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Title: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
Sweet! :w00t:

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/not-science-fiction-navy-test-futuristic-gun-sea-2016-n74166

Quote'Not Science Fiction': Navy to Test Futuristic Gun at Sea in 2016

The U.S. Navy is planning sea trials for a weapon that can fire a low-cost, 23-pound (10-kg) projectile at seven times the speed of sound using electromagnetic energy, a "Star Wars" technology that will make enemies think twice, the Navy's research chief said.

Rear Adm. Matthew Klunder, the chief of Naval Research, told a round table group recently that the futuristic electromagnetic rail gun had already undergone extensive testing on land and would be mounted on the USNS Millinocket, a high-speed vessel, for sea trials beginning in 2016.

"It's now reality and it's not science fiction. It's actually real. You can look at it. It's firing," said Klunder, who planned to discuss progress on the system later on Monday with military and industry leaders at a major maritime event — the Sea-Air-Space Exposition — near Washington.

"It will help us in air defense, it will help us in cruise missile defense, it will help us in ballistic missile defense," he said. "We're also talking about a gun that's going to shoot a projectile that's about one one-hundredth of the cost of an existing missile system today."

The Navy research chief said that cost differential — $25,000 for a rail gun projectile versus $500,000 to $1.5 million for a missile — will make potential enemies think twice about the economic viability of engaging U.S. forces.

"That ... will give our adversaries a huge moment of pause to go: 'Do I even want to go engage a naval ship?'" Klunder told reporters. "You could throw anything at us, frankly, and the fact that we now can shoot a number of these rounds at a very affordable cost, it's my opinion that they don't win."

U.S. officials have voiced concerns that tight defense budgets could cause the Pentagon to lose its technological edge over China, Russia and other rivals, who have been developing antiship ballistic missile systems and integrated air defenses capable of challenging U.S. air and naval dominance.

Weapons like the electromagnetic rail gun could help U.S. forces retain their edge and give them an asymmetric advantage over rivals, making it too expensive to use missiles to attack U.S. warships because of the cheap way to defeat them.

Rail guns use electromagnetic energy known as the Lorenz Force to launch a projectile between two conductive rails. The high-power electric pulse generates a magnetic field to fire the projectile with very little recoil, officials said.

The U.S. Navy has funded two single-shot rail gun prototypes, one by privately held General Atomics and the other by BAE Systems. Klunder said he had selected BAE for the second phase of the project, which will look at developing a system capable of firing multiple shots in succession.
— Reuters
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 07, 2014, 11:27:59 PM
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Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Razgovory on April 07, 2014, 11:36:06 PM
You would need a big gun to shoot a train at someone.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 07, 2014, 11:41:15 PM
Is that pic like the rotating dancer or do they just switch direction frequently?
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Monoriu on April 08, 2014, 02:37:28 AM
I am pretty sure I've read similar threads, most of them started by Tim, throughout our EUO/languish history.  I almost feel like going to the past and reading EUOT again.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 08, 2014, 02:47:57 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on April 08, 2014, 02:37:28 AM
I am pretty sure I've read similar threads, most of them started by Tim, throughout our EUO/languish history.  I almost feel like going to the past and reading EUOT again.
I never fail to post news about the railgun. Thankfully, unlike most stuff I post the railgun has unfailingly been on schedule since I started posting about it. :)
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 08, 2014, 03:08:51 AM
Ok, it's definitely like the dancer pic, right now I can only see the line of rabbits moving forward.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Brazen on April 08, 2014, 05:27:01 AM
No love for LaWS? Laser weapon to be deployed at sea this summer.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 08, 2014, 05:36:35 AM
Quote from: Brazen on April 08, 2014, 05:27:01 AM
No love for LaWS? Laser weapon to be deployed at sea this summer.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fy0IjW2V.jpg&hash=d911c68dcd750b1d77c10ddac399c6f3dbabf49a) (http://imgur.com/y0IjW2V)
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Ed Anger on April 08, 2014, 08:26:52 AM
Lazy Tim at it again.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: mongers on April 08, 2014, 08:31:13 AM
My railgun needs some test firings this spring.  :)
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Syt on April 08, 2014, 08:36:15 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 08, 2014, 05:36:35 AM
Quote from: Brazen on April 08, 2014, 05:27:01 AM
No love for LaWS? Laser weapon to be deployed at sea this summer.



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Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Ed Anger on April 08, 2014, 08:38:36 AM
Took me 5 seconds to search for LAWS.

Timmy, you lazy shit.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: celedhring on April 08, 2014, 08:53:49 AM
QuoteThe U.S. Navy is planning sea trials for a weapon that can fire a low-cost, 23-pound (10-kg) projectile at seven times the speed of sound using electromagnetic energy,

That's a hell of a muzzle velocity.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: PDH on April 08, 2014, 08:57:58 AM
All I need to do is think "Tim is such a lazy idiot" and Languish does my work for me.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 08, 2014, 08:46:03 PM
I'm sure Brazen, being an expert, has professional references at her fingertips that far exceed the top returns in google search in value. -_-
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Ed Anger on April 08, 2014, 08:49:58 PM
No, You are just a lazy shit who expects everybody to do the work for you. Go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 08, 2014, 09:11:03 PM
I think you're taking the internet a bit too seriously.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Ed Anger on April 08, 2014, 09:29:47 PM
I enjoyed flinging abuse. :)
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 08, 2014, 10:02:20 PM
CdM flings abuse:  intraweb bully, all around nasty person
Ed flings abuse:  lol good one Ed har har har
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Ed Anger on April 08, 2014, 10:03:31 PM
I'm a scamp.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 08, 2014, 10:05:48 PM
Are you posting on Languish so's to escape from reality? Me, I don't need Languish.  I am reality. There's the way it ought to be, and there's the way it is.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn2.screenjunkies.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FPlatoon.jpg&hash=eb18a6490b4cd407cd1996c15f8fce8269213b95)

I shit on all you.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Ed Anger on April 08, 2014, 10:06:22 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: sbr on April 08, 2014, 10:08:15 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 08, 2014, 08:38:36 AM
Took me 5 seconds to search for LAWS.

Timmy, you lazy shit.

Tim probably misspelled it and ended up at an article about Liberal Arts and Engineering Studies.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Neil on April 08, 2014, 10:30:56 PM
Quote from: celedhring on April 08, 2014, 08:53:49 AM
QuoteThe U.S. Navy is planning sea trials for a weapon that can fire a low-cost, 23-pound (10-kg) projectile at seven times the speed of sound using electromagnetic energy,

That's a hell of a muzzle velocity.
Still, a 23 kg projectile moving at 2400 m/s is less impressive than a 2700 kg projectile moving at 750 m/s.  Advantage:  Dreadnought.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: celedhring on April 09, 2014, 04:35:16 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 08, 2014, 10:30:56 PM
Quote from: celedhring on April 08, 2014, 08:53:49 AM
QuoteThe U.S. Navy is planning sea trials for a weapon that can fire a low-cost, 23-pound (10-kg) projectile at seven times the speed of sound using electromagnetic energy,

That's a hell of a muzzle velocity.
Still, a 23 kg projectile moving at 2400 m/s is less impressive than a 2700 kg projectile moving at 750 m/s.  Advantage:  Dreadnought.

I have no idea of the ballistics involved, but it doesn't look like the US Navy envisions an anti-ship role for those weapons. Such a short time-to-target would really make them ideal antimissile or AA weapons (provided they can be turned into rapid fire weapons, I'm really not that knowledgeable about the technology's limitations). Anyway, I when I was kid I was promised flying cars and lasers, I'm 35 and still waiting, but this and LaWS are a start...
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: dps on April 09, 2014, 06:35:23 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 08, 2014, 10:02:20 PM
CdM flings abuse:  intraweb bully, all around nasty person
Ed flings abuse:  lol good one Ed har har har

No one thinks you're a nasty person for flinging abuse at Timmay--we all do that.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Neil on April 09, 2014, 08:10:14 AM
Quote from: celedhring on April 09, 2014, 04:35:16 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 08, 2014, 10:30:56 PM
Quote from: celedhring on April 08, 2014, 08:53:49 AM
QuoteThe U.S. Navy is planning sea trials for a weapon that can fire a low-cost, 23-pound (10-kg) projectile at seven times the speed of sound using electromagnetic energy,

That's a hell of a muzzle velocity.
Still, a 23 kg projectile moving at 2400 m/s is less impressive than a 2700 kg projectile moving at 750 m/s.  Advantage:  Dreadnought.
I have no idea of the ballistics involved, but it doesn't look like the US Navy envisions an anti-ship role for those weapons. Such a short time-to-target would really make them ideal antimissile or AA weapons (provided they can be turned into rapid fire weapons, I'm really not that knowledgeable about the technology's limitations). Anyway, I when I was kid I was promised flying cars and lasers, I'm 35 and still waiting, but this and LaWS are a start...
I wonder how well they'd cope with small, fast-moving targets.  I suppose the Israelis have a laser array which can shoot down artillery shells now as part of the Iron Dome, so it might be plausible.
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Brazen on April 09, 2014, 10:34:33 AM
I only haven't replied before because my office internet flags this thread up as adult content  :lol:

New railgun footage with targets being obliterated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJQfAcBs5vQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJQfAcBs5vQ)

LaWS press release and photo:
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=80172 (http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=80172)
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: derspiess on April 09, 2014, 10:40:05 AM
There, Timmy.  You happy now?

AND DON'T BABY HIM BRAZEN
Title: Re: Navy Plans For Sea Trials For Railgun In 2016
Post by: Ed Anger on April 09, 2014, 12:57:48 PM
Christ. He'll never learn this way.