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Title: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Jacob on May 05, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
http://www.vox.com/2014/5/1/5669526/get-ready-for-a-future-where-antibiotics-no-longer-work

Gonorrhea, Tuberculosis, and Pneumonia are all seeing drug resistant strains on the rise.

Mono, you should read the last bit of the article:

QuoteThe WHO doesn't say that a full "post-antibiotic era" is inevitable, but that it's "a very real possibility." So here's what people can do to prevent it.

Because antibiotic overuse is the main problem here, you should only take antibiotics that have been prescribed to you by a doctor.

But there's a twist: when you are prescribed antibiotics, you should take all of them — every last pill. While it might seem sensible to stop taking the pills when you feel better, it increases the chances that bacteria are still alive in your body and will survive and multiply, spreading their resistance to future generations.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Valmy on May 05, 2014, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 05, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
QuoteBut there's a twist: when you are prescribed antibiotics, you should take all of them — every last pill. While it might seem sensible to stop taking the pills when you feel better, it increases the chances that bacteria are still alive in your body and will survive and multiply, spreading their resistance to future generations.

Oh hell that is probably not going to happen.  Let's hope doctors really push for it because I don't think anybody does that.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: DGuller on May 05, 2014, 01:59:04 PM
Yikes, I can't imagine what it would be like to suffer through cold without taking anti-biotics during the worst couple of days.  I hate it when stupid people ruin it for everyone.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Viking on May 05, 2014, 02:18:10 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 05, 2014, 01:59:04 PM
Yikes, I can't imagine what it would be like to suffer through cold without taking anti-biotics during the worst couple of days.  I hate it when stupid people ruin it for everyone.

Just checking, you are being sarcastic right? Because Antibiotics Can't Treat the Common Cold: Antibiotics fight bacteria-related illnesses. Colds are caused by viruses. Antibiotics won't help a cold. (http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/antibiotics-colds)
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Barrister on May 05, 2014, 02:24:12 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 05, 2014, 02:18:10 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 05, 2014, 01:59:04 PM
Yikes, I can't imagine what it would be like to suffer through cold without taking anti-biotics during the worst couple of days.  I hate it when stupid people ruin it for everyone.

Just checking, you are being sarcastic right? Because Antibiotics Can't Treat the Common Cold: Antibiotics fight bacteria-related illnesses. Colds are caused by viruses. Antibiotics won't help a cold. (http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/antibiotics-colds)

:frusty:
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Sheilbh on May 05, 2014, 02:25:13 PM
MONO! :ultra:
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Viking on May 05, 2014, 02:27:28 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 05, 2014, 02:24:12 PM
:frusty:

There are some truly stupid people out there, sometimes DGuller falls into that category
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: sbr on May 05, 2014, 02:28:00 PM
:face:
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: garbon on May 05, 2014, 02:30:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2014, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 05, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
QuoteBut there's a twist: when you are prescribed antibiotics, you should take all of them — every last pill. While it might seem sensible to stop taking the pills when you feel better, it increases the chances that bacteria are still alive in your body and will survive and multiply, spreading their resistance to future generations.

Oh hell that is probably not going to happen.  Let's hope doctors really push for it because I don't think anybody does that.

:huh:

That's a standard instruction given when you are prescribed an antibiotic.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Sheilbh on May 05, 2014, 02:32:36 PM
Yeah. I've always been told to finish the course. I know people who don't and then hoard drugs which they self-prescribe for snifles. But I disdain them <_<
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Razgovory on May 05, 2014, 02:34:15 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 05, 2014, 02:24:12 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 05, 2014, 02:18:10 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 05, 2014, 01:59:04 PM
Yikes, I can't imagine what it would be like to suffer through cold without taking anti-biotics during the worst couple of days.  I hate it when stupid people ruin it for everyone.

Just checking, you are being sarcastic right? Because Antibiotics Can't Treat the Common Cold: Antibiotics fight bacteria-related illnesses. Colds are caused by viruses. Antibiotics won't help a cold. (http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/antibiotics-colds)


:frusty:

I think you and Viking missed the joke.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Viking on May 05, 2014, 02:34:33 PM
I haven't take anti-biotics since I was 10. The last time I used anti-biotics for anything I was force feeding them to a cat.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: garbon on May 05, 2014, 02:35:04 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 05, 2014, 02:34:33 PM
I haven't take anti-biotics since I was 10. The last time I used anti-biotics for anything I was force feeding them to a cat.

Wow. What a hunk! :wub:
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Sheilbh on May 05, 2014, 02:36:08 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 05, 2014, 02:34:33 PM
I haven't take anti-biotics since I was 10. The last time I used anti-biotics for anything I was force feeding them to a cat.
Same. I can't remember when I last had antibiotics. I'd guess when I was a kid and I used to get tonsilitis every six months.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Viking on May 05, 2014, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 05, 2014, 02:35:04 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 05, 2014, 02:34:33 PM
I haven't take anti-biotics since I was 10. The last time I used anti-biotics for anything I was force feeding them to a cat.

Wow. What a hunk! :wub:

A hunk with shredded fore-arms. Didn't get infected then, so fortunately didn't need anti-biotics then.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Barrister on May 05, 2014, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 05, 2014, 02:34:15 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 05, 2014, 02:24:12 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 05, 2014, 02:18:10 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 05, 2014, 01:59:04 PM
Yikes, I can't imagine what it would be like to suffer through cold without taking anti-biotics during the worst couple of days.  I hate it when stupid people ruin it for everyone.

Just checking, you are being sarcastic right? Because Antibiotics Can't Treat the Common Cold: Antibiotics fight bacteria-related illnesses. Colds are caused by viruses. Antibiotics won't help a cold. (http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/antibiotics-colds)


:frusty:

I think you and Viking missed the joke.

Only Viking missed the joke.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Razgovory on May 05, 2014, 02:42:38 PM
The last time I had anti-biotics was when the cat bit me.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: The Brain on May 05, 2014, 02:53:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2014, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 05, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
QuoteBut there's a twist: when you are prescribed antibiotics, you should take all of them — every last pill. While it might seem sensible to stop taking the pills when you feel better, it increases the chances that bacteria are still alive in your body and will survive and multiply, spreading their resistance to future generations.

Oh hell that is probably not going to happen.  Let's hope doctors really push for it because I don't think anybody does that.

:unsure:
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: The Brain on May 05, 2014, 02:53:55 PM
DG never jokes about health issues.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: derspiess on May 05, 2014, 03:11:47 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 05, 2014, 02:42:38 PM
The last time I had anti-biotics was when the cat bit me.

I'm on penicillin right now for the bout of strep throat that kicked my ass for a couple days last week.  Three more days to go.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: crazy canuck on May 05, 2014, 04:43:12 PM
I am not sure which one I am worried about more, the acidification of the oceans or this.  Thanks for brightening my day Jacob.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Monoriu on May 05, 2014, 05:27:44 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 05, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
http://www.vox.com/2014/5/1/5669526/get-ready-for-a-future-where-antibiotics-no-longer-work

Gonorrhea, Tuberculosis, and Pneumonia are all seeing drug resistant strains on the rise.

Mono, you should read the last bit of the article:

QuoteThe WHO doesn't say that a full "post-antibiotic era" is inevitable, but that it's "a very real possibility." So here's what people can do to prevent it.

Because antibiotic overuse is the main problem here, you should only take antibiotics that have been prescribed to you by a doctor.

But there's a twist: when you are prescribed antibiotics, you should take all of them — every last pill. While it might seem sensible to stop taking the pills when you feel better, it increases the chances that bacteria are still alive in your body and will survive and multiply, spreading their resistance to future generations.

I do take every last antibiotic pill.  But I won't go to a doctor every time if I need antibiotics.  Because I am the better judge of whether I need them or not.  The only place on earth where there is a semi-reliable medical history of myself is my head.  Most doctors don't have access to *any* of my medical records.  They work with a blank state most of the time.  I know which antibiotic I am allergic to; they don't.  If I need them, I am going to walk in a drug store and buy them.  That takes a lunch break.  I am not going to take half a day off and go through all the trouble of seeing someone who doesn't know me at all just to get the exact same thing.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Jacob on May 05, 2014, 05:30:14 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 05, 2014, 04:43:12 PM
I am not sure which one I am worried about more, the acidification of the oceans or this.  Thanks for brightening my day Jacob.

:console:
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: garbon on May 05, 2014, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on May 05, 2014, 05:27:44 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 05, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
http://www.vox.com/2014/5/1/5669526/get-ready-for-a-future-where-antibiotics-no-longer-work

Gonorrhea, Tuberculosis, and Pneumonia are all seeing drug resistant strains on the rise.

Mono, you should read the last bit of the article:

QuoteThe WHO doesn't say that a full "post-antibiotic era" is inevitable, but that it's "a very real possibility." So here's what people can do to prevent it.

Because antibiotic overuse is the main problem here, you should only take antibiotics that have been prescribed to you by a doctor.

But there's a twist: when you are prescribed antibiotics, you should take all of them — every last pill. While it might seem sensible to stop taking the pills when you feel better, it increases the chances that bacteria are still alive in your body and will survive and multiply, spreading their resistance to future generations.

I do take every last antibiotic pill.  But I won't go to a doctor every time if I need antibiotics.  Because I am the better judge of whether I need them or not.  The only place on earth where there is a semi-reliable medical history of myself is my head.  Most doctors don't have access to *any* of my medical records.  They work with a blank state most of the time.  I know which antibiotic I am allergic to; they don't.  If I need them, I am going to walk in a drug store and buy them.  That takes a lunch break.  I am not going to take half a day off and go through all the trouble of seeing someone who doesn't know me at all just to get the exact same thing.

I know it's a meme, but how often do you purchase antibiotics? I made fun of Viking for it but I agree with him and Sheilbh that for an average person with a functioning immune system, they aren't needed very often.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: Monoriu on May 05, 2014, 07:04:39 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 05, 2014, 06:42:20 PM

I know it's a meme, but how often do you purchase antibiotics? I made fun of Viking for it but I agree with him and Sheilbh that for an average person with a functioning immune system, they aren't needed very often.

I think I've only bought antibiotics 2 or 3 times in my life  :lol:  I do buy prescription only ulcer drugs every month or so because I need them daily.
Title: Re: The Post-Anti-Biotic Future is "a very real possibility"
Post by: garbon on May 05, 2014, 07:06:23 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on May 05, 2014, 07:04:39 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 05, 2014, 06:42:20 PM

I know it's a meme, but how often do you purchase antibiotics? I made fun of Viking for it but I agree with him and Sheilbh that for an average person with a functioning immune system, they aren't needed very often.

I think I've only bought antibiotics 2 or 3 times in my life  :lol:  I do buy prescription only ulcer drugs every month or so because I need them daily.

:lol: :hug: