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QuotePolice Want to Force a 17-Year-Old Accused of Sexting His Girlfriend to Take More Explicit Photos As Evidence
Today in "the whole world is insane": Prosecutors and police in Manassas City, Virginia, have a warrant to photograph a 17-year-old's penis in hopes of convicting him as a sex offender for sending a dirty video to his 15-year-old girlfriend. The boy's lawyer tells the Washington Post that after he refused to plead guilty, prosecutors said they would need to "just take him down to the hospital, give him a shot, and then take the pictures that we need." Of his erect genitalia.
"This is a 17-year-old who goes to school every day, plays football, has never been in trouble with the law before," says his attorney, Jessica Harbeson Foster. "Now he's saddled with two felonies and the implication that he's a sexual predator. I don't mind trying the case. My goal is to stop the search warrant. I don't want him to go through that. Taking him down to the hospital so he can get an erection in front of all those cops, that's traumatizing."
The teen, who was reportedly turned in by his girlfriend's mother after the couple exchanged explicit photos and video, faces charges of possessing and manufacturing child pornography. He could be jailed until he turns 21 and end up on a sex-offender registry for life.
As if it weren't bad enough already, NBC Washington reports that police already photographed the boy's penis when they arrested him, according to his aunt:
Quote"He said they took him to a room and took pictures of his genitalia," Stacy Bigley said. "I asked if they're allowed to do that, and [the 17-year-old] said, 'I tried to refuse,'" which he did, he didn't want to do it. They told him if he did not they would do it by force."
As for the new warrant, the Post reports:
QuoteDespite the request by the prosecutor in court, Prince William County Commonwealth's Attorney Paul B. Ebert said that police told him "these allegations [by the lawyers] lack credibility." He said he would look into the matter further.
The teenager's lawyer said prosecutors have said they will "use special software to compare pictures of this penis to this penis." She added, "Who does this? It's just crazy."
"They're using a statute that was designed to protect children from being exploited in a sexual manner to take a picture of this young man in a sexually explicit manner," said Carlos Flores Laboy, who was appointed by the court to be the boy's guardian. "The irony is incredible." And shameful.
What do you think?
As headlines go, it's too long.
QuoteThe teenager's lawyer said prosecutors have said they will "use special software to compare pictures of this penis to this penis."
There really is an app for everything. :hmm:
Quote from: Malthus on July 10, 2014, 08:05:11 AM
QuoteThe teenager's lawyer said prosecutors have said they will "use special software to compare pictures of this penis to this penis."
There really is an app for everything. :hmm:
Wangr.
Facebook will buy it for 10 billion.
Quote from: Norgy on July 10, 2014, 07:55:07 AM
As headlines go, it's too long.
It's thick with content, though.
The whole world is insane?
QuoteProsecutors and police in Manassas City, Virginia, have a warrant to photograph a 17-year-old's penis in hopes of convicting him as a sex offender for sending a dirty video to his 15-year-old girlfriend.
:huh:
:wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
Sex kills.
This is something I don't get about lawyers. As a prosecutor, how do you sleep at night after trying to railroad a young man with grave charges that were clearly not meant to address that situation? It almost seems like you need to have a mindset of a contract killer to do this job; you don't care how a file came on your desk, your job is to put a couple of .22 bullets in your assigned file's head.
Seriously? Stupid prosecutor would have had less of a stretch going for public indecency (hi, judge, the photo was indecent. When he texted it, it became public).
Quote from: Legbiter on July 10, 2014, 09:32:28 AM
QuoteProsecutors and police in Manassas City, Virginia, have a warrant to photograph a 17-year-old's penis in hopes of convicting him as a sex offender for sending a dirty video to his 15-year-old girlfriend.
:huh:
:wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
Prosecutors are appointed to use their good sense about what the public interest demands they do. It sure seems like too many of them instead just go for trying to convict as many people as possible on as severe terms as possible rather than what their actual mandate is. Trying to convict all these teens of felonies and put them on sex offender lists for youthful shenanigans is a betrayal of their mandate and waste of public money and resources. Not to mention morally bankrupt and reprehensible but they are lawyers so I understand the futility to bringing up that point.
I'm still trying to get past the "give him a shot" thing. Would this be right in the... you know?? :pinch:
Quote from: derspiess on July 10, 2014, 11:21:12 AM
I'm still trying to get past the "give him a shot" thing. Would this be right in the... you know?? :pinch:
Maybe they just plan to shoot him and photograph the post-mortem erection.
They could at least get him a fluffer. <_<
Quote from: derspiess on July 10, 2014, 11:21:12 AM
I'm still trying to get past the "give him a shot" thing. Would this be right in the... you know?? :pinch:
Butt? Probably not, that would make the whole thing weird.
Anyway, yeah, giving him a forced erection in order to photograph it...that prosecutor's making his own child pornography. :yeahright:
Quote from: Valmy on July 10, 2014, 10:04:51 AM
Prosecutors are appointed to use their good sense about what the public interest demands they do. It sure seems like too many of them instead just go for trying to convict as many people as possible on as severe terms as possible rather than what their actual mandate is. Trying to convict all these teens of felonies and put them on sex offender lists for youthful shenanigans is a betrayal of their mandate and waste of public money and resources. Not to mention morally bankrupt and reprehensible but they are lawyers so I understand the futility to bringing up that point.
Aren't many of them elected? Or the local DAs are? Maybe that's part of the problem. People don't want wise prosecutorial restraint but maximum sentences and maximum penalties.
Paul B. Ebert seems to be the child pornographer in question.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pwcgov.org%2Fgovernment%2Fcourts%2Fca%2FPublishingImages%2FPaul%2520Ebert.jpg&hash=353cb96571252d24c8d41a3b4b7a0ec6b28e3cf5)
http://www.pwcgov.org/government/courts/ca/Pages/Commonwealth-Attorney.aspx (http://www.pwcgov.org/government/courts/ca/Pages/Commonwealth-Attorney.aspx)
Somebody should make a citizen's arrest or something, this guy's still at large.
I have to admit, that's a pretty ingenious way to get to see a boy's erect penis.
Quote from: DGuller on July 10, 2014, 12:20:11 PM
I have to admit, that's a pretty ingenious way to get to see a boy's erect penis.
Now how to get the mouthfeel.
Quote from: Valmy on July 10, 2014, 10:04:51 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on July 10, 2014, 09:32:28 AM
QuoteProsecutors and police in Manassas City, Virginia, have a warrant to photograph a 17-year-old's penis in hopes of convicting him as a sex offender for sending a dirty video to his 15-year-old girlfriend.
:huh:
:wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
Prosecutors are appointed to use their good sense about what the public interest demands they do. It sure seems like too many of them instead just go for trying to convict as many people as possible on as severe terms as possible rather than what their actual mandate is. Trying to convict all these teens of felonies and put them on sex offender lists for youthful shenanigans is a betrayal of their mandate and waste of public money and resources. Not to mention morally bankrupt and reprehensible but they are lawyers so I understand the futility to bringing up that point.
Any of you defenders of freedom wanna double-back on how gross Romeo and Juliet laws are now?
Also, I love how the girl wasn't charged. 14th Amendment? WTF is the 14th Amendment?
Quote from: Ideologue on July 10, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
Also, I love how the girl wasn't charged. 14th Amendment? WTF is the 14th Amendment?
Who's questioning the validity of the public debt here?
:P
It looks like the poor kid will no longer be forced to show them his erection.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3-ec.buzzfed.com%2Fstatic%2F2014-07%2F9%2F12%2Fenhanced%2Fwebdr07%2Fenhanced-17320-1404924415-7.png&hash=8ac49bfcd7e8a8194bab3c87f386cdf43f666cc2)
When you were in high school, how skiivy was it for a 17 year old dude to try to nail a 15 year old chick?
:ph34r:
The world is fucked up and the girls mother needs a good haughty slap
When I saw this story in the WaPo I was sure it'd be PG County Sheriff's in Maryland, how embarrassed I was to realize it was some VA city cops.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on July 12, 2014, 11:48:18 AM
When I saw this story in the WaPo I was sure it'd be PG County Sheriff's in Maryland, how embarrassed I was to realize it was some VA city cops.
PG County would've taken the pic and then would've shot him via accidental discharge while attempting to subdue him from "resisting."
No, this is just average VA townie cop tardism.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 12, 2014, 02:52:20 PM
No, this is just average VA townie cop tardism.
No, this is the cops in the city of Manassas (well, "city" by legal definition). It's not Barnie Fifes acting here. These are guys who should know better. It's not their first rodeo.
I thought it was Bull Run.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 12, 2014, 03:43:31 PM
I thought it was Bull Run.
Nope. Manassas is the city, Bull Run is the creek and battlefield nearby.
The Bull Run Watershed is 26 miles east of Portland.
Quote from: sbr on July 12, 2014, 04:47:19 PM
The Bull Run Watershed is 26 miles east of Portland.
A shed made
out of water, or made to
hold water? In any case, I'd rather have a battlefield than any mere shed.
A shed battle does sounds sort of white trash.
I knew grumbler would post in this thread. The title has all the key words to pique his interest:
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Quote from: alfred russel on July 12, 2014, 06:45:02 PM
I knew grumbler would post in this thread. The title has all the key words to pique his interest:
virginia pictures 17 year old penis
:huh: Raz, is that you?
No, I'm over here. But I'm glad you are talking to me again, even if you are bit near-sighted. :)
Quote from: Valmy on July 10, 2014, 10:04:51 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on July 10, 2014, 09:32:28 AM
QuoteProsecutors and police in Manassas City, Virginia, have a warrant to photograph a 17-year-old's penis in hopes of convicting him as a sex offender for sending a dirty video to his 15-year-old girlfriend.
:huh:
:wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
Prosecutors are appointed to use their good sense about what the public interest demands they do. It sure seems like too many of them instead just go for trying to convict as many people as possible on as severe terms as possible rather than what their actual mandate is. Trying to convict all these teens of felonies and put them on sex offender lists for youthful shenanigans is a betrayal of their mandate and waste of public money and resources. Not to mention morally bankrupt and reprehensible but they are lawyers so I understand the futility to bringing up that point.
Turns out is actually not possible for a lawyer to morally bankrupt. I know this because a bunch of lawyers told me so.
Quote from: grumbler on July 12, 2014, 07:26:13 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on July 12, 2014, 06:45:02 PM
I knew grumbler would post in this thread. The title has all the key words to pique his interest:
virginia pictures 17 year old penis
:huh: Raz, is that you?
Sorry grumbler, you have to give me some credit for maturing the last 10 years, but sometimes I can't help myself. Its like the scorpion and the frog.
Quote from: Berkut on July 12, 2014, 08:47:38 PM
Turns out is actually not possible for a lawyer to morally bankrupt. I know this because a bunch of lawyers told me so.
Well, of course lawyers can't
become morally bankrupt. It's just like with finance--you come into the world with none, but you're not bankrupt at that point--you have to acquire some money, and then lose it all to become bankrupt. For a lawyer to become bankrupt, he'd have to have some morals to lose first.
:D
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 12, 2014, 12:38:23 AM
When you were in high school, how skiivy was it for a 17 year old dude to try to nail a 15 year old chick?
Less than zero.
Quote from: dps on July 12, 2014, 10:00:45 PM
Quote from: Berkut on July 12, 2014, 08:47:38 PM
Turns out is actually not possible for a lawyer to morally bankrupt. I know this because a bunch of lawyers told me so.
Well, of course lawyers can't become morally bankrupt. It's just like with finance--you come into the world with none, but you're not bankrupt at that point--you have to acquire some money, and then lose it all to become bankrupt. For a lawyer to become bankrupt, he'd have to have some morals to lose first.
:D
Sounds like commie talk. Rent-seeking is as American as apple pie.