http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/28/its-time-for-american-jihad/
"An American jihad would reawaken in American citizens the certain knowledge that our Constitution is a sacred document that better defines and preserves the liberty and autonomy of human beings than the charter of any other nation on earth."
"We would urge our leaders, after their service in the U.S. Senate and Congress, to seek dual citizenship in other nations, like France and Italy and Sweden and Argentina and Brazil and Germany, and work to influence those nations to adopt laws very much like our own. We might even fund our leaders' campaigns for office in these other nations."
:lmfao:
In the video, he uses the phrase "manifest destiny," in addition to other hilarious statements. This is comedy gold. Someone must have invented a time machine and got this guy from the 19th century.
Quote from: JonasSalk on October 29, 2014, 08:38:18 PM
"We would urge our leaders, after their service in the U.S. Senate and Congress, to seek dual citizenship in other nations, like France and Italy and Sweden and Argentina and Brazil and Germany, and work to influence those nations to adopt laws very much like our own. We might even fund our leaders' campaigns for office in these other nations."
Misery loves company?
Quote from: JonasSalk on October 29, 2014, 08:38:18 PMour Constitution is a sacred document
See, that's the problem with the nutjobs among conservatives - it's holy, must be interpreted literally, and changes are verboten.
Or to quote Thomas Jefferson:
QuoteI am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.
FYI, Syt: they really, really hate Jefferson, too.
Quote from: JonasSalk on October 29, 2014, 08:38:18 PM
:lmfao:
In the video, he uses the phrase "manifest destiny," in addition to other hilarious statements. This is comedy gold. Someone must have invented a time machine and got this guy from the 19th century.
Or just 2003.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 30, 2014, 12:12:01 AM
FYI, Syt: they really, really hate Jefferson, too.
Huh. All right, then.
Quote from: Syt on October 30, 2014, 12:19:50 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 30, 2014, 12:12:01 AM
FYI, Syt: they really, really hate Jefferson, too.
Huh. All right, then.
Though they do like the part about feeding blood to the Tree of Liberty.
I like the part about every country in the world needing to adopt the American constitution - and suffer that kind of governmental dysfunction? No thanks. I will gladly stick with the Parliamentary system.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 30, 2014, 11:15:57 AM
I like the part about every country in the world needing to adopt the American constitution - and suffer that kind of governmental dysfunction? No thanks. I will gladly stick with the Parliamentary system.
When it comes to governments, dysfunction is the best kind of function.
Hey, if America wants to conquer the world I'm sure half of the third world would jump at the chance to be annexed by the US.
Quote from: Tyr on October 30, 2014, 01:49:58 PM
Hey, if America wants to conquer the world I'm sure half of the third world would jump at the chance to be annexed by the US.
Maybe, but we are 0-2 with Iraq and Afghanistan.
He was also kinda forgetting about Vietnam when he went on about the God given right the US has to win all its wars.
And Korea...and Afghanistan...and War of 1812...
Vietnam was an era, not a war.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 30, 2014, 03:52:12 PM
He was also kinda forgetting about Vietnam when he went on about the God given right the US has to win all its wars.
Oh my God never get those dudes going about Vietnam.
Quote from: Valmy on October 30, 2014, 07:10:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 30, 2014, 03:52:12 PM
He was also kinda forgetting about Vietnam when he went on about the God given right the US has to win all its wars.
Oh my God never get those dudes going about Vietnam.
IT WAS A TIE!
Quote from: JonasSalk on October 30, 2014, 06:26:17 PM
And Korea...and Afghanistan...and War of 1812...
Korea was a victory, in that the the overall objective was achieved (protection/liberation of South Korea).
Vietnam/Iraq can be called losses, because the objectives were not achieved (even if the imbalance in casualties against "the enemy" very much on our side...but that didn't work for the Nazis either).
Afghanistan is still an open question....but doesn't look good.
Pancho Villa expedition wasn't exactly a big success. Barbary war wasn't a great victory either.
Quote from: Razgovory on October 30, 2014, 08:35:52 PM
Barbary war wasn't a great victory either.
It wasn't? I thought after that the Barbary Pirates stopped capturing our ships and the Marines won glory on the shores of Tripoli. To be fair I may not be entirely well informed about that conflict.
We won the Korean Expedition of 1871 at least.
Quote from: PDH on October 30, 2014, 07:50:25 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 30, 2014, 07:10:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 30, 2014, 03:52:12 PM
He was also kinda forgetting about Vietnam when he went on about the God given right the US has to win all its wars.
Oh my God never get those dudes going about Vietnam.
IT WAS A TIE!
Nah it was a victory until Jane Fonda singlehandedly undermined the whole war effort.
I thought Shores of Tripoli was a victory too.
It was. Raz is being Razzy.
A quick scan of the wiki articles on the 1st/2nd Barbary Wars make it look like a general clusterfuck, for both sides.
And 8 marines leading hundreds of Greek mercenaries makes the "Shores of Tripoli" seem more of a PR victory (but then it worked for Cortez).
We freed out dudes and didn't pay any more tribute.
Appears Salk is a Canadian spy. Get him!
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 30, 2014, 08:42:31 PM
I thought Shores of Tripoli was a victory too.
It led to Jersey Shore.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 30, 2014, 09:05:50 PM
We freed out dudes and didn't pay any more tribute.
We did pay the tribute, we just called it a ransom. They still took Americans hostages. The second Barbary War seems have bit more of an effect, though the British suppression of piracy in the region was probably a bigger factor.
Quote from: alfred russel on October 30, 2014, 02:52:34 PM
Quote from: Tyr on October 30, 2014, 01:49:58 PM
Hey, if America wants to conquer the world I'm sure half of the third world would jump at the chance to be annexed by the US.
Maybe, but we are 0-2 with Iraq and Afghanistan.
Not really examples of people being asked if they wanted to join the US.
In that case the middle east would likely be a spotty area but many in Africa would jump at it.
Actually, I'd be surprised if any did.
No African regime will want some outsiders cutting in on their corruption.
The regimes wouldnt. Im talking about the people though. Fuck nationalism if it means the freedom to move to the west and massive investment in their land to bring it to western standards.
Quote from: Tyr on November 01, 2014, 03:32:41 PM
The regimes wouldnt. Im talking about the people though. Fuck nationalism if it means the freedom to move to the west and massive investment in their land to bring it to western standards.
The overwhelming majority of infrastructure is financed locally in the US. No free lunch there.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 01, 2014, 04:11:21 PM
Quote from: Tyr on November 01, 2014, 03:32:41 PM
The regimes wouldnt. Im talking about the people though. Fuck nationalism if it means the freedom to move to the west and massive investment in their land to bring it to western standards.
The overwhelming majority of infrastructure is financed locally in the US. No free lunch there.
Puerto Rico's budget is heavily subsidized by the Federal Government IIRC.