No, not Walters. I'm talking about scale model airplanes, ships etc. When I was a kid I did some collecting, building and painting of tanks (1:35) and airplanes, but the painting especially was very basic. Recently I have felt a slight stirring in my pants when looking at model kits, and I contemplate a return to the hobby. Only this time with money to burn.
I'm guessing several people here did models when they were kids? Shut up, comedians. How many of you nerds are still doing them? Do you have any tips or war stories to share?
I am especially interested in airbrushing, which I plan to take up. I have no experience with this, and I will happily hear good advice that I just won't take.
Currently I am much into Japanese 30s-40s stuff, ships and to some extent aircraft. Anyone done WW2 ship models (of whatever nationality)? I am drawn to 1:350, but is 1:700 OK? Seems a bit tiny to me.
I had a half meter long Tirpitz done up in profile breaking camouflage. I tried building an enourmous HMS Victory, but I was 12 at the time.
My only model-painting exercise ended in tragedy.
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Walters?
Quote from: Josephus on May 03, 2014, 06:34:58 PM
Walters?
Sigh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Model
Quote from: grumbler on May 03, 2014, 04:44:24 PM
My only model-painting exercise ended in tragedy.
Where you see tragedy, others see opportunity. :perv:
I used to be pretty into that stuff when I was a kid. But my mother had a habit of always smashing them up which rendered the entire endeavor pointless. :(
I burned my models. ZE GRAF SPEE IS ON FIRE
I thought this thread was about statistical models. :(
There's a 10% finished 1/700 Vittorio Veneto in a cupboard somewhere, I should continue working on that some time.
I think Neil builds 1/350 ships.
I'd like to do a Japanese destroyer or maybe cruiser. As for battleships... There are some lovely Yamato kits out there but I can't do Yamato because of the taint. Maybe Nagato? That superstructure is sweet.
Everybody knows the Kongo is the kewlest.
OK I have no idea if I will actually get my ass in gear and build it, but I ordered the Nagato in 1:350 and some paint and stuff. Of course I have paints etc from my figure painting hobby but I needed some different shit for scale models.
Quote from: The Brain on May 10, 2014, 11:30:36 AM
OK I have no idea if I will actually get my ass in gear and build it, but I ordered the Nagato in 1:350 and some paint and stuff. Of course I have paints etc from my figure painting hobby but I needed some different shit for scale models.
Good choice. I've always liked the Nagato's compact, tough look.. at least, once they got rid of that goofy serpentine forefunnel.
Quote from: grumbler on May 10, 2014, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 10, 2014, 11:30:36 AM
OK I have no idea if I will actually get my ass in gear and build it, but I ordered the Nagato in 1:350 and some paint and stuff. Of course I have paints etc from my figure painting hobby but I needed some different shit for scale models.
Good choice. I've always liked the Nagato's compact, tough look.. at least, once they got rid of that goofy serpentine forefunnel.
I picked the 1941 version. :smarty:
Did you get some PE? Or one of those wooden decks?
Quote from: Maladict on May 10, 2014, 03:51:52 PM
Did you get some PE? Or one of those wooden decks?
No. I figure I'll keep it simple for now and see how it goes. I've got a hunch that the model itself won't be the limiting factor. If this one works out and is fun I may go all in with the next model.
Speaking of simple, I am grateful to the IJN for its n00b-friendly color scheme.
Yes. The Italians, not so much. <_<
Quote from: Maladict on May 10, 2014, 04:01:07 PM
Yes. The Italians, not so much. <_<
The Italians had an independent chair force. That's why they had to paint their ships that way - pilots without adult supervision are happy to bomb their own ships, given the slightest excuse. Have to get back to the BOQ bar, you know.
Italians painted everything weird. I never understood the idea of camouflage for a plane. I mean they also have big bright roundels on there as well. Seems like a lot of wasted effort to paint a bunch of squiggly lines all over the plane then put a few giant bulls eyes on the wings.
Italian bombs...only dropped once.
The joke doesn't work for them. :(
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 10, 2014, 06:06:07 PM
Italian bombs...only dropped once.
The joke doesn't work for them. :(
At least you tried to make an internet joke. :)
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 10, 2014, 06:06:07 PM
Italian bombs...only dropped once.
The joke doesn't work for them. :(
Mussolini liked the British tradition of wearing the red coat so, if men were wounded, the others couldn't see the blood and maybe panic.
That's why he equipped the Italian Chair Force with brown pants.
This is what the end product will look like (hopefully, I'm not a very experienced scale modeller). I'd give her the get if I were you!
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This thread has half-peaked my interest in ship models. :gasp:
I've got a few lying around that I could build, which do you think I should have a bash at ?
700th Tamiya Waterline - Nelson, KG5, Gneisenau, USS Enterprise.
600th - Warspite, Iron Duke
1200th waterline - Ark Royal, Hood, Bismarck, Prinz Eugen, Suffolk, tribal destroyers,
plus a few other full 1200th oddities, cruiseliners,battleships and a CV.
Prinz Eugen. :wub:
Warspite.
Oddity.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 11, 2014, 09:24:25 AM
Oddity.
By that I meant some revell miniships (1200th), these kits date from the 50s'60s, made by other companies, subsequently reissued any number of times. So rather inaccurate to start with and modern boxings are from by now very tired molds.
My position is unchanged.
Much like my diaper. MOM!
Take the most recent mold. They generally have less fitting issues.
Quote from: Maladict on May 11, 2014, 04:00:57 PM
Take the most recent mold. They generally have less fitting issues.
Sound advice.
The Tamiya kits are probably ok, despite being from the 70s.
I was looking at some Japanese WW2 movie clips and came across this, from an airstrike early in the Pacific War. Oh those Japanese.
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Today the Nagato arrived. Sweet! :w00t:
Apparently some assembly is required. :hmm:
It is happening! :w00t:
I have started assembly. 1:350 seems to be a fairly nice scale for capital ships. At a bit over 2 ft the model has a presence without being unwieldy.
Assembly is proceeding, though somewhat slowly. The hull is done. I have to paint some parts during assembly for best results, which requires me to thimk.
Doing this scale model thing again is nice. :)
Brain, anymore developments on the scale-modeling front?
Quote from: mongers on June 07, 2014, 08:29:00 PM
Brain, anymore developments on the scale-modeling front?
Yes, but pretty slow. Yesterday I painted the hull (since I use spray paint it's best to do it at this stage), and I have begun work on the deck and superstructure. I'm normally way too lazy for WIP pics, but you never know on this kind of biggish project.
If I finish the Nagato and still enjoy myself I'll probably take on the Akagi (Hasegawa) or Yamato (Tamiya, premium version).
Any pics?
Quote from: Monoriu on June 08, 2014, 04:52:13 AM
Any pics?
I'm not a machine. Maybe I'll manage some pics and maybe I won't. We'll see.
Edit: And no Mono, it's a model of the real ship Nagato.
Some progress, but not very quick. I'm learning a lot of basic scale model stuff by working on this model, which is great, but it means that I often have to stop and think.
In other news I scored a half price 1:350 destroyer Yukikaze (Hasegawa) at my FLMS. I have had my eye on the Yukikaze, and it looks like a nice little model.
Brain, fun stuff. I sometimes get the urge to take up making models again (used to as a kid) but so far haven't done so. I love looking at the occasional scale model catalogs that get delivered to the house; makes me want to get back into making some. :)
I'm building a 1:350 HMS Hood right now. First ship I've built in a decade.
Quote from: Neil on June 13, 2014, 08:45:49 PM
I'm building a 1:350 HMS Hood right now. First ship I've built in a decade.
How gangsta.
How far along are you?
Quote from: Neil on June 13, 2014, 08:45:49 PM
I'm building a 1:350 HMS Hood right now. First ship I've built in a decade.
:cool:
Excellent.
Welcome back Neil.
Quote from: The Brain on June 14, 2014, 01:47:38 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 13, 2014, 08:45:49 PM
I'm building a 1:350 HMS Hood right now. First ship I've built in a decade.
How gangsta.
How far along are you?
I have the hull painted and I'm working on all the fine detail (hatches and vents and the like) on the deck. Once I'm done with that, it'll be time to build up.
I finished a bunch of little boats. Now I'm doing the 3 catapult-launched seaplanes. Doing biplanes in 1:350 gets a little fiddly.
Btw, does anyone know if there's a 1:350 Yamato 1942 version available from any manufacturer? Seems that most models are the one-way 45 version.
Quote from: The Brain on June 28, 2014, 04:39:12 AM
Btw, does anyone know if there's a 1:350 Yamato 1942 version available from any manufacturer? Seems that most models are the one-way 45 version.
Tamiya does a Musashi that's in the 'as-built' configuration, but only in 1/700 waterline. Their 1/350 Musashi is 1944, and every Yamato I've ever seen is done up for the Okinawa operation. You'd have to do some modding to get the original look, pruning away all those AA guns and adding the triple 6.1" turrets from somewhere.
Quote from: Neil on June 28, 2014, 07:30:17 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 28, 2014, 04:39:12 AM
Btw, does anyone know if there's a 1:350 Yamato 1942 version available from any manufacturer? Seems that most models are the one-way 45 version.
Tamiya does a Musashi that's in the 'as-built' configuration, but only in 1/700 waterline. Their 1/350 Musashi is 1944, and every Yamato I've ever seen is done up for the Okinawa operation. You'd have to do some modding to get the original look, pruning away all those AA guns and adding the triple 6.1" turrets from somewhere.
:( I was afraid of this.
Since I am more interested in the IJN of the 30s-early 40s my next ship may be the Akagi. :wub:
Quote from: The Brain on June 28, 2014, 09:03:33 AM
Since I am more interested in the IJN of the 30s-early 40s my next ship may be the Akagi. :wub:
How about a Tone-class cruiser? I always thought that they were a fascinating design, and their design philosophy (around the doctrine of keeping all the carrier aircraft for strike work, and building cruisers with big seaplane allotments to compensate) interesting. I never quite understood what the Japanese thought would happen with that doctrine if the weather got bad.
Quote from: grumbler on June 28, 2014, 06:26:03 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 28, 2014, 09:03:33 AM
Since I am more interested in the IJN of the 30s-early 40s my next ship may be the Akagi. :wub:
How about a Tone-class cruiser? I always thought that they were a fascinating design, and their design philosophy (around the doctrine of keeping all the carrier aircraft for strike work, and building cruisers with big seaplane allotments to compensate) interesting. I never quite understood what the Japanese thought would happen with that doctrine if the weather got bad.
It's certainly a possibility, they are kind of interesting. I like to have a theme for the ships i build, and one possible theme is one for each major type of ship and a cruiser would obviously fit. Another theme I was looking into was ships of Yamamoto, but since an early Yamato isn't readily available this theme looks unlikely.
One of the sad stories of WW2 is that the Tone-class Chikuma was sunk during the Battle off Samar (yeah!) but that 1400 of her crew were rescued by an IJN destroyer (yeah!) but then that destroyer got sunk in turn, and only one of the 1400 survivors of the first sinking lived (#Ihasasad).
Finished the planes. I've also finished the funnel with its system of tubes. Slowly getting closer to building the main superstructure. :mmm:
Progress may have plateaued a bit the past months, but I feel some energy reappearing. My recent trip to Japan may have something to do with it. I've ordered some books on building model ships and on the Yamato (among others Janusz Skulski's Anatomy Of The Ship: The Battleship Yamato). I have a long-term plan to have the Nagato, the Mikasa and the Yamato. I ordered the Tamiya deluxe Yamato, and the Hasegawa Mikasa. I visited the Togo shrine in Tokyo so I feel we have a connection now.
Did you visit the Mikasa when you were in Japan?
Quote from: Tyr on November 09, 2014, 04:18:44 PM
Did you visit the Mikasa when you were in Japan?
No, the focus of the trip lay elsewhere. Also didn't go to the 1/10 Yamato in Kure.
Mikasa Sukasa?
Mikasa and Yamato have arrived. Sweet models, but I'll have to finish Nagato first.
http://www.revell.com/model-kits/entertainment/starwars.html
My sons will like these.
:w00t:
Although I have a feeling I'll be the one putting them together. It happened with the Tiger tanks. :glare:
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 11, 2014, 07:01:06 PM
http://www.revell.com/model-kits/entertainment/starwars.html
My sons will like these.
:w00t:
Although I have a feeling I'll be the one putting them together. It happened with the Tiger tanks. :glare:
I counter
http://www.hobbylinc.com/pegasus-german-waffen-ss-set-2-43-plastic-model-military-figure-1:72-scale-7202
Quote from: 11B4V on December 11, 2014, 07:17:40 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 11, 2014, 07:01:06 PM
http://www.revell.com/model-kits/entertainment/starwars.html
My sons will like these.
:w00t:
Although I have a feeling I'll be the one putting them together. It happened with the Tiger tanks. :glare:
I counter
http://www.hobbylinc.com/pegasus-german-waffen-ss-set-2-43-plastic-model-military-figure-1:72-scale-7202
I really don't want 5 and 4 year old playing with cement.
In other words, I don't want to clean up after them.
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 11, 2014, 07:01:06 PM
http://www.revell.com/model-kits/entertainment/starwars.html
My sons will like these.
:w00t:
Although I have a feeling I'll be the one putting them together. It happened with the Tiger tanks. :glare:
Can you put my Yamato together?
Quote from: The Brain on December 12, 2014, 09:23:37 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 11, 2014, 07:01:06 PM
http://www.revell.com/model-kits/entertainment/starwars.html
My sons will like these.
:w00t:
Although I have a feeling I'll be the one putting them together. It happened with the Tiger tanks. :glare:
Can you put my Yamato together?
Clean your room first. And take out the garbage.
Today I did some work on the Nagato for the first time in many months. :w00t:
I finished painting of the funnel and some other bits of the superstructure and glued them to the hull. Now I'll start on the main superstructure! Lots of pieces!
But DAMN there's a lot of binoculars on a battleship!
After doing the main superstructure last summer there has been a slight pause, but now I've started again! Continuing work on other parts of the superstructure. Feels nice to be at it again.
Also I bought the Italeri 1:35 S-Boot, which is sexy (and 1m long). It'll probably have to wait a bit though. :)
Quote from: The Brain on May 15, 2016, 03:25:39 PM
Also I bought the Italeri 1:35 S-Boot, which is sexy (and 1m long). It'll probably have to wait a bit though. :)
This?
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Maybe, it's a bit hard to tell from the pic.
After getting my tojo back I have made significant progress on the Nagato. Basically just secondary batteries and some odds and ends left, then construction will be complete. After that there's some detail painting and weathering! :w00t:
Construction is complete. :w00t:
What's left now is just final touchup of the paintjob and maybe some weathering, and then fitting a few final details.
The Nagato is now finished! :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
I decided against weathering at this point, I'd like to test some stuff before I try it on a model of this size. I can always do it later.
Now I need to find a good cheap display case for it.
No pics yet, for one thing I'll need daylight for those.
Pics:
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Awesome model :cool:
That's awesome :showoff:
Yup, that's awesome :thumbsup:
Cool :cool:
Thanks! :)
My display case for it came today so it will get a nice home.
Now I'm thinking about my next project... I'm not sure if it will be some figure painting or another scale model. If scale model then probably the Mikasa, which should be a quicker build and which I can display with my wooden plaque thingie from Togo shrine.
That is an enormous wooden box.
Quote from: Razgovory on October 01, 2016, 12:22:03 PM
That is an enormous wooden box.
It's the box my penis came in.
Where's it going? Dining room table?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 01, 2016, 12:53:48 PM
Where's it going? Dining room table?
Unfortunately not. :(
It will likely go in a window for now cause that's where I might have room for it, plus the display case is pretty heavy and I want it on something really solid.
Not sure if it fits into this thread, but I visited the largest model train set in the world. It's in Hamburg and roughly 1500 square meters in area. It's in 1:87 (HO) scale. It changes from night to day time periodically. A lot of the stuff moves, not just the trains.
Hamburg airport including aircraft taking off and landing
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Las Vegas in the America section
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Kiruna in the Scandinavia section
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The Italian section for Syt
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The control desk
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They finished Italy? I'll have to go soon :mmm:
Cool! :)
Btw the city of Kiruna will move soon IRL.