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Title: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2014, 11:54:45 AM
QuoteNFL Spreads 12/28, 2014

Date & Time    Favorite    Spread    Underdog

12/28 4:25 ET    At Green Bay    -7.5    Detroit
12/28 1:00 ET    At Houston    -9.5    Jacksonville
12/28 8:30 ET    At Pittsburgh    -3.5    Cincinnati
12/28 1:00 ET    Indianapolis    -7    At Tennessee
12/28 1:00 ET    At Baltimore    -13    Cleveland
12/28 1:00 ET    At New England    -5    Buffalo
12/28 1:00 ET    At Miami    -6    NY Jets
12/28 4:25 ET    At Atlanta    -3.5    Carolina
12/28 1:00 ET    At Minnesota    -6    Chicago
12/28 1:00 ET    At Kansas City    -1    San Diego
12/28 1:00 ET    At NY Giants    -2.5    Philadelphia
12/28 1:00 ET    Dallas    -5.5    At Washington
12/28 1:00 ET    New Orleans    -4    At Tampa Bay
12/28 4:25 ET    At Seattle    -12.5    St. Louis
12/28 4:25 ET    At San Francisco    -6.5    Arizona
12/28 4:25 ET    At Denver    -14    Oakland

Thank you Christmas and college bowl season:  no Thursday night game, no Monday night game.  Just Sunday, like Vince Lombardi would want it.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: derspiess on December 27, 2014, 03:36:25 PM
Bungles tend to do well when the spread favors the other team up to 4 points.

That said, I'm ready to book a hotel room in Indy.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: Neil on December 27, 2014, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 27, 2014, 03:36:25 PM
Bungles tend to do well when the spread favors the other team up to 4 points.

That said, I'm ready to book a hotel room in Indy.
I recommend the Alexander
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2014, 05:39:56 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 27, 2014, 03:36:25 PM
That said, I'm ready to book a hotel room in Indy.

The Canterbury, room 606?
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: katmai on December 28, 2014, 09:59:51 AM
I'll be curious to see how long Harbaugh lasts at Michigan.
And no idea who Niners will look to take over.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: Neil on December 28, 2014, 11:35:36 AM
You have to wonder about the Niners.  Just a few years ago, they looked like they were finally getting past their issues and were ready to move forward.  But it seems like it's still crazy town there.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: katmai on December 28, 2014, 11:53:58 AM
:huh:

They figured out all the issues with the York ownership and besides dealing with a talented but difficult coach they are moving on.
Now if the preliminary reports of them interested in that dipshit OC from New England, then maybe i'll agree with your assesment.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: Neil on December 28, 2014, 01:04:59 PM
Well, we'll see what happens.  The recovery is fragile.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: katmai on December 28, 2014, 01:20:19 PM
That assessment I can agree with.
I mean with Hawks and Cardinals in division and even Rams it is looking tough.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: Neil on December 28, 2014, 01:22:08 PM
Remember back in the Singletary years, when the whole division was garbage?  What a difference a few years makes in the NFL.  Unless you're the Raiders.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: katmai on December 28, 2014, 01:43:54 PM
Chargers being Chargers no matter is Schottenheimer is there or not.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: katmai on December 28, 2014, 01:45:47 PM
Oh and all the Johnny Football news out of Cleveland :nelson:
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on December 28, 2014, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 28, 2014, 11:53:58 AM
:huh:

They figured out all the issues with the York ownership and besides dealing with a talented but difficult coach they are moving on.
Now if the preliminary reports of them interested in that dipshit OC from New England, then maybe i'll agree with your assesment.

Josh McDaniels?  No fucking way.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: katmai on December 28, 2014, 02:46:52 PM
That is what one of the so called experts was throwing out there with like three other names.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on December 28, 2014, 02:48:45 PM
I mean I guess maybe he learned not to be a complete nutcase after getting canned by Denver and having to go back to NE, but....
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on December 28, 2014, 02:56:08 PM
Speaking of former NE coaches, I really like what Bill O'Brien has done in Houston this season.  I know they weren't really as bad as their record last year, but to have them actually playing a meaningful game in the last week of the season is pretty great. 
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on December 28, 2014, 03:47:47 PM
Watt just sacked Bortles for a safety and became the first player in NFL history to have 20+ sacks in multiple seasons, according to Fox.  Is that stat correct?  Apparently it is.  Wow.

E: Well, the game actually isn't going to matter even if they win, since the Browns are busy being the Browns.  9-7/8-8 is an excellent season with a new coaching staff though. 
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: sbr on December 28, 2014, 04:00:10 PM
McDaniels will get another shot at being a head coach, probably this year.  I don't think I would want my team to hire him but I think he has a chance of being better than he did in Denver.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: katmai on December 28, 2014, 04:03:51 PM
Setting the bar high there are we sbr :P
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on December 28, 2014, 04:05:51 PM
Oh nice.  Jonathan Joseph and Marquise Lee just took each other out in the endzone with 1:35 left in the season. 
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: Neil on December 28, 2014, 04:31:37 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on December 28, 2014, 03:47:47 PM
Watt just sacked Bortles for a safety and became the first player in NFL history to have 20+ sacks in multiple seasons, according to Fox.  Is that stat correct?  Apparently it is.  Wow.

E: Well, the game actually isn't going to matter even if they win, since the Browns are busy being the Browns.  9-7/8-8 is an excellent season with a new coaching staff though.
The guy is a monster.  He's probably the best defensive lineman since Reggie White.  It'll be nice watching A Football Life about him in 10 years or so.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: Neil on December 28, 2014, 04:32:08 PM
Thank you, Chiefs.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: Neil on December 28, 2014, 04:42:49 PM
Watching the end of the Chiefs-Chargers, Shawn Springs does something really smart there.  He intercepts Rivers in the end zone, sees the flag on the field, runs it out and burns an extra six seconds off the clock, knowing it wouldn't matter and that the time wouldn't come back.  Instead of the Chargers having a few plays to try and do something, they had 4 seconds.  Sure, they were probably going to lose anyways, and the 4th down stop is what really iced it, but that kind of smart football play really impresses me.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: Alcibiades on December 28, 2014, 05:45:44 PM
Rodger's re-injured his calf, hope they can hold on to this 14 point lead..
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: Neil on December 28, 2014, 05:50:24 PM
Flynn might actually be able to get them a few points, if he has to.  And their defence has been mostly manhandling the Lions, until that last drive.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: derspiess on December 29, 2014, 09:47:42 AM
Yet again, it's Rex Ryan rather than actual relevant playoff news in the headlines after Week 17.

Also, silver lining for the Bungles following last night's painful loss-- playing the Bills next year instead of the Patriots, and playing the Texans instead of the Colts.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 29, 2014, 11:29:44 AM
Quote from: derspiess on December 29, 2014, 09:47:42 AM
Yet again, it's Rex Ryan rather than actual relevant playoff news in the headlines after Week 17.

New York.  It's where are the reporters are.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: derspiess on December 29, 2014, 12:25:16 PM
I know.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: crazy canuck on December 29, 2014, 12:56:08 PM
A disappointing year so far.  An average Seahawks team wins the NFC by default because Arizona ran out of Quarterbacks.  And unless you are Timmay there isn't much to be excited about coming out of the AFC either.  Put it this way, the Cowboys might win this year.  :bleeding:
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 29, 2014, 01:02:57 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 29, 2014, 12:56:08 PM
Put it this way, the Cowboys might win this year.  :bleeding:

Think of it this way:  don't look at a Romo championship as a victory for JerryWorld and the evil that is Dallas, but rather another, final validation in the genius of Bill Parcells.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: derspiess on December 29, 2014, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 29, 2014, 12:56:08 PM
A disappointing year so far.  An average Seahawks team wins the NFC by default because Arizona ran out of Quarterbacks.  And unless you are Timmay there isn't much to be excited about coming out of the AFC either.  Put it this way, the Cowboys might win this year.  :bleeding:

I think it's been a pretty fun year.  Aside from disappointment in whatever your favorite team is, what more do you want?  I'm not a Cowboys fan but it wouldn't kill me if they won the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: alfred russel on December 29, 2014, 02:09:13 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 29, 2014, 12:56:08 PM
A disappointing year so far.  An average Seahawks team wins the NFC by default because Arizona ran out of Quarterbacks.  And unless you are Timmay there isn't much to be excited about coming out of the AFC either.  Put it this way, the Cowboys might win this year.  :bleeding:

The seahawks aren't average. Based on number crunching Nate Silver thinks if they win the Super Bowl they have a case to be considered the best team ever.

Also, a potential last(ish) run for Manning / Brady in the AFC is sort of exciting, isn't it?
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: dps on December 29, 2014, 05:30:37 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on December 29, 2014, 02:09:13 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 29, 2014, 12:56:08 PM
A disappointing year so far.  An average Seahawks team wins the NFC by default because Arizona ran out of Quarterbacks.  And unless you are Timmay there isn't much to be excited about coming out of the AFC either.  Put it this way, the Cowboys might win this year.  :bleeding:

The seahawks aren't average. Based on number crunching Nate Silver thinks if they win the Super Bowl they have a case to be considered the best team ever.

A)  The Seahawks have underperformed this year, and B) it would be a weak case.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: alfred russel on December 29, 2014, 06:51:46 PM
Quote from: dps on December 29, 2014, 05:30:37 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on December 29, 2014, 02:09:13 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 29, 2014, 12:56:08 PM
A disappointing year so far.  An average Seahawks team wins the NFC by default because Arizona ran out of Quarterbacks.  And unless you are Timmay there isn't much to be excited about coming out of the AFC either.  Put it this way, the Cowboys might win this year.  :bleeding:

The seahawks aren't average. Based on number crunching Nate Silver thinks if they win the Super Bowl they have a case to be considered the best team ever.

A)  The Seahawks have underperformed this year, and B) it would be a weak case.

I'm not saying they are the best team ever, but they exceeded their over/under wins for the season (11), got home field throughout the playoffs, and were 2nd in the league in scoring differential. They started slow, which seems to have started a narrative that has stuck, but I don't think they underperformed.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: Tonitrus on December 30, 2014, 12:07:03 AM
I gotta agree with AR.  Objectively, the Hawks looked like crap the first half of the season (I think due to the loss of players, etc), but I think Wilson and company have gotten the kinks worked out and back in stride for the second half.

Whether it will carry them through to the Bowl...we'll see.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: crazy canuck on December 31, 2014, 01:39:46 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on December 29, 2014, 02:09:13 PM

Based on number crunching Nate Silver thinks if they win the Super Bowl they have a case to be considered the best team ever.


Nate Silver needs to have his numbers checked by someone who knows something about football  :P
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: crazy canuck on December 31, 2014, 01:40:52 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 30, 2014, 12:07:03 AM
I gotta agree with AR.  Objectively, the Hawks looked like crap the first half of the season (I think due to the loss of players, etc), but I think Wilson and company have gotten the kinks worked out and back in stride for the second half.

The looked pretty bad in the first half against a bad Rams team.
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 31, 2014, 01:41:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 31, 2014, 01:39:46 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on December 29, 2014, 02:09:13 PM

Based on number crunching Nate Silver thinks if they win the Super Bowl they have a case to be considered the best team ever.


Nate Silver needs to have his numbers checked by someone who knows something about football  :P

No shit. 
Title: Re: NFL Week 17: Just Like A Peter Jackson Finale, Squeezed Inside 10 Hours
Post by: Ed Anger on December 31, 2014, 01:45:13 PM
Nate Silver needs to be run over by a Steamroller