Poll
Question:
Does your sex life involve sex-workers or paying/ getting paid for sex?
Option 1: ... it is, or has at one time been, a regular part of my sex life.
votes: 2
Option 2: ... it's something I've done/do infrequently over the years, but it's not exactly a regular feature.
votes: 1
Option 3: ... once or twice, under special circumstances that are unlikely to happen again.
votes: 7
Option 4: ... I have had sexual contact with someone who've received financial compensation from me directly or indirectly (or vice versa), but I wouldn't classify it as prostitution exactly.
votes: 2
Option 5: ... no it doesn't, but only because I haven't had the right combination of opportunity and/or cash flow.
votes: 3
Option 6: ... no it doesn't. It's unlikely but not unimaginable that it may, one day.
votes: 33
Option 7: ... no it doesn't and it never will under any circumstances.
votes: 18
Option 8: The non-vote vote option, including for the smart-asses who'll claim that all or most sexual relationships are essentially prostitution.
votes: 3
Every so often people here refer to prostitution in various ways. It seems to me that there are some pretty different attitudes here, whether they're real or just part of peoples' schticks.
... I'm curious where people stand on this, if you're up for talking about it.
Option 4 is intended for all the various edge cases, like having (or being) a mistress (or male equivalent) where it's clear that the material rewards are a motivator for the relationship, having one night-stands where one party leaves some money for the other because it's culturally expected or because they need it, and/or various sexual acts with strippers whom you've been tipping well (or because you've been tipped well, if you're a stripper) even if it's not "real sex", etc.
Can't imagine ever using the services of an out and out sex worker. To be honest, even if I was not married, I simply could not face having sex with a stranger where I paid - I can't see that as much fun. More like embarrasing.
Maybe a mistress-like arrangement of some sort.
Never happened before. Probably never will. Would do it under the right conditions though.
I see prostitutes here on like a daily basis as they hang out near where I live looking for customers, but I've never even felt attracted by the ones on the street. I've never been in any of the brothels here, so maybe it's just the street prostitutes that aren't even attractive. That wouldn't be too surprising.
I don't really have an ethical problem with the general concept of prostitution though.
I have zero moral objection to prostitution. My issues, to the extent that I have any, concern availability, price, and quality.
droughts should be handled in other ways
Never have, but I'd have no qualms as long as there was no coercion involved, she was good enough to get me going and I had money to spare.
Never have. I have no moral qualms about it (as long as it isn't coerced), but paying for sex doesn't entice me much. I sort of enjoy the romantic side of a sexual relationship, so I'd only pay for something extraordinary (which I probably couldn't afford).
Most of the prossies I come across I'd not touch with a 10 yard stick, anyway.
Cant imagine it ever happening.
Quote from: celedhring on April 29, 2014, 02:15:32 PM
Never have. I have no moral qualms about it (as long as it isn't coerced), but paying for sex doesn't entice me much. I sort of enjoy the romantic side of a sexual relationship, so I'd only pay for something extraordinary (which I probably couldn't afford).
Most of the prossies I come across I'd not touch with a 10 yard stick, anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXhRoY-Utxo
Paying for it takes a bit of the sport out of it.
It never came up.
I picked 4 for back in the day when I pocketed cab fare, had strangers buy me gifts.
I used to live in an area of Downtown Toronto (Gerrard and Church streets) when I was a student, that was a notorious hooker area. I never did do THAT, but I did befriend one I would share cigarettes with at Hooker Harveys (the burger joint in the area). I would meet her for coffee and smokes every day, probably for about two and a half months until she disappeared. :(
I believe in transactional relationships.
This thread is a trap.
No "No, but I have prostituted myself" option? :unsure:
Nah, but I've been out with a handful of poor but pretty men who've benefited financially from me.
Quote from: Brazen on April 30, 2014, 03:55:52 AM
No "No, but I have prostituted myself" option? :unsure:
It's there.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 30, 2014, 04:49:44 AM
Quote from: Brazen on April 30, 2014, 03:55:52 AM
No "No, but I have prostituted myself" option? :unsure:
It's there.
So it is. Too early to read all the words.
Quote from: celedhring on April 29, 2014, 02:15:32 PM
Never have. I have no moral qualms about it (as long as it isn't coerced), but paying for sex doesn't entice me much.
This. And living close to a red light district makes you realize how utterly depressing it is.
Quote from: Malthus on April 29, 2014, 12:56:18 PM
Can't imagine ever using the services of an out and out sex worker. To be honest, even if I was not married, I simply could not face having sex with a stranger where I paid - I can't see that as much fun. More like embarrasing.
Yeah, I imagine I'd feel like a loser before, during, and after.
Quote from: Josephus on April 29, 2014, 05:13:30 PM
I used to live in an area of Downtown Toronto (Gerrard and Church streets) when I was a student, that was a notorious hooker area. I never did do THAT, but I did befriend one I would share cigarettes with at Hooker Harveys (the burger joint in the area). I would meet her for coffee and smokes every day, probably for about two and a half months until she disappeared. :(
Call the cold case squad, I think we have a lead ... :hmm:
All I have to do is look at the escorts section on Backpage and all desire for the hookers disappears. TALK ABOUT UGGOS.
Prostitutes are overrated, they all just have one thing on their mind.
100 roses for their time. :yes:
Quote from: Jacob on April 29, 2014, 12:28:12 PM
Every so often people here refer to prostitution in various ways. It seems to me that there are some pretty different attitudes here, whether they're real or just part of peoples' schticks.
... I'm curious where people stand on this, if you're up for talking about it.
Option 4 is intended for all the various edge cases, like having (or being) a mistress (or male equivalent) where it's clear that the material rewards are a motivator for the relationship, having one night-stands where one party leaves some money for the other because it's culturally expected or because they need it, and/or various sexual acts with strippers whom you've been tipping well (or because you've been tipped well, if you're a stripper) even if it's not "real sex", etc.
"no it doesn't. It's unlikely but not unimaginable that it may, one day."
I don't even go to stripper's club, don't like the act.
But since I've been fully single since last summer and much unable to get out of my home and seek companionship, it may be that in some future I'll seek out an escort to satisfy my needs, though I don't fancy paying for sex, it's probably better than nothing.
No problem with it being there for those who want it but I've never partaken and have no desire to. Sex isn't that big a deal for me- the first time with a new person in particular is usually less than satisfactory for me.
I'm not above getting a "mail order bride" if I reach a certain age and am miserable, alone and without an heir
I've never even went into a strip joint. If I hired a hooker it would probably be so I would have someone to play A World at War against.
61 votes. I didn't realize we had that many members still coming through the forum!
Quote from: Jacob on May 02, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
61 votes. I didn't realize we had that many members still coming through the forum!
You need to subtract Ed's 40 sock puppets
I loved strip clubs the few times I have gone. That informed me I needed to stay the hell away from strip clubs.
Quote from: Valmy on May 02, 2014, 04:17:10 PM
I loved strip clubs the few times I have gone. That informed me I needed to stay the hell away from strip clubs.
I don't think you understand love.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2014, 04:10:53 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 02, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
61 votes. I didn't realize we had that many members still coming through the forum!
You need to subtract Ed's 40 sock puppets
HEY NOW
I forgot the password to my only sock puppet. :cry:
Quote from: The Brain on May 02, 2014, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 02, 2014, 04:17:10 PM
I loved strip clubs the few times I have gone. That informed me I needed to stay the hell away from strip clubs.
I don't think you understand love.
What is love?
Baby, don't hurt me. Don't hurt me no more.
Quote from: garbon on May 02, 2014, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 02, 2014, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 02, 2014, 04:17:10 PM
I loved strip clubs the few times I have gone. That informed me I needed to stay the hell away from strip clubs.
I don't think you understand love.
What is love?
Apparently, around $200 an hour. If the back pages of "Now" magazine are to be believed. ;)
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2014, 04:31:23 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 02, 2014, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 02, 2014, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 02, 2014, 04:17:10 PM
I loved strip clubs the few times I have gone. That informed me I needed to stay the hell away from strip clubs.
I don't think you understand love.
What is love?
Apparently, around $200 an hour. If the back pages of "Now" magazine are to be believed. ;)
So about $16.60 for five minutes.
Quote from: Jacob on May 02, 2014, 04:39:17 PMSo about $16.60 for five minutes.
Jesus Jacob 5 minutes? You're a man, not a machine. :o
I guess only me and CdM are in this club. I voted option one, I've purchased a pros for sex, probably 15 times in my life. Wouldn't do it again.
None were street walkers, and all were while I was either in the academy or the Army itself. It basically was something I fell into, as a plebe (first year cadet at the USMA), your leave is extremely limited on weekends. In my time (and still today) women cadets are rare and disproportionately into other women versus the general population. So not only are the opportunities for sex with other cadets/students very limited (unless you're gay) versus a regular college, you also can't just leave campus as a plebe and make relationships with locals. Also there aren't many locals.
So all that being said, it wasn't uncommon for plebes to sneak off on weekends (which you would get into huge trouble for if caught, but everyone breaks the rules constantly at the academy and usually doesn't get caught), often times to go to an upperclassman's illegal off campus house (you weren't allowed to rent a house off campus, but lots of upperclass cadets did it for party house purposes.) Anyway, my first time we were doing just that and an older cadet basically explained there was a service we could call, and gave us the names of some of the prostitutes he was familiar with that were attractive/good times.
We basically stuck to a few services and some prostitutes we knew we'd have no problem sticking it to, so to speak. I'd say 90% of my encounters were while I was a cadet in those circumstances. After that, it happened a few times in the 90s primarily I think because once you've "broken your cherry" with prostitutes you realize it's not really that weird, gross, etc as you might think it'd be. There are plenty of perfectly attractive ones who you'll have a good time with, and it's something that's about pure sex with nothing else, I never had bad sex with one. My later encounters were all of the variety where a woman (madame) arranged it in a bar, you basically get approached and if you're interested, she shows you a binder of girl's photos and you pick which one you want and arrange a meeting place. I wouldn't be surprised if that process has given way to Internet listings like Craigslist or whatever these days.
I think the only reason I never did it more is for one that isn't a gross street walker it's decently expensive relative to how hard it was to meet non-prostitute women at that point in my life.
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2014, 04:31:23 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 02, 2014, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 02, 2014, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 02, 2014, 04:17:10 PM
I loved strip clubs the few times I have gone. That informed me I needed to stay the hell away from strip clubs.
I don't think you understand love.
What is love?
Apparently, around $200 an hour. If the back pages of "Now" magazine are to be believed. ;)
fuck, it's gone up since my day.
Quote from: Valmy on May 02, 2014, 04:26:23 PM
Baby, don't hurt me. Don't hurt me no more.
:hug:
I've never had intercourse with a stripper but I've also in a drunken haze paid for private dances that result in blowjobs. Strippers are extremely expensive for a lot less in return than a pros, and if you are willing to pay stripper money you can get a very high quality whore. In my time the cost of a private dance was about 3x as much as the hourly rate for a good looking call service prostitute who would let you have multiple pops and do pretty much whatever you want for the hour. The only difference in attractiveness is strippers as a rule have fake tits a lot, so if you're into silicone you won't see nearly as much of it in sex workers but certainly some do have them as well.
Plus strippers will loot your house.
My friend Rick never learns. :homestar:
Quote from: Razgovory on May 02, 2014, 03:46:03 PM
I've never even went into a strip joint. If I hired a hooker it would probably be so I would have someone to play A World at War against.
If you ever decide to do this, please make a video.
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2014, 04:31:23 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 02, 2014, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 02, 2014, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 02, 2014, 04:17:10 PM
I loved strip clubs the few times I have gone. That informed me I needed to stay the hell away from strip clubs.
I don't think you understand love.
What is love?
Apparently, around $200 an hour. If the back pages of "Now" magazine are to be believed. ;)
Well I'm not paying for the time she reads the instructions, so she'd better know how to play before we start. :mad:
Quote from: garbon on May 02, 2014, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 02, 2014, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 02, 2014, 04:17:10 PM
I loved strip clubs the few times I have gone. That informed me I needed to stay the hell away from strip clubs.
I don't think you understand love.
What is love?
Whats love got to do with it
love is a battlefield
Love stinks.
It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 02, 2014, 06:58:25 PM
Well I'm not paying for the time she reads the instructions, so she'd better know how to play before we start. :mad:
For some reason that gave me the image of you mooks hiring hookers to play board games with you, which makes me chuckle.
Quote from: derspiess on May 02, 2014, 11:20:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 02, 2014, 06:58:25 PM
Well I'm not paying for the time she reads the instructions, so she'd better know how to play before we start. :mad:
For some reason that gave me the image of you mooks hiring hookers to play board games with you, which makes me chuckle.
Maybe because Raz has a post in this thread that says just that? :hmm:
lol straight out of "The Catcher in the Raz."
Quote from: garbon on May 02, 2014, 11:46:05 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 02, 2014, 11:20:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 02, 2014, 06:58:25 PM
Well I'm not paying for the time she reads the instructions, so she'd better know how to play before we start. :mad:
For some reason that gave me the image of you mooks hiring hookers to play board games with you, which makes me chuckle.
Maybe because Raz has a post in this thread that says just that? :hmm:
He's sending Spicey subliminal messages that say the exact same thing as his posts.
Quote from: Caliga on May 02, 2014, 06:57:20 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 02, 2014, 03:46:03 PM
I've never even went into a strip joint. If I hired a hooker it would probably be so I would have someone to play A World at War against.
If you ever decide to do this, please make a video.
He could probably make back the money spent on the hooker by posting on YouTube.
This is a great idea. Hire a hooker for an hour. Spend the first 30 minutes making them do things that are intellectually challenging, and post it to youtube. That will be your youtube channel staple.
In the last 30 minutes, make use of their time in a more conventional manner.
Get youtube to pay for your mongering. :)
I'd make them do housework.
Quote from: alfred russel on May 03, 2014, 09:08:49 AM
This is a great idea. Hire a hooker for an hour. Spend the first 30 minutes making them do things that are intellectually challenging, and post it to youtube. That will be your youtube channel staple.
In the last 30 minutes, make use of their time in a more conventional manner.
Get youtube to pay for your mongering. :)
Step 3, go to prison!
Love, love me do. You know I love you.
Quote from: alfred russel on May 03, 2014, 09:08:49 AM
This is a great idea. Hire a hooker for an hour. Spend the first 30 minutes making them do things that are intellectually challenging, and post it to youtube. That will be your youtube channel staple.
In the last 30 minutes, make use of their time in a more conventional manner.
Get youtube to pay for your mongering. :)
Typically a hooker wouldn't be willing to do all of that to be honest. You might think why would they care, but in all honest they'd be weirded out by someone hiring them but not for sexual purposes and would probably leave partly out of fear that it's something very strange to them and they'll think you're crazy in some way.
In my case, they'd be right!
-Raz calls up the madam-
"Hey, you said this girl is into roleplaying. I brought out the dice and she just wigged out and ran. What the hell? This is like 5th one to do that! What kind of establishment are you running?".
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 03, 2014, 11:11:21 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 03, 2014, 09:08:49 AM
This is a great idea. Hire a hooker for an hour. Spend the first 30 minutes making them do things that are intellectually challenging, and post it to youtube. That will be your youtube channel staple.
In the last 30 minutes, make use of their time in a more conventional manner.
Get youtube to pay for your mongering. :)
Typically a hooker wouldn't be willing to do all of that to be honest. You might think why would they care, but in all honest they'd be weirded out by someone hiring them but not for sexual purposes and would probably leave partly out of fear that it's something very strange to them and they'll think you're crazy in some way.
you seem to know a lot.
I think it depends on the type of hooker.
Street corner hookers are into quick BJs and in-out-in-outs in the backs of cars. Anything else would freak them out.
The more expensive "escort" girls, probably have seen and done it all for the right amount of cash. "You want to play chess naked with me? Sure it's your dime."
Well I've admitted I've bought prostitutes, so I think I know more than most since the poll indicates that puts me in the minority here. I don't know much/anything about street walkers, other than that you're more likely to get robbed by them than call service girls and street walkers are much more likely to only give you one pop as they want to have as much turnover as possible. Call center girls it's almost always strictly by the hour and whatever you can get done in that time, you can do.
For one, if you aren't willing to get naked with a girl (even a call service girl) within the first few minutes they usually call it off, as in their world one of the tell tale signs of a vice sting is an unwillingness to strip naked. It's one of the first things you're asked to do, typically after you put the money (usually in an envelope) on a counter/table top (they will never ask for the money directly unless they're new.)
There are actually call girls who you can find that are "massage only" which usually means they go no farther than a hand job. They'd probably be more amenable to just playing chess or something, but you have to get pretty deep into your local scene to know which are which type.
Quote from: alfred russel on May 03, 2014, 09:15:43 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 03, 2014, 09:14:42 AM
Step 3, go to prison!
Why do you go to prison?
The reason I bring this up, is if you are in a sting, and the first thing you do is insist on spending the 30 minutes playing Dungeons and Dragons while filming for youtube, i'm guessing the sting is going to be called off. Especially if the transition from playing dungeons and dragons to having sex involves an intermediate phase of playing dungeons and dragons naked.
Quote from: alfred russel on May 03, 2014, 09:15:43 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 03, 2014, 09:14:42 AM
Step 3, go to prison!
Why do you go to prison?
He gets two blow jobs from the hooker, and then goes to prison to give one of them to his buddies.
Quote from: grumbler on May 03, 2014, 11:52:55 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 03, 2014, 09:15:43 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 03, 2014, 09:14:42 AM
Step 3, go to prison!
Why do you go to prison?
He gets two blow jobs from the hooker, and then goes to prison to give one of them to his buddies.
Sharing is caring.
Quote from: Josephus on May 03, 2014, 11:27:26 AM
I think it depends on the type of hooker.
Street corner hookers are into quick BJs and in-out-in-outs in the backs of cars. Anything else would freak them out.
The more expensive "escort" girls, probably have seen and done it all for the right amount of cash. "You want to play chess naked with me? Sure it's your dime."
I've discovered that dancers that do out-call side work are a happy medium.