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Title: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: Syt on September 07, 2014, 06:06:14 AM
http://www.dw.de/germany-wont-tolerate-sharia-police/a-17906086

QuoteGermany won't tolerate 'Sharia police'

The German government has strongly criticized nightly patrols in the city of Wuppertal by men calling themselves "Sharia police." The 33-year-old behind the patrols claimed that their goal was only to raise attention.

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Conservative members of Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition put forward a united front at the weekend against recent developments in the city of Wuppertal. Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said civilians wearing uniforms bearing the logo "Shariah police" could not simply start patrolling German streets.

The groups reportedly hovered around sites like discotheques and gambling houses, telling passers-by to refrain from gambling and alcohol. Wuppertal's police have begun pressing charges.
"Sharia law is not tolerated on German soil," de Maiziere told mass-circulation daily Bild on Saturday. "Nobody can take it upon themselves to abuse the good name of the German police."

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The Salafist scene includes many German-born converts

Justice Minister Heiko Maas, meanwhile, told Bild that "the state alone" was responsible for the administration of justice in Germany. It was obvious, Maas said, that any illegal parallel system of law enforcement would not be tolerated. Christian Democrat party whip Volker Kauder was similarly emphatic in an interview to be published in this week's Welt am Sonntag newspaper.

"Under absolutely no circumstances can we tolerate self-styled 'Sharia police officers' patrolling our streets and dictating what people should or should not do," Kauder said.

Ringleader: goal was attention

The 33-year-old behind the Wuppertal patrols, former fireman Sven Lau, published a video on his website on Saturday. Lau said that a "Sharia police" never existed, and that a group of men had simply worn the mock uniforms for a few hours.

"We knew that this would raise attention," Lau said, claiming that his goal was to spark a debate about Sharia law in Germany.

Lau is a leading member of Germany's Salafist movement, advocates of a strict Sunni interpretation of political Islam. He works with a mosque in his native Mönchengladbach, not far west of Wuppertal, and used to head the fundamentalist group "Invitation to Paradise." (Einladung zum Paradies, in German.)

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Lau (right in picture) is known to German security services

The central council of Muslims in Germany (ZMD) condemned the activities. "These few teen yobs do not speak in our name," chairman Ayman A. Mazyek told the Tagesspiegel am Sonntag newspaper. "These people are perverting the name of our religion. With this shrill and foolish action, they are really hurting Muslims."

Sharia law is the Arabic term for a legal system based on the Koran. Saudi Arabia and Iran are examples of countries where such a system officially applies. Wearing a veil is obligatory for women and corporal punishment such as stoning is legally tolerated. Human Rights Watch reported last month that Saudi Arabia had beheaded 19 people in just 16 days in August, for convictions on charges ranging from cannabis smuggling to "sorcery."

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Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 07, 2014, 06:21:28 AM
Is "police" a German word?  :hmm:
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: Viking on September 07, 2014, 06:31:47 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 07, 2014, 06:21:28 AM
Is "police" a German word?  :hmm:

Polizei in german.
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: Viking on September 07, 2014, 06:33:38 AM
though germany has a bad history with self organized groups sporting uniformed mono-colored shirts.
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: celedhring on September 07, 2014, 06:52:34 AM
Karma Police was much better, imho.
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 08:37:31 AM
Oh, you wacky Germans and your uniforms.


Here, you walk out of the house with anything on it that says "Police" like that, and you'd be charged on the spot for personation of law enforcement.
Now if you want to walk into Target with your M4 with your car spray-painted with "Militia" all over it, then that's different.
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: Martinus on September 07, 2014, 01:08:06 PM
These fat beardo losers are hilarious.
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: Zanza on September 07, 2014, 01:11:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 08:37:31 AM
Here, you walk out of the house with anything on it that says "Police" like that, and you'd be charged on the spot for personation of law enforcement.
They didn't use the German term or something resembling a police uniform though, which would most likely have been some kind of legal issue. Wearing a t-shirt that says "Shariah Police" or "Fashion Police" or whatever is perfectly legal in Germany. 
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: The Brain on September 07, 2014, 01:29:00 PM
Sam & Max were Freelance Police and it seemed to work great.
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 01:54:25 PM
Quote from: Zanza on September 07, 2014, 01:11:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 08:37:31 AM
Here, you walk out of the house with anything on it that says "Police" like that, and you'd be charged on the spot for personation of law enforcement.
They didn't use the German term or something resembling a police uniform though, which would most likely have been some kind of legal issue. Wearing a t-shirt that says "Shariah Police" or "Fashion Police" or whatever is perfectly legal in Germany.

A reflective safety vest that is usually reserved for first responders and other emergency personnel is really pushing it though, regardless of whether they spelled it in English or Douche.   I'd lock up both their dirty asses on the spot.
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: Ideologue on September 07, 2014, 03:48:01 PM
Do they have badges in the shape of a crescent moon?
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: Norgy on September 07, 2014, 04:30:08 PM
While I am no typical moralist, refraining from alcohol and gambling, particularly when combining the two, isn't such bad advice.

These guys are just offering more food for the far right, though.
And like Seedy, I find anyone wearing a reflective vest, particularly in a group at night, impersonating first responders or authority.
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: citizen k on September 07, 2014, 05:24:43 PM
Quote from: Norgy on September 07, 2014, 04:30:08 PMI find anyone wearing a reflective vest, particularly in a group at night, ...

To be very safety conscious.

Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: celedhring on September 07, 2014, 05:31:31 PM
I wear a reflective vest at night when cycling...
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 06:32:02 PM
yeah, but its doesn't say "Bike Police" on it.
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: Valmy on September 07, 2014, 07:13:56 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 07, 2014, 03:48:01 PM
Do they have badges in the shape of a crescent moon?

They don't need no stinking badges.
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on September 08, 2014, 05:35:41 AM
Quote from: Norgy on September 07, 2014, 04:30:08 PM
While I am no typical moralist, refraining from alcohol and gambling, particularly when combining the two, isn't such bad advice.

but of course these retrogrades don't wish to limit themselves to just that, now do they.
Title: Re: Shariah Police operating in German city
Post by: Tamas on September 08, 2014, 07:56:04 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 06:32:02 PM
yeah, but its doesn't say "Bike Police" on it.

Change your avatar I keep thinking you are Zoupa.