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Title: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: 11B4V on May 13, 2014, 05:20:32 PM
and Timay rejoices.

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UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Rights groups worried about machines programmed to kill


(Newser) – It sounds like a panel discussion worthy of Comic Con, but this four-day summit on "lethal autonomous robots" is instead taking place under the auspices of the UN Convention on Conventional Weapons in Geneva, reports AFP. The premise is simple enough: Groups such as Human Rights Watch are worried that nations will begin deploying killer robots in the not-too-distant future to indiscriminately kill humans, and they want to get moratoriums in place to stop their development, reports al-Jazeera America.

"We don't see how these inanimate machines could understand or respect the value of life, yet they would have the power to determine when to take it away," says one arms expert for Human Rights Watch. "The only answer is a preemptive ban on fully autonomous weapons." Early versions of such machines are already surfacing. Drones are close, but humans still decide when and where they kill, notes the Verge. Critics are worried that drones or similar machines of the future wouldn't have such restrictions. The story points out that South Korea already uses sentry robots that can be programmed to shoot intruders who don't know the right password. The summit that begins today is seen as the first step toward a international rules.

http://www.newser.com/story/186825/un-starts-talks-on-killer-robots.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=united&utm_campaign=rss_topnews

Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: Malthus on May 13, 2014, 05:28:14 PM
It is when the UN starts holding talks *with* the killer robots that we should start to get worried.  ;)
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: grumbler on May 13, 2014, 06:12:58 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 13, 2014, 05:28:14 PM
It is when the UN starts holding talks *with* the killer robots that we should start to get worried.  ;)
:lol:
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on May 13, 2014, 06:28:11 PM
Warbots could be programmed to adhere to the rules of war. Panicked and angry soldiers shoot civilians all the time, but properly programmed warbots wouldn't -- and if/when they did, their governments could be held more directly accountable.
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 13, 2014, 10:07:01 PM
11Bravo would be all about mechs, but at his age they're just too goddamned uncomfortable to get in and out of.
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: Ideologue on May 13, 2014, 10:12:11 PM
I wish the UN had killer robots.  This experiment in sovereignty hasn't really worked out.
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: Monoriu on May 13, 2014, 10:27:44 PM
Imagine the killer robots in the hands of North Korea's Kim.  No need to worry about revolts, ever. 
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: Habbaku on May 13, 2014, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on May 13, 2014, 10:27:44 PM
Imagine the killer robots in the hands of North Korea's Kim.  No need to worry about revolts, ever.

What's life like in North Korea?

Can't complain.
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: The Brain on May 14, 2014, 09:53:12 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on May 13, 2014, 10:27:44 PM
Imagine the killer robots in the hands of North Korea's Kim.  No need to worry about revolts, ever.

He could only afford the one, so I think his current fleshmatons do the job nicely.
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: 11B4V on May 14, 2014, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 13, 2014, 10:07:01 PM
11Bravo would be all about mechs, but at his age they're just too goddamned uncomfortable to get in and out of.

Too old to do that road marching shit.
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: derspiess on May 14, 2014, 10:16:35 AM
Fortunately we still have the option of Robot Insurance.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81303587/
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
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Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
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Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 15, 2014, 07:58:19 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 13, 2014, 05:20:32 PM
The story points out that South Korea already uses sentry robots that can be programmed to shoot intruders who don't know the right password.

That's pretty metal! :punk:
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 15, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
When killer robots are outlawed only outlaws will have killer robots.
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: Viking on May 15, 2014, 09:26:13 PM
Out of curiosity, who wants to build autonomous lethal robots?
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 16, 2014, 07:32:37 AM
Who doesn't?
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: Viking on May 16, 2014, 07:33:57 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 16, 2014, 07:32:37 AM
Who doesn't?

OK, not counting japanese anime fans, which nation state or corporation or ngo wants to build autonomous killer death robots.
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: Ed Anger on May 16, 2014, 07:34:14 AM
I'm working on the Assburger Terminator.
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 16, 2014, 07:39:46 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 16, 2014, 07:33:57 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 16, 2014, 07:32:37 AM
Who doesn't?

OK, not counting japanese anime fans, which nation state or corporation or ngo wants to build autonomous killer death robots.
Those Korean sentry bots sound like they can kill without a direct human command.
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: Viking on May 16, 2014, 07:40:24 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 16, 2014, 07:39:46 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 16, 2014, 07:33:57 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 16, 2014, 07:32:37 AM
Who doesn't?

OK, not counting japanese anime fans, which nation state or corporation or ngo wants to build autonomous killer death robots.
Those Korean sentry bots sound like they can kill without a direct human command.

on the border in the DMZ?
Title: Re: UN Starts Talks on 'Killer Robots'
Post by: grumbler on May 16, 2014, 07:50:50 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 16, 2014, 07:39:46 AM
Those Korean sentry bots sound like they can kill without a direct human command.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet.  The Samsung Techwin's SGR-A1 is designed to alert an operator if it challenges and fails to get the right response.  Whether it could be operated fully autonomously is unclear, and one would tend to doubt that for corporate liability reasons.