the situation in Ukraine was partly the work of "outside forces" and warned that Russia must do all it can to prevent a similar uprising on its own turf.
Stone and Putin met in November this year, after which Stone proposed making a documentary about the Russian president as well.
Stone said at the time that Putin "represents a different point of view that Americans don't want to hear," RIA Novosti reported.
In Stone's view, the revolution in Ukraine resembles other incidents in which U.S. authorities may have orchestrated the overthrow of foreign governments.
"Create enough chaos, as the CIA did in Iran '53, Chile '73, and countless other coups, and the legitimate government can be toppled. It's America's soft power technique called 'Regime Change 101'," Stone wrote.
Stone has been known to focus on controversial figures in his work, including Richard Nixon, Hugo Chavez and George W. Bush. One of his most famous films, the legal thriller JFK starring Kevin Kostner, suggested that the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy was organized by a conspiracy of powerful elites within the U.S. government.
Yanukovych has kept a low profile since fleeing Ukraine in the spring. The new authorities in Kiev have pushed to have him prosecuted for the killing of protesters during the Maidan protests, which they describe as war crimes.
:bleeding: I imagine if you ask "Police officials" in Moscow you'll probably find out that at the bottom of it is the Jews. I seriously doubt that that they'll claim it was a conflict between corrupt East-leaning oligarchs and corrupt West-leaning oligarchs. Also, double :bleeding: for the Iran and Chile thing.
Oliver Stone is like the crazy family relation that gets even crazier as he gets older. Pretty soon it'll be time for the home for Uncle Ollie.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2015, 06:45:10 AM
Oliver Stone is like the crazy family relation that gets even crazier as he gets older. Pretty soon it'll be time for the home for Uncle Ollie.
This.
A dangerously insane human being.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2015, 06:45:10 AM
Oliver Stone is like the crazy family relation that gets even crazier as he gets older. Pretty soon it'll be time for the home for Uncle Ollie.
He's like the baby boomer who never grew up.
Quote from: The Brain on January 01, 2015, 07:53:15 AM
A dangerously insane human being.
Yes, I would support a drone strike.
Too bad that Stone doesn't go after the Russian conspiracies and actions in Ukraine for a more interesting, truthful and likely more fact based story. He could have had a winner there, but instead went the other way. Oh well, at least this movie for useful idiots will play well at Moscow theaters.
He went full Sheehan. You never go full Sheehan.
Sadly the viewpoint of Oliver Stone over the conflict in the Ukraine is probably the majority one globally.
I'm not sure why this is even thread-worthy. Stone thinks everything is a CIA plot. If we have to start a thread every time he reveals another conspiracy, we'll have nothing but worthless Stone conspiracy threads.
One megathread on Stone would do the trick. I generally don't read megathreads.
Gotta Timmay up the megathread.
OLIVER STONE MEGATHREAD!
Wacky.
Quote from: Ancient Demon on January 01, 2015, 06:08:57 PM
Sadly the viewpoint of Oliver Stone over the conflict in the Ukraine is probably the majority one globally.
Heh, yeah, there may be some truth in that.
You know, it's not fair. Everything's an American plot to discredit the Great Bear. Never mind that UAE is actually bankrupting their country just to say "FU" to Putin, it's all an American conspiracy. <_<
Frankly, Americans aren't good enough at cooperation to pull off the kind of conspiracies commonly attributed to us. Last time we pulled off a halfway decent coup was Iran, and look at how well that turned out for us.
Quote from: grumbler on January 01, 2015, 06:47:20 PM
I'm not sure why this is even thread-worthy. Stone thinks everything is a CIA plot. If we have to start a thread every time he reveals another conspiracy, we'll have nothing but worthless Stone conspiracy threads.
One megathread on Stone would do the trick. I generally don't read megathreads.
And according to his film 'Nixon', the CIA is run by Satan.
Quote from: 11B4V on January 01, 2015, 09:33:27 PM
You're not allowed those types of objects.
I am allowed all sorts of objects. Laws that could potentially deprive me of deadly weapons have been stalled in state and federal legistlatures. I'd like you thank you for that, and your current support of organizations that keeps it that way.
Quote from: Razgovory on January 02, 2015, 01:21:03 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 01, 2015, 09:33:27 PM
You're not allowed those types of objects.
I am allowed all sorts of objects. Laws that could potentially deprive me of deadly weapons have been stalled in state and federal legistlatures. I'd like you thank you for that, and your current support of organizations that keeps it that way.
We are all about equal opportunity.
Rakes are humans too.
Quote from: The Brain on January 02, 2015, 02:31:34 AM
Rakes are humans too.
True, but I'm not convinced it's sound public policy to grant Raz the unfettered license to physically handle cads, roués, heels, reprobates, or miscreants either. :hmm:
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on January 02, 2015, 05:45:08 AM
Quote from: The Brain on January 02, 2015, 02:31:34 AM
Rakes are humans too.
True, but I'm not convinced it's sound public policy to grant Raz the unfettered license to physically handle cads, roués, heels, reprobates, or miscreants either. :hmm:
What of canailles and mignons?
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on January 02, 2015, 05:45:08 AM
Quote from: The Brain on January 02, 2015, 02:31:34 AM
Rakes are humans too.
True, but I'm not convinced it's sound public policy to grant Raz the unfettered license to physically handle cads, roués, heels, reprobates, or miscreants either. :hmm:
If they don't want to be manhandled, they should stay out of his basement.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on January 02, 2015, 05:45:08 AM
True, but I'm not convinced it's sound public policy to grant Raz the unfettered license to physically handle cads, roués, heels, reprobates, or miscreants either. :hmm:
And ne'er-do-wells. Don't forget the ne'er-do-wells. And rapscallions.
Out of some limited sense of fairness to Stone, I think it was clear that the US, whether through the CIA, State Department, or other agencies, were giving aid and advice to the Euromaidan protestors that ultimately toppled Yanukovych. And if they didn't, well, I'd want to know why the hell not. I think it's precisely what the US and other western democracies should be doing - using soft power to help promote democracy around the world.
That sure doesn't sound like a coup, though, and definitely doesn't amount to proof that the US was behind snipers shooting at protesters...