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Title: How hard-wired are modes of economic development?
Post by: Queequeg on March 16, 2014, 05:50:22 PM
Just finished Philbrick's Mayflower, and it struck me just how similar the Native American tribes were to the English, or perhaps rather to what their Celtic or Anglo-Saxon ancestors would have looked like.  No private property, but a dedicated warrior and priest-king caste, mobile agriculture, notions of battlefield glory and violent, Byzantine political conflict.  I'd always assumed the "Naturals" had some kind of Rousseauish 'connection to the land', and were relatively peaceable, but the work challenges both assumptions; New England was extremely intensely cultivated, and it was probably the plague that allowed for the success of English agricultural settlements and gave way to the relatively open America of later conquests.  They are also, frankly, ingenious; they adopt the flintlock while the Pilgrim were still stuck with the matchlock, and the Narraganset managed to build an extremely complex fortress combining local and English techniques. 

This got me thinking about Marxian dialectics of economic development.  I realized that I'd always had some vaguely Marxian (but likely Paradox-assisted) assumption that almost all economies anywhere on the globe with the potential for real development eventually evolved along similar lines, from primitive agricultural settlement to complex tribal society to, well Slavery.  The fact that the English and the Native Americans seem to have very quickly understood each other's politics and economics as fundamentally similar would seem to indicate that as strongly as anything.

Thoughts?  Are there entirely different models of economic progress that I'm missing?  Does this stop at some point and make way for differing models?
Title: Re: How hard-wired are modes of economic development?
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 16, 2014, 06:10:14 PM
At the core it's just a lot of individuals interacting with other individuals. It's true of economics and politics alike. Humanity itself provides a baseline just because the physical needs of people are the same.
Title: Re: How hard-wired are modes of economic development?
Post by: Capetan Mihali on March 16, 2014, 11:31:11 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on March 16, 2014, 05:50:22 PM
Thoughts?
No.

QuoteAre there entirely different models of economic progress that I'm missing?
Yes.

QuoteDoes this stop at some point and make way for differing models?
N/A.
Title: Re: How hard-wired are modes of economic development?
Post by: Ideologue on March 17, 2014, 01:59:21 PM
Sure.  Even the Mohicans would eventually have been replaced with machines.
Title: Re: How hard-wired are modes of economic development?
Post by: Ed Anger on March 17, 2014, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 17, 2014, 01:59:21 PM
Sure.  Even the Mohicans would eventually have been replaced with machines.

That would be sad. The last of the Mohican workers.
Title: Re: How hard-wired are modes of economic development?
Post by: Siege on March 18, 2014, 06:34:02 PM
I have been thinking...
Never mind.
Title: Re: How hard-wired are modes of economic development?
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 18, 2014, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 18, 2014, 06:34:02 PM
I have been thinking...

A dangerous pastime.
Title: Re: How hard-wired are modes of economic development?
Post by: sbr on March 18, 2014, 07:41:19 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 18, 2014, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 18, 2014, 06:34:02 PM
I have been thinking...

A dangerous pastime.

Siege is just getting started, he should be fine for a while.