"We shall divert through our own Country a branch of commerce which the European States have thought worthy of the most important struggles and sacrifices, and in the event of peace [ending the American Revolution]...we shall form to the American union a barrier against the dangerous extension of the British Province of Canada and add to the Empire of liberty an extensive and fertile Country thereby converting dangerous Enemies into valuable friends." - Jefferson to George Rogers Clark, 25 December 1780
I've decided to create a Victoria II AAR after spending over 100 hours on the game. I remember Lettuce saying something about creating vulgar pan-American fantasies which sounded like a good idea. For the AAR I'll be using FRAPS to take screenshots and Open Office to create notes, all screenshots are loaded via imgur. I'm using the POPdemand Mod and the Concert of Europe starting point. My plans are to conquer as much of the Americas as possible and humble the great powers of Europe.
Game starts on September 1st 1821. The US is not a great power, but will quickly become one. It is home to 9.99 million people 2.49 million are workers. Literacy is only 40 Percent due to the large population of slaves. I have two pressing issues, a small military and the need to quickly expand over over the continent with colonists before the Mexicans and the British. To colonize I need bureaucrats so I'm going to focus on that. A larger military is easier to build, though I plan to remove the current army and build a new one because I don't like the unit names. Once I've expanded across the continent I will try to promote liberalism. I also may see if I can conquer Haiti.
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The game starts off fairly well, Florida becomes a state in February of 1822. Our leader is a pig headed isolationist. Our birthrate is stable, but we are getting lots of immigrants. Only problem is that our immigration stance causes some militancy. Arkansas becomes a state in July and Liberia becomes a country (that I care much). Wisconsin Iowa and Arkansas quickly follow.
In 1823 we become a great power!
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Oklahoma becomes a state, and then we get a chance to initiate an event: The Trail of Tears. While this is a bad thing, in the game it actually benefits the people involved because it makes Cherokee an accepted culture and decreases militancy. Nothing like ethnic cleansing to create tolerance and peace. Oh well, whatever. I'll move them if they actually want to move. I also begin planning for the conquest of Haiti.
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n 1825 we have elections. Violent elections. The Democrats win with 100% of the states. Anyway I'm have my casus belli on Haiti now. The first step to an American empire begins!
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The Democrats win with 100% of the states. Anyway I'm have my casus belli on Haiti now. The first step to an American empire begins!
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The War with Haiti is not exactly exciting. I land troops, and conquer the country.
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Though an unexpected consequence is horrible puppets
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In 1830 we have an orderly election, which is nice.
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Though we run the risk of militant pacifists.
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The Democrats win this election easily as well, though not 100% of the vote. I did get one reform through that gives proportional representation in the Senate. Occasionally I get this event that might have been written by Lettow.
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The picture is not that of a Southern belle but an Irish whore named Eliza Gilbert aka Lola Montez who caused quite a scandal in Bavaria in the early 19th century.
After about 10 years I have colonized most of North America expect those territories under Mexican rule, British rule or where technology can't cope with the harsh conditions like in Oregon.
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I'm planning on doing this in 10 year chunks to make it more manageable. Stay tunned for the 1830's!
Proportional representation in the Senate?
Very unamerican and ahistorical. You should have went with universal suffrage instead.
Also, why Hati? You should have went for Cuba or Texas.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 09, 2014, 12:37:46 AM
Proportional representation in the Senate?
Very unamerican and ahistorical. You should have went with universal suffrage instead.
Also, why Hati? You should have went for Cuba or Texas.
I want more reforms. Haiti has no allies and is not part of a major nation. It's easy to pick off. I'll get cores on Cuba and Texas later anyway.
Surely the universal vote reform was available.
Cores will come eventually, so that's not a big problem.
I need to install POPs of Darkness before installing Concert of Europe, right?
Yes. Pops of Darkness and then Concert of Europe.
I trust you'll bring responsible government to the lawless fugitives of Haiti in the form of such stewards as can provide a guiding and redeeming hand under a more traditional authority structure?
You just can't resist rushing in to tell us what a terrible person you are.
Quote from: Razgovory on November 09, 2014, 06:56:31 AM
Yes. Pops of Darkness and then Concert of Europe.
:huh:
The creator pointedly notes that you are to run CoE separately. I believe he has noted that it contains all of PoD, so two installations aren't necessary.
Quote from: garbon on November 09, 2014, 09:27:02 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 09, 2014, 06:56:31 AM
Yes. Pops of Darkness and then Concert of Europe.
:huh:
The creator pointedly notes that you are to run CoE separately. I believe he has noted that it contains all of PoD, so two installations aren't necessary.
Oh, okay.
America: Part Deux
The 1830's start off well. The economy is kicking into gear and I finally get my causi belli on the Dominican Republic. The 1830's start off well. The economy is kicking into gear and I finally get my causi belli on the Dominican Republic. On June 1st of 1832 I declare war on the Dominican republic and it's ally Venezuela. 1st army still in Haiti goes into action and conquers the rest of the island.
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Americans forces blockade Venezuela and invade the western portion of the country.
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After about a year of war they surrender to our demands and Zulia is welcomed into the Union.
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1834 is an election year, a contentious one.
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Sadly 1834 brings a recession as well.
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Happily we get the Oregan trail event which lets us settle Oregon, Washington and part of Canada.
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We also discover the secrets of Romanticism, which naturally leads to the development of boot factories. No scribes allowed!
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In the end, the Democrats win, but the Whigs get their best showing yet!
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In 1837 Texas rebels against Mexico.
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The US intervention is decisive. Here we see Donald Hunter's 8th Army fight the biggest battle of the war.
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Peace and Texan Independence is secured by the next year.
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IN 1839 new elections start, which remarkably result in a Whig victory.
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Toward the end of the game there are ominous rumblings.
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Now here's something odd. Hispaniola entered the Union as a slave state. Some of the slaves are Romanian.
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The United States in 1842.
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Glad to see my country learned that Gypsies are only fit for slavery!
I sorta want to play this again and kill Mexicans.
Your ahistorical strategy fills me with rage! :mad:
Guess that means I'll just have to download this mod and play my own game! :bowler:
Well I'm doing something right.
Oregon is a forbidding wasteland.
Fucking Whigs! They are pacifist and won't let me wage aggressive war. Oddly some states have let me chose twice on whether it will be a slave state of a free one. I guess so I can piss off both sides.
Good, funny AAR, Raz. :hug:
Started my own game, liberated Nicaragua from Mexico's oppressive grip in 1829 (they've annexed the USCA twice!). Had to peace out before getting Costa Rica because my debt was alarmingly high.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 09, 2014, 10:54:21 PM
Your ahistorical strategy fills me with rage! :mad:
Guess that means I'll just have to download this mod and play my own game! :bowler:
I had a go too as the US. Lost washington and colombia to britain due to the ai's ability to click immeditely and me not being able to do so. Texas got annexed by mexico, so i dowed for Nueva Leon and Chihauha to try and provoke the texas rebellion which didn't work. I did get overrun by hundreds of thousands of rebles during that war though and hte CSA declared independence. I did get NL and Chihauha out of that war. This is still in the 1830s. I dowed the CSA to restore order and fought a long war (damn those CSA generals and their mega magic army sizes) to finally annex them, all the states were returned as free. Resulting in a USA with the slavery debate still active and NO slave states in the Union. Mexioc dowed me during the war of unification and lost sonoroa. Later I dowed mexico to release california, deseret and texas on the grounds that manifest destiny didn't trigger unless texas didn't exist and I owned a texas core, hoping they'd petition to join the union. However texas became a country with slavery outlawed so the texas annexation event didn't trigger either. Now I have to wait for the civil war and fight the CSA - AGAIN, to get texas to join me. Once that is all fixed I can fix the Washtington and Colombia issues. And, the canda issue, due to rupertsland being independent AND a major power.
How entertaining/possible is it to play a near-purely pacifist country in this, these days? Ideally, I'd want to give a shot at only fighting defensive wars, if any.
Quote from: Viking on November 10, 2014, 12:19:42 PM
And, the canda issue, due to rupertsland being independent AND a major power.
What? If Canada doesn't exist because Conederation failed (there was political infighting over this and the transcanadian railroad nearly went bankrupt), or chooses not to accept Rupertsland, Britain should sell it to the US. An independent Rupertsland doesn't make sense.
Quote from: Habbaku on November 10, 2014, 12:29:16 PM
How entertaining/possible is it to play a near-purely pacifist country in this, these days? Ideally, I'd want to give a shot at only fighting defensive wars, if any.
I can fight wars but I can't demand territory except for cores. All I can do is demand they tear down their forts in a region. The problem is only temporary. The Whig party will go away eventually and be replaced with the Republican party who is not pacifist but is just anti-military. So I can conquer stuff, but they don't want to pay for it. I guess I better write up the next chapter soon.
Victoria 2: America Part 3
In the 1840's secessionism is becoming a major problem. I pass a few decisions to decrease tensions. I'm hoping to use the increased tension in the North to get some more reforms through. This seems to be working moderately well, I enacted non-secrets ballets (and improvement over Gerrymandering), even though support for universal suffrage is greater. If I give the people what they want, they may become less agitated, and an agitated public gets more laws passed. The game allowed me to release the Ostend Manifesto which I thought would give me cores on Cuba, but all it did was piss off every great power. Even countries that by all rights shouldn't give a shit, like Bavaria.
Well, at least we got some Tax reforms. That's a good enough reason to raise the American flag.
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In 1843 my truce with Mexico ends allowing me to trigger Manifest Destiny which gives me cores on all historical American provinces. Mexico is sent an message about possibly selling those provinces. They refused.
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That's not good enough an Empire of Liberty.
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The US declares war on Mexico and Mexico's allies come to her aid (Colombia and San Salvador). 1st army in Zulia crosses the border and attacks Colombia. US forces cross the border into Mexico at several points. As soon as the war begins Texas asks for statehood which is given. In April I can get another reform through, finally making ballots secret. I've noticed that part of Colombia is occupied by Argentina and Bolivia for some stupid reason.
6th Army destroys the last of Mexican forces in California.
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I get an announcement that elections coming that September. In Mexico General Randolph Smith wins a stunning victory.
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Even as the US conquers Mexico, some gaze hungrily toward British North America. We shall not take any guff from the Brits so we elect to Fight.
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Damn the British give in. Oh, and note I sent the British an Ultimatum before the battle of Monterrey, I got the chronology wrong.
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Mexico surrenders the territory soon afterword. It's at this point I realize the flaw in my plan. Whigs are pacifist and won't let me take any territory that is not rightfully mine. So I can't claim any more of Mexico then I have cores on. So now the horror of peace falls across the US.
Other countries get to have all the fun. Some countries mock me by sending absurd requests to parade their antiquated militaries through my territory.
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Oh and the Whigs won the again. And we get a recession. Thanks Obama.
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And here's my niece looking at a caterpillar.
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There is a very small uprising in Haiti which we easily put down.
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And we issue Passports which helps with immigration.
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And Commodore Perry goes on his historic mission.
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Which immediately brings down the Japanese government.
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The USA and her new acquisitions at the end of this session.
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I did max out political reforms, which is bring in lots of immigrants.
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The US is now the 4th greatest power on Earth.
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You should focus on clergymen in order to increase your literacy rate.
You should focus on caterpillars. :yes:
I think you should focus on the subjugation and conquest of the Americas.
I noticed that when people integrate into the US they don't keep their old religion, which is disappointing. Irish immigrants should become Catholic Yankees and I have lots of Irish. At one point California had as many Irish as it did Mexicans. I got to the Civil war. I intentionally made it difficult by recruiting from both Northern and Southern states indiscriminately so the war initially looks like an enormous mutiny (the US army is quite large).
Quote from: Razgovory on November 11, 2014, 03:21:45 AM
I noticed that when people integrate into the US they don't keep their old religion, which is disappointing. Irish immigrants should become Catholic Yankees and I have lots of Irish. At one point California had as many Irish as it did Mexicans. I got to the Civil war. I intentionally made it difficult by recruiting from both Northern and Southern states indiscriminately so the war initially looks like an enormous mutiny (the US army is quite large).
Step 1. Get island
Step 2. Recruit all Dixie soldier pops as irregulars
Step 3. Place Dixie solders on island
Step 4. Have civil war
Step 5. Profit!
Your foreign minister talks about "acquiring cores", you should have his head checked.
My colonial power was too low to compete with Britain in Columbia. They got both Colombia and Washington. Going to reload from the 1830 save and see if I can build enough ports and ships to raise it enough to compete.
Quote from: Viking on November 11, 2014, 03:26:18 AM
Step 1. Get island
Step 2. Recruit all Dixie soldier pops as irregulars
Step 3. Place Dixie solders on island
Step 4. Have civil war
Step 5. Profit!
Not everyone plays to min/max their country. That sounds horrendously boring.
Unlike Brazil where the population was heavily concentrated in a few states, the US population is much more spread out so with only 2-3 national focuses quickly raising literacy in the early game is not as feasible. Any alternate strategy suggest itself to you guys?
The best way to increase colonial power is to build naval bases, right?
I have so much more colonial power than you, but Britain can still outlast me. Did they just chose not to compete with you? How did you win colonize the Columbian interior?
I asked for the territory and they gave it to me. I thought that was clear.
No, in 1842 you managed to colonize Washington and the interior of Columbia with less than half the colonial power that I have. How?
Quote from: Razgovory on November 09, 2014, 03:12:44 PM
The United States in 1842.
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You do know you have to make your territories states right? Otherwise you'll have a lot of power tied up in their upkeep. You can make them states by promoting bureaucrats in those territories.
Quote from: Razgovory on November 12, 2014, 08:51:48 AM
You do know you have to make your territories states right? Otherwise you'll have a lot of power tied up in their upkeep. You can make them states by promoting bureaucrats in those territories.
I made all my territories states, I built all the naval bases I could. My colonial power is 470 and yours is only 200! Yet, I can only manage to nab Oregon.
The Fourth Decade: The Search for Spock
Starting out is a bit slow. I can't wage war, Laissez-faire has some serious draw backs, notably capitalists build a bunch of factories that they end up clsoing because there isn't enough people to work in them.
I took this screen shot but I don't remember why.
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Libertarians gain representation in the Upper House.
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We have an election where Free soil party runs again. Free Soil, Free men, Freemont! Sadly they narrowly lose to the Whigs.
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I get the Dred Scot Case. This time, Justice is served. I AM THE LAW!
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At some point, both the Whig and Free Soil parties disappear and are replaced with the Republican party. I don't know when this happened, it was only '56 did I even notice it. The Republicans become the ruling party despite nobody actually voting for them. Oh well, I can wage war again. So Mexico had better watch out.
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So we fabricate a claim on that province with those ugly little dogs and declare war.
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Early in the War there is an Election. The newly elected Republican Party wins. My old enemy the Libertarians are gaining power.
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The Mexicans prove more difficult to fight this time around.
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During the war we are betrayed by Libertarians. Fortunately we have no difficultly taking the guns from their cold dead hands.
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Surprisingly the Mexicans beat my Pacific squadron though I lose no ships.
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But we wear down the enemy. The Mexicans quickly surrender.
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Shortly after our victory the people of "ugly little dog" state rebel. It takes considerable force to put them down.
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John Brown is hung. The Civil War looms.
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I get first crack at the Tomb of the Pharaohs!
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And Civil War breaks out! Of course I pick the Union. Being an equal opportunity employer I have both Dixie and Yankee pops in my armies, so the beginning of the war is a series of mutinies and battles between loyalist and rebel brigades.
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With the war ongoing I immediately end slavery.
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The War makes big headlines!
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France is Glorious. US President murdered: page five. (note this paper came out before the war. I only noticed it and took a screen shot afterwords.
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Seriously? I'm kinda busy right now.
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When the war starts a large number of my troops were in the newly conquered Mexican territory so they invaded the South through Texas. You can also see Robert E. Lee apparently winning a battle. He somehow manages to lose it anyway.
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Robert E. Lee is a highly mobile general, but by himself he won't go anywhere. You really have to drive him hard.
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The US tightens it's grip on the South.
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And we pass the Homestead Act
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This session is over. The US is beating the Confederacy. Hopefully I'll be able to bring it down in another year. Here is the general strategic situation. Note the Hispaniola and Zulia are confederate as well.
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Here's a close up of where the majority of the fighting is, in the West.
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The East on the other hand isn't seeing a lot of fighting. The Capital is about to fall.
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Still fourth place though!
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Enjoying the AAR, Raz!
Agreed. Keep it up!
Very entertaining Raz. Please continue. :)
In particular though please add more pics of your niece.
I am pleased to see screenshots indicate responsible rule did indeed find Hispaniola at last. That's a gratifyingly large Southern Confederacy.
Spoiler: The South lost. Now I have to reorganize all my armies.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 12, 2014, 08:53:41 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 12, 2014, 08:51:48 AM
You do know you have to make your territories states right? Otherwise you'll have a lot of power tied up in their upkeep. You can make them states by promoting bureaucrats in those territories.
I made all my territories states, I built all the naval bases I could. My colonial power is 470 and yours is only 200! Yet, I can only manage to nab Oregon.
So, no answer to this? At best I manage to force an international crisis for one of the territories. How did you win both? Did Britain just choose not to compete for some reason?
ATTN: TIM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 10, 2014, 10:02:28 PM
Even as the US conquers Mexico, some gaze hungrily toward British North America. We shall not take any guff from the Brits so we elect to Fight.
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Damn the British give in. Oh, and note I sent the British an Ultimatum before the battle of Monterrey, I got the chronology wrong.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 13, 2014, 10:39:40 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 12, 2014, 08:53:41 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 12, 2014, 08:51:48 AM
You do know you have to make your territories states right? Otherwise you'll have a lot of power tied up in their upkeep. You can make them states by promoting bureaucrats in those territories.
I made all my territories states, I built all the naval bases I could. My colonial power is 470 and yours is only 200! Yet, I can only manage to nab Oregon.
So, no answer to this? At best I manage to force an international crisis for one of the territories. How did you win both? Did Britain just choose not to compete for some reason?
I honestly don't know what you are doing different. I colonized the states bordering Mexico and Canada first, leaving Kansas and Nebraska for last. I am using the PopDemand Mod. When I acquired an area I quickly put the focus on bureaucrats so I it would become a state. I did start out with a lot of areas that weren't states, and used the focus on bureaucrats to so they would become states (instead of focusing on clergy like you suggested).
Ugh, for some reason the screenshots taken after 1867 didn't keep. So there will be a period of missing time between '67 and '72.
Part Five: The Final Frontier.
The US is still in the depths of a terrible Civil War, though the Union is clearly winning. The majority of the fighting is in the West. The East is all but undefended.
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I chose not to piss off the British at this moment, but their time will come. Oh it will come.
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"Stonewall" Jackson loses the largest battle of the war in Oklahoma. It is the high tide of the Confederacy.
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This actually sounds rather dangerous
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The Republican party is wracked with scandal. There will be a new Election.
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However the Confederacy is still in serious trouble.
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And we finally can create the emancipation proclamation. This can only be done with something like 40% of Confederate territory is occupied.
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Despite the scandals the GOP wins again.
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And the Confederates surrender. There is much rejoicing.
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Okay, this is around the point things get sketchy as for some reason I wasn't taking enough screenshots. Shortly after the war with CSA I conquered Panama and a bit later a piece of Colombia. This is a small naval battle around Panama.
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We do get a chance to buy Alaska, which I immediately do.
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Goddamn it! The south goes Jim Crow and I have no way to actually stop it.
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Another Libertarian uprising. It is easily put down.
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The US fights a short war against Mexico for the state of Durango. My newly reformed military makes short work of them. I would like to build a navy but none of my capitalists want to build steamer ship yard. In fact, nobody in the world is building them except Norway.
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I do begin the Panama canal, which apparently actives Indiana Jones.
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The US in 1872. South American holdings not shown.
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I am on the verge of becoming the 3rd greatest power on Earth.
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Man it is Sikh how well the Sikh Empire is doing.
Sorry you couldn't activate Steven's reconstruction plan Raz :console: but proud at how you are uniting the Americas into a great Empire. From Pole to Pole!
The forces of Reaction have me over a barrel. I've had a massive reactionary uprising.
Quote from: Razgovory on November 15, 2014, 12:59:40 AM
The forces of Reaction have me over a barrel. I've had a massive reactionary uprising.
Slavery for all?
Presidential dictatorship. I kept getting Klan events, that increase militancy in non-Dixie populations. Unfortunately immigrants assimilate into Yankee no mater where in the country they end up. So Yankees have a plurality in most former slave states. Being attacked by assholes with burning crosses makes them mad, and went reactionary. I had massive revolts all over the former slave states. Eventually I had half a million men besieging Washington DC. When they took ever they redacted all my precious reforms.
Honestly I'm more then a little disgusted with it.
I'm getting confused with two screenshot AARs about the same country in one thread.
Umm, Tim, hijacking someone's AAR thread (when it is very easy to just start your own) is very low class and lame. Some mod should slap him around.
I also decided to play a jingoist American Victoria II game. Here is my map:
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;)
Quote from: Tonitrus on November 16, 2014, 04:04:27 AM
Umm, Tim, hijacking someone's AAR thread (when it is very easy to just start your own) is very low class and lame. Some mod should slap him around.
Esp. considering that he normally has no compunctions about spamming threads for every inane subject.
Anyways, I guess it's easy to tell the strands apart. One is written by a mentally unstable, self centered egotistical idiot impervious to arguments, and the other is by Raz.
It's a shame to see tim's deep-seated, insecure need to be an American come in the way of Raz's AAR, which has been quite entertaining.
What the Hell, Tim? Go create you own damn thread.
The US part VI: American Balboa
We are entering into a rather grim epoch of US history where Democracy falters.
In 1872 the Democrats win and take the White House. That's not bad by itself.
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Intrepid American adventures bring glory to the whole country.
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I decide to create two Cavalry Armies during my military reforms. One of them has Honest to God Cossacks!
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Mexico apparently sends their mail to the wrong address and asks us to intervene on their behalf. We laugh.
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The US annexes Hawaii! I haven't been posting much about it, but the US has been putting many Asian states in it's sphere so I get a steady stream of spices, drugs, and tropical wood.
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The conquest of Mexico goes on. This time we take Sonora
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Baseball is fast becoming the national past time!
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Another Year and another election. Dems win. But notice how strong the reactionaries get.
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It starts with a series of mutinies in the proud American army.
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Then boom! Reactionary revolt.
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And it gets worse.
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And for no reason I can tell Jacobin rebels join in. The US is already a democracy. It can't get more democracy then it already is.
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Government of the people, by the people, for the people, perishes from the earth.
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So now there is a secret police.
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And extreme right wing eats away at our remaining reforms.
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Meanwhile...
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Fortunately there are still triumphs for the US.
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The Scramble for Africa begins. US is not invited.
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The US wages war on Mexico again!
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All that archeology pays off! The secrets of the Mayan help spur our naval development.
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The US in 1882.
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And we are now in Second place!
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Ugh Southern Democrats!
Tim, stop being a douchebag.
Good stuff Raz
Mayan torpedo boats?
I admit, I went and tattled to teacher over this.
I like your AAR. :)
I like all those reactionaries. :boner:
Quote from: Razgovory on November 16, 2014, 07:49:52 PM
I admit, I went and tattled to teacher over this.
You weren't the only one to complain, actually.
Okay, okay, I'll make my own thread.
Did the reactionary rebels fight the jacobin rebels when they ran into each other?
Am I too late to snitch on Tim?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 16, 2014, 09:12:54 PM
Okay, okay, I'll make my own thread.
Did the reactionary rebels fight the jacobin rebels when they ran into each other?
Not that I could tell.
Leonard America part 7
The American people aren't really happy with this dictatorship thing. Right off the bat we get this vanguard party thing. Of course they would install one tyranny with another.
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On the bright side I get a whole bunch of these events.
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Which leads to the peaceful collapse of the dictatorship.
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Our new government sticks a finger in Ron Pauls eye and forms a national bank!
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Siam, a country that has long been in our sphere attacks our embassy. They do so at bad time as well, we are preparing for war against Cuba. Well, they'll get what's coming to them.
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These motherfuckers! I keep getting this event. Southern resistance to reconstruction fair enough, though I should be able to fight it. Formation of the Klan, okay, but the Feds put them down in the 1870's. Instead I keep getting this event and there is no way to stop it. Each time it causes militancy in non-Dixie populations of former slave states. Some slave states don't have any Dixie cups and most have them in a minority. For instance Texas is mostly Texan in ethnic makeup, which means they get pissed off by the Klan. I have to quickly use my focus to lower militancy in Southern states or I get uprisings. That's what caused the reactionary uprising. It's also counterintuitive to have Texans rise up to make themselves second class citizens.
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The first landing force in Cuba got beaten back. I came back with three times as many men. Cuba can't stand against that.
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The red rise up, due to the increase militancy. Fortunately there aren't many of them.
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The last great battle of the Cuban War
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The Secret Police aren't hiring anymore.
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Damn you Valmy!
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Now Marty is going to call me a pathetic "White Knight".
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We finally move an army over to show the Siamese a thing or two.
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FUCK YOU!
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So we get more Reds
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Sometimes good ideas come from weird places.
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While I wasn't looking WWI broke out.
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And then WWII broke out. Meanwhile I plan to invade Mexico again.
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By popular demand here is my niece making snow men.
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I invade Mexico and Militant Socialists rise up. I think they were pissed about the war but I'm not sure.
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WWII is over but WWI is still ongoing and running concurrently with WWIII. I wonder if all three Great wars were going on at once.
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So we are at the end, it my government will fall to Socialists in a matter of days. The German empire has pulled out in front, though the US is second place.
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That huge German lead makes me curious to see a map of Europe.
It looks like the Franco-Austrian alliance got trampled. France should have learned from Louis XV, one should never ally with Austria.
God I suck. Illionois left the Union to form a reactionary state in the midst of of a communist rebellion.
Wow, that militant Socialist uprising was huge! Can you tell why they got so angry and rose up? I wonder if you needed to do something more/different in your reforms that may have avoided it?
I like the pic of your niece PoP making snow men armies to help you out. ;)
So what have you been doing wrong Raz? IS it your excessive warmongering? Ignoring some other aspect?
I have to admit massive reactionary and communist revolutions breaking out in the US is not what I expected to see in this. But good on you for making an AAR with a rather mixed record of success. :thumbsup:
a more interesting game than most I wager
Quote from: Barrister on November 18, 2014, 02:57:00 PM
So what have you been doing wrong Raz? IS it your excessive warmongering? Ignoring some other aspect?
I have to admit massive reactionary and communist revolutions breaking out in the US is not what I expected to see in this. But good on you for making an AAR with a rather mixed record of success. :thumbsup:
I don't know exactly. If I did, I'd be better off! I do have high war exhaustion, but the constant rebellions don't really help that. Part of it is my immigration reforms and decisions, which increase militancy, part of it is those fucking Klan events, and some times I have no idea what the hell is happening. I have millions of people angry they don't have a 10 hour work day, so I enact that reform and then I get a socialist rebellion. Honestly I thought this would be easier.
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I think they wrote the game with a dialectic sort of idea so that it will be inevitable that you'll wind up with ahistorical proletariat revolutions in just about every game.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 18, 2014, 04:36:38 PM
I think they wrote the game with a dialectic sort of idea so that it will be inevitable that you'll wind up with ahistorical proletariat revolutions in just about every game.
OMG. I don't need to keep looking for that mod anymore! :w00t:
America part 8: Jason takes Manhatten
I sink further and further into failure on this one. I try to keep my country at peace do decrease war exhaustion but that does no good since the constant rebellions up the war exhaustion. I also forgot to turn on FRAPS for a short period so there are no images of that part of American history.
Eddie Teach was curious how Germany was doing so I got some screen shots of Europe.
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I believe last time I was being overthrown by Socialists. Well, the Socialists won. They are polite revolutionaries and don't actually overthrow the government. It's still a democracy and the socialists leave after being voted out. So whatever.
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They don't even force me to stop my war. The British on the other hand are taken over by Reactionaries and now have an absolutist government. Which is a bit absurd since the queen is not that interested in politics.
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Goddamn it!
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I run out of things to research until 1900. No more science for you!
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Okay this part bears some explaining, I started up the game but forgot to start FRAPs so when I thought I was taking pictures I was not. During this time I have a major communist revolt, and some Mexican patriots and three countries formed out of my country. New England, Dakota and the New American Allegiance (which looks like they have the flag of Missouri).
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Also I think WWIV broke out, and now there is a Soviet Union. Austria is communist at the moment, but won't stay that way.
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They really have a lot of balls to ask this of me. I'm going to try to be peaceful for a while to get my war exhaustion down.
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Goddamn libertarians!
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This is my Pop militancy modifiers. The higher the militancy the more likely I'll see a revolt. I don't understand it.
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This late in the game I get all sorts of weird messages.
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Finally some good news, though it is a bit late.
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I don't know why this keeps happening to me. For now I just let them seize government and go on my way.
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And so the Socialists overthrow the government once again only to keep democracy so they'll be voted out in four years.
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At least we invent Rag-time music!
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Here's the US at end of the session. War exhaustion is higher then it was before I tried my peace strategy. I'm just going to conquer New England next time and kill Bill Belichick and wound Timmy.
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I may shift away from my conquer latin American strategy and just see if I can destroy Germany.
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Lysander Spooner sighting! :w00t:
Raz, this mod is more economically complex than the base game. Should I let earlier versions of factories go bankrupt and destroy them?
Raz you can't rely on the average MIL rating to figure out what is going on. You have to look at the specific POP groups that are giving you trouble, and monitor the revolters tab. For example, if you have groups of chronically unemployed craftsmen, they are an obvious risk of revolt. If you have lots of bad WE that could be a problem too. Can't tell what is going on w/o looking deeper.
FWIW I am currently at 1912 in a Russia game and most of the governments are normal - HM monarchies, some PCs, some democracies, some absolutists still left too. The exceptions are Germany which went fascist after losing a Great War and Brazil which went communist after a bankruptcy.
I have lots of unemployed farmers and laborers, though I have no idea how to get them to work. Often it shows that I have nobody working at the RGOs. My tactics is mostly to find the areas that have high revolt risk and use the the "order" focus on them. I'm also reforming my military. I intend to destroy Germany, and as such am allying with France.
Quote from: Razgovory on November 20, 2014, 03:35:08 AMI intend to destroy Germany, and as such am allying with France.
....Have you thought this through?
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 20, 2014, 04:21:05 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 20, 2014, 03:35:08 AMI intend to destroy Germany, and as such am allying with France.
....Have you thought this through?
:lol:
Worked in real life though.
Quote from: Razgovory on November 20, 2014, 03:35:08 AM
I have lots of unemployed farmers and laborers, though I have no idea how to get them to work. Often it shows that I have nobody working at the RGOs. My tactics is mostly to find the areas that have high revolt risk and use the the "order" focus on them. I'm also reforming my military. I intend to destroy Germany, and as such am allying with France.
How is that in your strategic interest?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 20, 2014, 08:38:20 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 20, 2014, 03:35:08 AM
I have lots of unemployed farmers and laborers, though I have no idea how to get them to work. Often it shows that I have nobody working at the RGOs. My tactics is mostly to find the areas that have high revolt risk and use the the "order" focus on them. I'm also reforming my military. I intend to destroy Germany, and as such am allying with France.
How is that in your strategic interest?
Because it's a game and Germany is beating him.
See, Teach gets it.
But your ahistorical borders might not be realistic!
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 20, 2014, 04:21:05 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 20, 2014, 03:35:08 AMI intend to destroy Germany, and as such am allying with France.
....Have you thought this through?
Obviously he did
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The Tulsa World really knew how to put it all in perspective
Quote from: sbr on November 20, 2014, 10:31:04 PM
But your ahistorical borders might not be realistic!
:yes:
Borders should be realistic or aesthetically pleasing.
I need some place to launch my attacks from, which means a base in Europe. Unfortunately I've had another reactionary outbreak and they set up a dictatorship again. I am so tired of that bullshit.
America: the Never Ending story
Sorry for the delay on this one. I'm starting to lose enthusiasm as I go into the final stretch. I've done a fairly miserable job at the game so far.
I've been looking into why people are rebelling. I found a bunch of lazy farmer who won't work. They are unemployed and I can't seem to make them work. It might be because of a glut in Dye. Still I don't know what to do about it.
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Well, I decide to solve the problems that bothering me now. For instance New England is Independent. I invade to put an end to Tom Brady once and for all. It doesn't quite go as planned. The battle for New York looks like it should be an easy win.
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It's not.
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I finally crush the Patriot army.
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Dakota realizes that shit has gotten real.
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After New England is beaten we move on to Illinois. During the war we make a very unlikely discovery.
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He seemed okay to me.
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Goddamn it! Next time I play this I'm modifying this event
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So naturally we have a reactionary revolt
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Half a million besiege Washington.
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Goodbye Democracy!
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Hello raving lunatic. Hey, wait a second weren't you just here?
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Well the Seduction community is happy at least.
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We have a big earthquake and develop the doctrine of fascism. On the plus side we got a new ideology!
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The uprising brought my war exhaustion up. It's like a vicious circle.
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The next invention is overwrought reviews from Ide
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Well it seems nobody is happy with the new government
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I can never catch a break it seems.
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More good news.
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And the government falls down again.
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Oh, and I didn't get a screen shot but the newly elected government has that raving lunatic in charge. Guy is really versatile. Shame he increases militancy.
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And now women can vote again. This reduces my war exhaustion to zero!
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Libertarians seize power in Mexico and created a dictatorship.
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The US conquers the South Pole!
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And the situation in Europe as I end. France went Red which broke my alliance with them. It also made them pacifists and they are losing a war with the Netherlands. My goal is still to create an alliance against Germany and knock them off first place. Though it is obvious I'll have to do all he heavy lifting. Fortunately I have the best military in the world.
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You seem really unlucky. My game has reached that far but though I had one big reactionary rebellion, it wasn't large enough to topple the government. I broke them in Washington, but they only had 180k men there, not the 500k + you've had.
It seems like these huge insurrections are happening with only about 3 militancy. Is it just way lopsided with certain pops outraged and most of the rest asleep?
It seems reforms trigger massive revolts. I end mandatory service and half a million militant socialists overthrow the government. Like the next day.
Apparently I bought this a while back on Gamer's Gate. Anyone know if Paradox offers a Steam key conversion or somesuch? I recall they have done something similar before.
Quote from: Habbaku on November 24, 2014, 10:06:44 PM
Apparently I bought this a while back on Gamer's Gate. Anyone know if Paradox offers a Steam key conversion or somesuch? I recall they have done something similar before.
Check Pdox's site. I think you can plug them into Steam.
Quote from: Razgovory on November 24, 2014, 07:22:23 PM
It seems reforms trigger massive revolts. I end mandatory service and half a million militant socialists overthrow the government. Like the next day.
That should not happen if you are picking the preferred reform. On the contrary, picking the preferred reform should give you a nice drop in MIL.
Quote from: Habbaku on November 24, 2014, 10:06:44 PM
Apparently I bought this a while back on Gamer's Gate. Anyone know if Paradox offers a Steam key conversion or somesuch? I recall they have done something similar before.
Gamer's Gate still seem to offer this product up to the latest patch (3.03.) I used a bunch of leftover blue coins to buy both expansions there a couple of weeks ago (they were both massively on sale - I had an 80% discount on one of them IIRC.)
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 25, 2014, 10:45:48 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 24, 2014, 07:22:23 PM
It seems reforms trigger massive revolts. I end mandatory service and half a million militant socialists overthrow the government. Like the next day.
That should not happen if you are picking the preferred reform. On the contrary, picking the preferred reform should give you a nice drop in MIL.
It is not a reform preferred by socialists. They militantly want an art endowment, but there aren't enough of them to make 50%.
Because art endowments are often a major driving force behind civil wars and the deaths of hundreds of thousands. :P
Quote from: Razgovory on November 25, 2014, 11:46:38 AM
It is not a reform preferred by socialists. They militantly want an art endowment, but there aren't enough of them to make 50%
OK but you did mouse over with the tool tip to make sure it wouldn't piss off others before picking the reform, right?
I did find that the USA had worse revolt problems than just about any other play through country, but mostly localized ones, with 20-30 brigades. Not these massive continental 500 brigade plus mega uprisings.
Quote from: Agelastus on November 25, 2014, 11:07:36 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on November 24, 2014, 10:06:44 PM
Apparently I bought this a while back on Gamer's Gate. Anyone know if Paradox offers a Steam key conversion or somesuch? I recall they have done something similar before.
Gamer's Gate still seem to offer this product up to the latest patch (3.03.) I used a bunch of leftover blue coins to buy both expansions there a couple of weeks ago (they were both massively on sale - I had an 80% discount on one of them IIRC.)
Thanks to you and Raz for the tips, but it seems like I can't get one. I show Steam keys for a bunch of other stuff I bought on GG, but not Victoria II, unfortunately.
Fortunately for me, all the stuff is on sale on Steam right now--Victoria collection for $9.99 which includes Victoria I, II and all the DLC +2 expansions. Ker-ching!
Okay, I had been putting this off for a while. I started up and kept getting a really weird situation. My ally France is at war Spain. With judicious use of American resources the conflict goes our way. I impose a surrender condition on Spain, and then a few months later I get a message saying that We lost the war and France is partitioned between Germany and Spain. Germany was a Spanish ally, but they were not in the war so I don't get it.
France just wanted to surrender to everyone.
My best guess is to reload and bring Germany into the war and defeat them as well.
16 Million people?
This is what it looks like when I win the Spanish War. Or lose it Or get a white peace.
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I may just reload to before the war.
Quote from: Queequeg on December 08, 2014, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 08, 2014, 07:49:21 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on December 08, 2014, 02:29:30 AM
16 Million people?
Uh... False?
How does America in your game only have under 20 m people?
Oh, it only counts those who are working males. Total population is closer to 80 million. Still lower then historical though.
those Netherlands are glorious... The 17 Provinces reunited...
Raz, could you provide a Great Powers screen when you get the chance, please? Your map of Europe is pretty wild.
In my game, Canada is in 6th place. :uffda:
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on December 08, 2014, 01:51:04 PM
those Netherlands are glorious... The 17 Provinces reunited...
Seems to be a common thing--it's happened in my current game as France as well. I probably should have protected the Belg.
Quote from: Habbaku on December 08, 2014, 04:55:54 PM
Raz, could you provide a Great Powers screen when you get the chance, please? Your map of Europe is pretty wild.
In my game, Canada is in 6th place. :uffda:
I'm going to restart that session because of the weird bug. France should not win a war against Spain and then be forced to lose it's southern half and all of her colonies. That makes no sense. I don't know how to take those screens shots that show the whole map. Canada is a great power in my game as well. I even has a colony in Africa.
Quote from: Habbaku on December 08, 2014, 04:55:54 PM
In my game, Canada is in 6th place. :uffda:
In my last game Canada became a Proletarian Dictatorship. The UK floated between Communist, Jacobin and Anarcho-Liberal revolutions while British India was permanently occupied by Fascists. Germany had been more or less partitioned by France, Austria and Russia (who was also starting to suffer serial revolutions).
Very strange.
The late game is always weird. I reloaded my game at 1912 and Scandinavia insulted me. Now they are at war with me, and their allies in the Netherlands are getting invaded. I'm trying to decide which country to dismantle The Netherlands or Scandinavia. I'm leaning toward Netherlands because I can get a hold of the Dutch East Indies.
America: The Penultimate act.
Sorry this one was delayed so long, the first time it came out screwy, with me winning a war and my ally losing it at the same. Far Cry 4 also came out... But anyway, I finished the decade between 1912 to 1922. Mostly it was preparation for my planned war against Germany, moving troops into France and building alliances with communists. The next decade will be the last, the game ends in 1936 because that's when history ends.
Last time, Mexico went libertarian. It immediately went Red after that.
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And naturally this event fired. God how I hate this event.
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In major innovation of make-work, Cal is invented.
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Scandinavia insults me and I declare war which brings in their ally the Netherlands. The Scandis invade American Colombia, but lose their fleet and die in the jungle. I capture Greenland, Iceland, the Faeroes and eventually invade the Netherlands.
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At the same time the Soviets invade Scandinavia, to conquer more tundra. Any time a country goes communist it's color goes red (if the go fascist they go grey), this makes it difficult to tell countries apart. France, Russia and Turkey are Communist though Turkey has been renamed the Near East Popular Union.
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The three wars going concurrently.
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I am not in the mood to deal with Russian bullshit.
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I do like the Blues, so our cultural accomplishments are going well.
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The First minister or "President" as we call him, was a political survivor, weathering revolutions and uprisings. I'm sort of sad to see him go.
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After having conquered the Netherlands, I dismantle the country. A few odd things happen. I thought that this might create Belgium, but instead it creates a smaller Wallonia. I get about half the Dutch colonial possessions and the rest go to the Soviet Union, who was not a party to this war. One of the oddities of the programing for the mod I think. The game seems to give out possession to who ever has a ceasefire with the defeated power.
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I don't remember why I took this screen shot.
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My new Empire in South-East Asia. I already owned half of New Guinea. The red parts are those provinces awarded to the Soviets. This increased my infamny levels pretty high, but I found I out I reduce it by five points for each country I release, no matter the size. So I release a few minor states like Biafra (I also got some of Africa).
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Melanesian women need virile American men!
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We capture Geronimo, a task made easier by the fact he's been dead for ten years.
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As you can see, American soldiers are preparing in France. Metropolitan France is quickly becoming the world's largest military camp.
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The United States begins fabricating a cause for war with the intent of destroying Germany. A mere week before hostilities, the US secures an alliance with the Soviet Union. Germany, has for some reason decided to wage a colonial war against The NEPU (or the Turks), for for North Africa. Causing them to shift large numbers of soldiers south and call up reserves.
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American plans to justify the war are discovered so I release a few more tiny countries as satellites. On May 22, the US ambassador hands his German counterpart a declaration of war. Two days later France, the Soviet Union, and the Shogunate of Japan declare for the US. Spain refuses to join the war as it is fighting a communist insurgency itself. On May 24 American soldiers leave their starting positions and invade the German Empire.
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Europe at the beginning of the War of American Aggression. Note that Serbia has joined Germany.
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The scores in 1922
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Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
Germany... didn't win.
Quote from: Razgovory on December 14, 2014, 09:39:57 PM
Germany... didn't win.
:lol:
Yes, but... How many points? Will you win?
Germany was hit hard. Really hard. They are 2nd place, but I don't think they can come back. Massive lost of prestige along with all their colonies, Parts of Poland and oddly half of Bavaria. They day after I ended my war on Germany, Austria declared war on them. I also imposed a communist government on them in the hopes that it would cause turmoil.
Well finished it tonight. The thrilling conclusion will be posted soon!
America: The final chapter.
This part is a little long since it goes from 1922 to 1936. In the end, I win. Win big, so despite my incompetance at governing everything comes out (fairly) alright. The last AAR I was launching a war against Germany.
On the Eastern front neither the Soviet Union of Imperial Germany have really a lot of forces on the ground. The war will be fought by reservists for the most part.
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Major battles occur in Western Germany while the President of Paraguay is murdered.
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As you can see, the majority of the Germany army is out fighting in Africa, leaving the home country defenseless.
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Franco-American forces overrun Germany and invent sub-par canned pasta.
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US plunges world into war, Crisis averted.
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The war goes well, Germany is also distracted in waging a war against Turkey.
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Pretty much nothing is standing in my way.
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War produces a significant number of explosions.
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Colombia is an ally of Germany, and invades American territory. They are ill prepared for US mustard gas.
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This one is a big a head scratcher. For some reason, the part of Java that was controlled by the soviet Union is now a communist ally of Germany. They invade some of colonial holdings.
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German navy is destroyed by it's American counterpart.
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Germany sues for peace, forced to adopt a communist government.
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When the war ends, Austria invades Germany. This delays the peace process somewhat. After that war is finaly over we get our hand on the Germany colonies.
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Germany is in shambles, and most of Europe is red.
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Germany loses it's African colonies, the Soviets seem to get more then their fair share. Distribution is random.
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The war ended in a little over a year making the US the world greatest power. I took lot of screen shots of the war, but there is still more then a decade left, so I'll finish the rest in another post.
America part 12: The Final Chapter: part 2
Now that I'm comfortably in the lead, I really have no concrete goals. American develops the "Fucking around" doctrine.
I station some of my Troops in the Soviet Union, because nothing can go wrong with that.
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The US develops Naval war games
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And with that the history of science is over.
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An international crisis breaks out and I force Italy to give up Slovenia.
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Italy and Austria have war. Also the Soviet Union asks my help with Mongolia which is fascist. I say "yes", and let them do their thing.
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Despite having the worlds most sophisticated military, bad doctrine becomes the norm.
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A British regiment wanders across my border triggering World War V. Canada Invades the US. I was a bit caught off guard by that. The Soviet Union sided with Britain, despite me having a large army inside their borders. That's where the war will be one. In America I call up all the reservists to hold back the Canadian tide. I do notice that the Canucks don't have gas masks though.
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Despite the Canadian invasion WWV is going quite well. The US army has destroyed much of the Red Army and occupies much Poland and Belarus and into Russia itself. The Us is easily able to beat the Royal Navy allowing me to cut off Britain. Unfortunately I didn't many screenshots. Britain caves in fairly quickly.
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Shortly after the war, Jacobin rebels force some reforms on the British Monarchy.
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Because I'm not as welcome in the Soviet Union as before I shift my troops to Austria where I decide to declare war on Germany to liberate Luxembourg (Pan German radicals conquered that country and it was annexed by Germany).
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That's not really a good enough reason to fight a war, but whatever. France doesn't join the war, but I can attack Germany from there anyway. Spain joins Germany but I don't actually notice. I do destroy a bunch Spanish wooden ships of the Line with a Dreadnaughts.
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Germany quickly gives up and Luxembourg is free. A new age of American foreign policy is born in the Transdanubian crisis. This new foreign policy is know as "I clicked the wrong thing", doctrine
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And so the new nation of Hungary is born. What started out as me laughing and dismissing the idea as stupid turned into a drive for Magyar independence because I was laughing so hard I couldn't see straight.
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Hungary becomes independent without any bloodshed and decides to push their luck by invading Banat dragging me into a war with Austria.
And... Imgur doesn't want to cooperate anymore, so I'll post the rest of this later.
Okay, last part I hope.
Hungary dragged me into a war with Austria with Hungary almost immediately after getting their independence. I decide the dismember the remants of the Austrian empire for shits and grins. They also some really weird looking tanks.
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Something is invented that has such great repercussions that I don't even know what it is.
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I win the war but Austria is not dismantled. Romania took the opportunity to declare war on Austria after I defeated them and so the dismantling of the Austrian state is delayed, and game ends before it occurs. Oh well. Our industry gets a little out of hand.
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And now a few screens of the end game. Here's what Europe looks like
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Africa
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S. America
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N. America I forgot to mention that after WWV I took the British Caribbean.
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Oceaniana
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And Asia.
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Final Score Britain has fallen behind Italy... Raz wins!
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Thank you for taking the time to finish this.
How did the collective Indian states get to be so strong? Even heavily splintered, just the three principal powers would surpass everyone except for America if their points were combined.
Quote from: Lettow77 on December 19, 2014, 12:26:12 AM
Thank you for taking the time to finish this.
How did the collective Indian states get to be so strong? Even heavily splintered, just the three principal powers would surpass everyone except for America if their points were combined.
They are civilized nations with good infrastructure and huge populations. China never fully westernized. Japan did, but retain the shogunate, no idea why.
Nice AAR, Raz.
That the communists have huge colonial holdings in Africa amuses me.
Anyone have any hints on making craftsmen and clerks? Russia is super hard.
Also, is there a way of determining what cores a satellite gets? I have no interest in Congressional Poland-it's super hard to defend-but don't want them to take a chunk out of Belarus and Ukraine.
A completed AAR? :o
Nice work Raz, I enjoyed following it.