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This is THE boardgame to play WW1, with a lot of very plausible alt-history options. Putting it simply, I haven't felt like re-living the probable problems and dilemmas of period leaders in any other board game as much as this one.
The military level is very high operational/strategic, with units being around corps level. But you have economics, politics, diplomacy, technology. Just awesome stuff.
It does take some effort to learn but compared to the level of simulation and fun gameplay achieved, not much at all.
Consimworld topic with all possible documentation:
http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX/.ee6d67e
VASSAL module:
https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B8DUPGYJjUlLcEpNTF9yaElqY2s&export=download
It works with anything from 2 to 4. Two is more work for a single player but with 4 there is noticeable downtime in PBEM.
Tamas, are there any WW1 games that dont turning turn West to North?
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 07, 2014, 09:29:06 AM
Tamas, are there any WW1 games that dont turning turn West to North?
:rolleyes: it makes sense with the board game, and FYI in the Vassal module it is normally orientated IIRC.
Isn't this the board game AGEOD's World War One was based on? Why not just play that?
Still haven't found a decent copy priced less than a BMW car payment. :glare:
I'd love to Tamas but I can't handle that many hexes. -_-
I bought this game in France way back in the day. Unfortunately I do not have the time to play it :(
Sell it to me or Seedy. :P
Yeah, T...what with Vassal and docs online, you no longer need a hard copy. Let us relieve you of that burden.
Quote from: Ancient Demon on July 07, 2014, 06:34:32 PM
Isn't this the board game AGEOD's World War One was based on? Why not just play that?
It seems it's no longer AGEOD's title. I've seen it pop up as "improved" "Centennial Edition" on Steam, no mention of AGEOD.
Quote from: Syt on July 07, 2014, 11:15:50 PM
Quote from: Ancient Demon on July 07, 2014, 06:34:32 PM
Isn't this the board game AGEOD's World War One was based on? Why not just play that?
It seems it's no longer AGEOD's title. I've seen it pop up as "improved" "Centennial Edition" on Steam, no mention of AGEOD.
http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?36020-What-is-World-War-One-Centennial-Edition
Quote from: calvinusHi all, WW1 Centennial Edition is a new and separate game. I ceded all rights to another company, nothing related to AgeOD, and with no commitment for me (being out of business from PC games already for some years), except for the required knowledge transfer, of course.
This company worked out a brand new graphic engine supported game, much faster and more stable than WW1G, with new graphics, a much improved map, more animated sprites, etc. etc.
I have no idea if that company is going to deliver any "kit" to upgrade WW1G to WW1CE, and if this can be done...
Quote from: Syt on July 07, 2014, 11:15:50 PM
Quote from: Ancient Demon on July 07, 2014, 06:34:32 PM
Isn't this the board game AGEOD's World War One was based on? Why not just play that?
It seems it's no longer AGEOD's title. I've seen it pop up as "improved" "Centennial Edition" on Steam, no mention of AGEOD.
It's.... complicated.
As for why not WW1 Gold instead of the boardgame: I played WW1G to death in SP, but the MP portion of it needs a very quick and stable connection to work without issues. So, eg. LAN is very fine, cross-continent MP, not so much. :(
Plus, I miss the original counters and such.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 07, 2014, 09:25:27 PM
Yeah, T...what with Vassal and docs online, you no longer need a hard copy. Let us relieve you of that burden.
I think he meant Valmy :P I am never departing with my copy.
If you accept a complete noob, I'd be interested in a WW1 game. Should be able to learn the rules fast enough.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 08, 2014, 04:28:33 AM
If you accept a complete noob, I'd be interested in a WW1 game. Should be able to learn the rules fast enough.
Of course, you have been one of the most reliable pbem opponents around here. :)
Quote from: Habbaku on July 07, 2014, 08:59:19 PM
Sell it to me or Seedy. :P
It is entirely in French.
English rules are online.
SIgh. Maybe I should figure out what is wrong with VASSAL...
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2014, 10:48:41 AM
SIgh. Maybe I should figure out what is wrong with VASSAL...
:rolleyes:
Yes, you should
You could team up with Habbaku. Solmyr and I would kick your asses.
Quote from: Tamas on July 08, 2014, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2014, 10:48:41 AM
SIgh. Maybe I should figure out what is wrong with VASSAL...
:rolleyes:
Yes, you should
You could team up with Habbaku. Solmyr and I would kick your asses.
Wouldnt Berkut have to complete the turn in which your foot makes contact with his ass for that to happen?
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 08, 2014, 11:33:05 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 08, 2014, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2014, 10:48:41 AM
SIgh. Maybe I should figure out what is wrong with VASSAL...
:rolleyes:
Yes, you should
You could team up with Habbaku. Solmyr and I would kick your asses.
Wouldnt Berkut have to complete the turn in which your foot makes contact with his ass for that to happen?
Good point :(
At any rate, Solmyr, try getting familiar with the rules. You can pretty much limit yourself to the movement war rules and diplomacy for now. Rest comes alive in September or October.
I will take a look at fiddling with the vassal module itself. as I can see the tech chit selection is not random in it, which is a bit of bummer. Not a show stopper by far, but still kinda annoying.
Because, BTW people, that is how research works: each turn (from October) you draw a number of chits (two IIRC) from a pool that is year-dependant (no tanks in 1914, sorry). Then you select which one you want to research. So it definitely leaves room for a custom route yet you cannot utilise historical hindsight.
Did he really just challenge Berkut+Habs?
Seriously?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 07, 2014, 06:38:07 PM
Still haven't found a decent copy priced less than a BMW car payment. :glare:
Damn it I never should have punched the counters and opened the box and played several games should I? Probably lost thousands.
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2014, 12:37:00 PM
Did he really just challenge Berkut+Habs?
Seriously?
Well I know it is not entirely balanced, but I will give you two some advantage to compensate.
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2014, 12:37:00 PM
Did he really just challenge Berkut+Habs?
Seriously?
It has the advantage of at least one side always handing in its turns.
Tamas isn't that bad - he almost never forgets his turns until he starts losing badly.
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2014, 02:57:04 PM
Tamas isn't that bad - he almost never forgets his turns until he starts losing badly.
Talk about projecting.
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2014, 12:50:54 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 07, 2014, 06:38:07 PM
Still haven't found a decent copy priced less than a BMW car payment. :glare:
Damn it I never should have punched the counters and opened the box and played several games should I? Probably lost thousands.
Depends on whether you can prove you have all the counters.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 08, 2014, 03:20:37 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2014, 12:50:54 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 07, 2014, 06:38:07 PM
Still haven't found a decent copy priced less than a BMW car payment. :glare:
Damn it I never should have punched the counters and opened the box and played several games should I? Probably lost thousands.
Depends on whether you can prove you have all the counters.
there is only about 1600 of them, should be easy
Quote from: Tamas on July 07, 2014, 09:24:37 AM
Ok, one more try: looking for opponents!!!
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This is THE boardgame to play WW1, with a lot of very plausible alt-history options. Putting it simply, I haven't felt like re-living the probable problems and dilemmas of period leaders in any other board game as much as this one.
The military level is very high operational/strategic, with units being around corps level. But you have economics, politics, diplomacy, technology. Just awesome stuff.
It does take some effort to learn but compared to the level of simulation and fun gameplay achieved, not much at all.
Consimworld topic with all possible documentation:
http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX/.ee6d67e
VASSAL module:
https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B8DUPGYJjUlLcEpNTF9yaElqY2s&export=download
It works with anything from 2 to 4. Two is more work for a single player but with 4 there is noticeable downtime in PBEM.
How is the module you linked here (which VASSAL won't let me import because it says it is invalid) different from this one:
http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:La_Grande_Guerre_14-18
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2014, 02:57:04 PM
Tamas isn't that bad - he almost never forgets his turns until he starts losing badly.
He should play Ludendorff then, for realism.
I don't suppose anyone has put together a ZIP file with the 456 different rules/scenario books/setup guides, etc., etc. for this?
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2014, 04:43:03 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 07, 2014, 09:24:37 AM
Ok, one more try: looking for opponents!!!
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This is THE boardgame to play WW1, with a lot of very plausible alt-history options. Putting it simply, I haven't felt like re-living the probable problems and dilemmas of period leaders in any other board game as much as this one.
The military level is very high operational/strategic, with units being around corps level. But you have economics, politics, diplomacy, technology. Just awesome stuff.
It does take some effort to learn but compared to the level of simulation and fun gameplay achieved, not much at all.
Consimworld topic with all possible documentation:
http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX/.ee6d67e
VASSAL module:
https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B8DUPGYJjUlLcEpNTF9yaElqY2s&export=download
It works with anything from 2 to 4. Two is more work for a single player but with 4 there is noticeable downtime in PBEM.
How is the module you linked here (which VASSAL won't let me import because it says it is invalid) different from this one:
http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:La_Grande_Guerre_14-18
The one I linked (and which I can open, just open it from vassal instead of trying to double click it or anything) has English tabs for instance, and in general seems to be the better one.
Oh and I was wrong about the module I linked: it does random selection for techs and such, so nice one!
I've always wanted to play a First World War game, though I've never so much as played a wargame of any time period. :( Perhaps I shall dig into the rules for this game and eventually be able to be a junior, junior partner and control Austria-Hungary or Italy some day. I can't imagine them being under the control of a total newbie would result in much worse than historical results. :lol:
OK, got it working. Needed to open rather than import.
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2014, 02:57:04 PM
Tamas isn't that bad - he almost never forgets his turns until he starts losing badly.
That is how the ACW ended in 1862.
I am working my way through getting all these rules downloaded and printing as appropriate.
Berkut's multipurpose business machine's hard drive at the office just lost a gig of storage space :lol:
Kyocera sevice rep is: blamed
Quote from: Berkut on July 09, 2014, 09:53:34 AM
I am working my way through getting all these rules downloaded and printing as appropriate.
Cool!
I will have very sporadic computer access until Tuesday, so let's use that time to get familiarised with stuff, and get confirmation from Solmyr and Habs that they are in.
Also, please, try to figure out if something is missing from the online resources until Monday (they shouldn't as far as I can tell), as I will be back home in Hungary so can scan stuff from the boardgame if required.
I am in, of course.
Berlin by Christmas.
Quote from: Habbaku on July 09, 2014, 12:53:14 PM
I am in, of course.
Berlin by Christmas.
:thumbsup:
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I'm in, can play whatever you think I can handle. Will try to read the rules over the weekend.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 09, 2014, 03:41:23 PM
I'm in, can play whatever you think I can handle. Will try to read the rules over the weekend.
Sweden.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 09, 2014, 03:41:23 PM
I'm in, can play whatever you think I can handle. Will try to read the rules over the weekend.
Habbaku is particular to Eastern Entente. That puts as to Centrals Solmyr, I am happy to take the eastern front and Austria.
That's how we should divide it: eastern/western per alliance. For the Entente, that makes it easy to divide who does production and research for which country. For Centrals I suggest eastern player deciding those for Austria, western for Germany.
Another thing you guys need to decide by the time we start, as it doesnt matter for me either way, is to give free choice of warplans or force historical ones. It is worth noting that even with free plan choices (most of them are secret but drastic ones like Germany redeploying against Russia or Russia against Germany must be announced so the other side can react), there are very strong arguments for choosing the historical ones: they give you the most National Will, and choosing something else can influence stuff like National Will of enemies and even chit draws for them and yourself. So it is very much a balance act and there is no clearly superior choice I think.
I would lobby for historical plans just so I have fewer variables to figure out while learning.
The Germans should do the Schlieffen Plan against Austria.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 09, 2014, 03:41:23 PM
I'm in, can play whatever you think I can handle. Will try to read the rules over the weekend.
Make sure to post lots of screen shots.
I want to play Britian, with the option to enter the war on the CP players side as long as they don't invade Belgium.
Russia declines to enter the war.
Quote from: Berkut on July 09, 2014, 08:05:42 PM
I want to play Britian, with the option to enter the war on the CP players side as long as they don't invade Belgium.
It does appear honor should be removed from the English dictionary :angry:
But that is against the rules anyway :P
Looking forward reading the reports of your game, guys.
Quote from: Valmy on July 09, 2014, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: Berkut on July 09, 2014, 08:05:42 PM
I want to play Britian, with the option to enter the war on the CP players side as long as they don't invade Belgium.
It does appear honor should be removed from the English dictionary :angry:
I believe "honor" isn't part of the English dictionary to begin with. :P
"Honour" might be, though.
Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 06:48:29 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 09, 2014, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: Berkut on July 09, 2014, 08:05:42 PM
I want to play Britian, with the option to enter the war on the CP players side as long as they don't invade Belgium.
It does appear honor should be removed from the English dictionary :angry:
I believe "honor" isn't part of the English dictionary to begin with. :P
"Honour" might be, though.
:( I wish I'd said that.
Quote from: grumbler on July 11, 2014, 02:09:21 PM
Quote from: Syt on July 10, 2014, 06:48:29 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 09, 2014, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: Berkut on July 09, 2014, 08:05:42 PM
I want to play Britian, with the option to enter the war on the CP players side as long as they don't invade Belgium.
It does appear honor should be removed from the English dictionary :angry:
I believe "honor" isn't part of the English dictionary to begin with. :P
"Honour" might be, though.
:( I wish I'd said that.
Yep. I knew there was a joke there right after Valmy posted it but I couldn't turn it into a coherent thought before I lost interest.
I actually used the American spelling just to avoid this but that just seems to have brought it on :(
Impressive scope of your latest project, very ambitious.
I was part of an attempt to play this at a convention in '09 I think it was but it was too much for us at that time.
Quote from: Habbaku on July 09, 2014, 08:39:05 PM
Russia declines to enter the war.
That's a victory for Russia if I ever saw one.
These rules are more extensive than I thought. :P I'll try anyway. Advice will be accepted, of course. Who is playing what?
Quote from: Solmyr on July 13, 2014, 10:31:58 AM
These rules are more extensive than I thought. :P
Yes, I look forward to watching this game after Languishites digest this game system in a mere matter of hours.
This needs to a a good on going AAR. a blow by blow :)
If we actually get going, I promise to at least attempt a turn-by-turn report from Russia/Serbia's perspective. I leave it to Berkut, et al, to do the other side of things.
Quote from: Solmyr on July 13, 2014, 10:31:58 AM
These rules are more extensive than I thought. :P I'll try anyway. Advice will be accepted, of course. Who is playing what?
You and i are the central powers. You mainly need to choose if you want to handle the western front or the eastern front.
Which one is easier? :unsure:
West. I am terrible.
Fine, I'll be the Hun.
That should work out ok - the newbs on the West, the Pros in the East.
I finally have Vassal working as well. Still lots of rules that need reading. I've made my through the basic rulebook at least.
Quote from: Berkut on July 14, 2014, 11:45:59 AM
That should work out ok - the newbs on the West, the Pros in the East.
It's the opposite of RL.
Do we want to put a start date on this, then? Knowing I have a time set will help me read the rules more quickly. :P
Germany declared war on August 1st so I think you should start that day.
I'll be waylaid in Pennsylvania at that time, so that won't work for me...
...unless we're trying to represent the delay of Russian mobilization? :hmm:
Ok so:
France: Berkut
Russia: Habbaku
Germany: Solmyr
Austria-Hungary: Tamas
This means that the Western Front will be managed by Berkut and Solmyr. (by all chance, Italy will join Entente, in that case we will decide what makes more sense, but probably Solmyr will deal with that front), while East will be by me and Habs. Meaning that I will control German forces on the East, but Solmyr will have final say on what troops to send there, and how to allocate his munition and replacements between the two fronts.
And needless to say, Habs will be controlling the Serbs as well, hopefully running them into the ground in short order.
I am fine with starting on 1st of August, we will just do the Western Front first, Habs.
I will be in London on the 1st of August (which I'm sure Wilhelm II would have loved to do). Returning in the evening on the 3rd. So if we start in August I can begin on the 4th earliest.
Jesus Christ, the war is already behind schedule.
We should start next Monday
Now, on the subject of Vassal: hardest thing will be establishing a protocol of how to proceed with battles, and general FOW. This is what slowed my old PBEM down initially (it was with Aide de Camp 2), but once we established what was the quickest solution, it started to gain speed.
Now, for battle resolution, I guess we can just log in for Vassal on real time in most cases. That way each battle will just take a few minutes then whoever is doing their turn can resume doing a replay.
Still, even in real time we might face the problem of fog of war: you are not supposed to know which unit your opponent selected for the next round: you are supposed to reveal simultaneously.
What do you think is the best way? Should we just alternate on who selects first in the rounds of a battle, as to create a situation where both sides are equally advantaged/disadvantaged with the blessing of foresight?
As for general FOW: you are not supposed to know exactly what kind of counters are in an on-map stack.
Basically, you have the army sheets for each nation, with holding boxes for the different HQ and "leurre" counters. The "leurre" and HQ counters are placed on the map and they represent the stack which is in their army holding box. So, while playing the board game, the opponent can have an idea about the size of your stacks, but cannot know the exact contents.
Keeping your stack content guaranteedly secret is not possible in the VASSAL module suggested by me, but is possible in the other, non-English one. Translating the window names in the latter to make it English should be easy enough I suppose. On the other hand, in the non-English one, stacks of the opposing side are completely invisible until dragged on the main map, which is more FOW than the board game, and while I would not consider it a problem with you guys, it does offer an extremely easy way for cheating.
Sooo, what I am leaning toward is just using the module I suggested, with the gentlemen's agreement that we shall not peek on enemy stacks, unless granted permission by the other player, or the game rules (eg. I will have all the info on Habs' stacks at the start of the game due to uncoded Russian radio transmissions).
Although this will not eliminate possible bad feelings if I manage to designate my 1915 Grand Offensive against Habbaku's stack full of Russian peasants, it does eliminate the constant bad feeling of having no idea what your opponent does with it's own troops in the hidden comfort of his army windows.
Also this more open way gives an opportunity to possible quick battle resolutions, when there is a very straightforward situation and one side just can give instructions to the other for resolutions.
Which reminds me: do we want to use ACTS's die roller?
Anyways, to give you some tips while you prepare, a thing for Solmyr and Berkut to note is that the French are required to pretty much massacre themselves on the German border at game start. BUT, although with the odds greatly against them, with a bit of luck and persistence, they CAN force the German defenders to retreat. Highly unlikely, but possible, and if that happens the German player can find himself with dropped trousers.
So, two things regarding the French historical offensive:
-France has the choice to either "fake it" meaning stay as long as the Obstinancy of their generals require, and then give up instantly. Still will probably suffer high losses, but will contain them this way. Or, they can mean business, and try to break through in earnest. Horrible losses are pretty much guaranteed (unless they get freakishly lucky), and I am not sure about their ability to do and maintain a deep penetration (haha) into Germany proper, but even just losing the border forts would be a blow for Germany, not to mention that hole-plugging in the south is not what the Schlieffen Plan is about
-Germany can ill-afford to reinforce the French border, and it does have decent number of high quality troops there. But it is foolish to completely ignore that front and consider it to be on autopilot.
So how is everyone doing?
All quiet on the western front.
Still plodding through the rules.
Great, the war skipped straight to 1915.
Somebody kill an Archduke!
I hope you guys are flat out ignoring Booklet II (trench war) for now, and not sweating over Booklet III (Advanced Game) too much. The only thing in the latter we will need before October are the diplomacy rules, so feel free to ignore the rest for now, you will have plenty of time to study it while we soldier on with the extra long turns of August and September.
What you need to be aware of, is that National Will is the key to everything. Unless one of us make a genius maneuver/absolutely horrible blunder, winning the game in a direct military way (ie. get this hex, be happy, you won) will be almost impossible to achieve.
Instead, you win the game by breaking the opposing countries' will to fight. There are political rules to try and optimally manage your own NW (as some of it needs sacrificing for other issues), but that can wait until the first Interphase which will be at the end of 1914. Meanwhile, you have the info on how you can cause and suffer NW loss in the movement war booklet and the country-specific sheets. You want to make the enemy lose it, and you to keep it or gain it. That's all you should care for now.
:glare:
In New York with Berkut. You'll be happy to know we have talked about the game. :P
Guns of August?
My God, trench warfare is boring.
Quote from: Berkut on July 09, 2014, 08:05:42 PM
I want to play Britian, with the option to enter the war on the CP players side as long as they don't invade Belgium.
That's not a realistic option, unless your game starts prior to 1900.
OK, I totally studied and completely understand all the rules. Let's get started.
Everyone else seems to have lost the will.
I am thinking we should switch to Fire in the Lake once I have that and organise a PBEM we will never start on that one.
I don't think the COIN games are well suited to PBEM.
Whatever happened to our Totaler Krieg game?
Quote from: Berkut on September 02, 2014, 11:44:46 AM
Whatever happened to our Totaler Krieg game?
I kind of half-assed it and ruined it :P
Quote from: Berkut on September 02, 2014, 11:44:23 AM
I don't think the COIN games are well suited to PBEM.
I have only played Andean Abyss so far, but there is like zero interactivity during a player's turn.
Quote from: Berkut on September 02, 2014, 11:44:23 AM
I don't think the COIN games are well suited to PBEM.
And your reason for thinking this?
Quote from: Habbaku on September 02, 2014, 01:12:08 PM
Quote from: Berkut on September 02, 2014, 11:44:23 AM
I don't think the COIN games are well suited to PBEM.
And your reason for thinking this?
Puzzling indeed. LGG is heavily interactive especially in 1914, but in COIN you just do your thing without opponent decisionmaking involved, then pass it on to the next guy.
Proper COIN play does see some discussion amongst the players, but not anything near to something that would stop PBEM.
Quote from: Habbaku on September 02, 2014, 01:23:59 PM
Proper COIN play does see some discussion amongst the players, but not anything near to something that would stop PBEM.
Well yeah but that can happen between moves, can't it? Stuff that slows down PBEM are stuff like interceptions and other things the active player must stop halfway in turns.
It just seems like a game that relies on a lot of table interaction to really capture what is interesting about the system, and the sort-allies, sorta-competitors nature of the game.
Quote from: Berkut on September 02, 2014, 02:17:10 PM
It just seems like a game that relies on a lot of table interaction to really capture what is interesting about the system, and the sort-allies, sorta-competitors nature of the game.
I would imagine that is easy to have if we are not breathing down the neck of somebody to make a move after an hour.
Quote from: Tamas on September 02, 2014, 02:20:02 PM
Quote from: Berkut on September 02, 2014, 02:17:10 PM
It just seems like a game that relies on a lot of table interaction to really capture what is interesting about the system, and the sort-allies, sorta-competitors nature of the game.
I would imagine that is easy to have if we are not breathing down the neck of somebody to make a move after an hour.
Not really. There is a lot of casual interaction that I suspect in PBEM just won't happen, because it isn't seen as worth it. And a lot of that talking is very informal, and hence cannot really be defined as being part of a discreet "diplomacy phase". So should people wait? Not wait?
Do we need to talk about whether or not I should pass so I can have a shot at that event that is coming up? Meh, whatever just go....
Quote from: Tamas on September 02, 2014, 11:49:52 AM
Quote from: Berkut on September 02, 2014, 11:44:46 AM
Whatever happened to our Totaler Krieg game?
I kind of half-assed it and ruined it :P
I want to do TK again. Mainly because I just traded for the AE version.
Quote from: Berkut on September 02, 2014, 06:21:14 PM
Quote from: Tamas on September 02, 2014, 11:49:52 AM
Quote from: Berkut on September 02, 2014, 11:44:46 AM
Whatever happened to our Totaler Krieg game?
I kind of half-assed it and ruined it :P
I want to do TK again. Mainly because I just traded for the AE version.
Meh. I'd rather stick to LGG. WW2 is teh bore
TK is a far less boring version of WW2, at least. Things can really go off on some interesting tangents.
LGG is too much. Way too much complexity. I would be willing to try it, but the odds of it "sticking" seem kind of low.
WW2: Meh. I already own Andean Abyss and have everything for PBEM. Seems to have a most excellent Vassal module with some automation, so if you want to test if COIN works in PBEM, that's an option.