http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Survive_Falling_Through_Ice
QuoteTaking a shortcut across that snow-covered pond seemed like an awesome idea ... until you heard the first crack. Don't panic—you need to think clearly now. Then again, don't be too casual: You've got about 10 minutes before you lose the use of your extremities. Here's how to get out alive, with functioning limbs.
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QuoteDon't hyperventilate
As you hit the water, a physiological reaction known as torso reflex will cause you to gasp for air. Force yourself to take slow, deep breaths. You'll begin to shiver violently and feel intense pain; try to remember that these are natural responses and not life-threatening.
Orient yourself
As you bob in the opening you fell through, turn and face the direction you came from. The ice there was strong enough to hold you until this point, so it should be able to support you as you maneuver out. You don't have time to take a chance on other escape routes.
Lift and kick
Stretch your arms over the ice and shimmy your body up until most of your torso is resting on the ledge. (This way, if you lose consciousness before you're free, you won't slip back under and drown.) Now, as you pull with your arms, kick your legs dolphin-style to propel yourself out.
Recover
Once out, logroll to shore. Resist the urge to rub your arms and legs (which would send the cool blood from your extremities straight to your core) or gulp hot liquids (which would trigger a rush of blood to your skin). Strip, wrap your torso in blankets, and sip a tepid decaf beverage.
Or, don't walk on the fucking ice.
Sometimes you have to.
Ice that can't support a person?
What's that?
Seriously - people drive their trucks on the frozen lakes around here.
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2009, 09:39:39 PM
Ice that can't support a person?
What's that?
Seriously - people drive their trucks on the frozen lakes around here.
Don't people build their homes out of ice where you live too?
Dude, BB, I've never seen a lake that's iced over thick enough to walk on.
Hell, the lake near my house has only been completely iced over maybe.. twice in my lifetime.
I don't consider ice formation to be a naturally occurring phenomena.
What was the impetus for making this post Garbon?
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2009, 09:39:39 PM
Ice that can't support a person?
What's that?
Seriously - people drive their trucks on the frozen lakes around here.
It does...melt, you know.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 15, 2009, 09:52:04 PM
What was the impetus for making this post Garbon?
I'd read a book where someone drowned when walking on a frozen lake and saw tv show where the same happened to someone. I randomly came across what one should actually do (on the shows they always stand and watch the ice cracking and then swim under solid ice) and thought it was useful info. :)
Speaking of surviving potential hypothermia, this is what Viking's kinsman from the Westman islands here in Iceland went through 25 years ago.
http://www.vikingrune.com/2009/03/true-viking-grit/ (http://www.vikingrune.com/2009/03/true-viking-grit/).
Every 11th of March there's a swimming contest in Viking's hometown where people try to swim that very same distance. Except in an indoor geothermally heated swimming pool.
Quote from: Legbiter on March 15, 2009, 10:08:39 PM
Speaking of surviving potential hypothermia, this is what Viking's kinsman from the Westman islands here in Iceland went through 25 years ago.
http://www.vikingrune.com/2009/03/true-viking-grit/ (http://www.vikingrune.com/2009/03/true-viking-grit/).
Every 11th of March there's a swimming contest in Viking's hometown where people try to swim that very same distance. Except in an indoor geothermally heated swimming pool.
I met the guy, he is so fat it he got hit on by whales while swimming ashore.
The pool in Vestmannaeyar is volcanically heated. They pump water into the volcano which erupted in 1973 and pump out the heated water on the other end of the lava.
I skied across the local lagoon, as a shortcut, a few days ago. There were also dozens of people ice skating on it.
Quote from: Tonitrus on March 16, 2009, 12:38:03 AM
I skied across the local lagoon, as a shortcut, a few days ago. There were also dozens of people ice skating on it.
Westchester?
Quote from: garbon on March 15, 2009, 09:33:43 PM
Sometimes you have to.
In that case I'd suggest moving to civilization where they have paved roads and fortified bridges.
All children here have to learn to swim under the ice to an opening and climb out when taking swimming lessons. Of course, it's in a pool and there isn't any ice.
QuoteOpen a Champagne Bottle with a Saber
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1. Choose your weapon and gather your gear. If you've purchased a pricey ornamental champagne saber, whip it out. Otherwise, a solid butcher's knife will do just fine. And have some glasses (and maybe a couple of towels) handy.
2. Be sure to start with a bottle of champagne that is very cold (38-40°F, tops). Remove the foil wrapper and little wire cage. This will make for a clean break, although some people say it's not necessary to remove the packaging.
3. Grasp the bottle properly. That would be firmly, by the base, and pointed away from any onlookers. UrbanDaddy recommends a 30 degree to 45 degree angle, and a close inspection to "locate one of the two vertical seams running up the side of the bottle" to the lip. That intersection is where you'll aim your saber.
4. Do the deed. Run your saber or knife (blunt edge toward the bottle's lip) back along the neck toward your body, then quickly and firmly thrust it back toward the bottle's tip, striking the lip sharply. (UrbanDaddy recommends a solid follow-through.)
5. Enjoy. If you've performed the task properly, the cork (with a little ring of glass around it) will fly off the end of the bottle. You'll then commence pouring the bubbly, and offer a witty toast.
Stuff like this happens all the time, every year. Yet people insist on driving over ice.
At least it would be a quick way to go.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090316.ICE16/TPStory/National
Good info on surviving. It happens - people are on the ice in winter for what ever reasons. Fishing, cross country skiing, crossing over and falling through happens. Helps to have an idea of what to expect, prepare ahead of time.
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2009, 09:39:39 PM
Ice that can't support a person?
What's that?
Seriously - people drive their trucks on the frozen lakes around here.
The people of Leningrad must be fed. Soon we will vanquish the Hitlerite invaders!
Quote from: Malthus on March 16, 2009, 08:36:24 AM
Stuff like this happens all the time, every year. Yet people insist on driving over ice.
At least it would be a quick way to go.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090316.ICE16/TPStory/National
unfortunately they were wearing seatbelts. so they died very quickly. safety first!
Quote from: Korea on March 16, 2009, 09:43:08 AM
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2009, 09:39:39 PM
Ice that can't support a person?
What's that?
Seriously - people drive their trucks on the frozen lakes around here.
The people of Leningrad must be fed. Soon we will vanquish the Hitlerite invaders!
Seriously Ide, stop using Korea's account. If it is actually Korea talking history, you are turning me on.