Why didn't the big countries assimilate the small countries?
Why are there all these small countries without armies that survived through history?
I mean, I understand the current world order, that if you invade a country you get isolated and probably invaded (Iraq in Kuwait, Serbia in Bosnia).
But why didn't all the big states assimilate the little ones long before the 20th century?
It would have been the natural course of history after the creation of the nation-states.
It was too hard logistically to keep control of too large or too diverse of an area.
Quote from: Siege on February 12, 2014, 08:28:28 PM
Why didn't the big countries assimilate the small countries?
Why are there all these small countries without armies that survived through history?
I mean, I understand the current world order, that if you invade a country you get isolated and probably invaded (Iraq in Kuwait, Serbia in Bosnia).
But why didn't all the big states assimilate the little ones long before the 20th century?
It would have been the natural course of history after the creation of the nation-states.
Because large empires don't hold together very easily, especially prior to the invention of the steam engine and the telegraph. It takes a lot of effort for one nation-state to take over and hold another.
I agree, Israel should be joined into a larger state containing Egypt, Turkey, Iraq, The Hedjaz and Serbia.
Well, to some extent they did from the 15th to the 20th centuries. Also history is not a game of Risk, you don't win anything if your rule the world.
Quote from: chipwich on February 12, 2014, 10:07:51 PM
I agree, Israel should be joined into a larger state containing Egypt, Turkey, Iraq, The Hedjaz and Serbia.
A glorious state encompassing the Middle East, the Balkans, and the Caucasus. Sultan Erdogan would know how to sort that out. :yes:
Is this another one of the Siege threads we should ignore.
Quote from: Razgovory on February 12, 2014, 10:19:53 PM
Is this another one of the Siege threads we should ignore.
Bring out the Gifs.
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Fhdz <_<
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2014, 10:38:46 PM
Fhdz <_<
If you have time for Languish at work, you're doing it wrong.
Besides, it was a funny pun :(
Quote from: fhdz on February 12, 2014, 10:53:09 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2014, 10:38:46 PM
Fhdz <_<
If you have time for Languish at work, you're doing it wrong.
Actually I think you are very confused on that point. ;)
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2014, 10:55:57 PM
Quote from: fhdz on February 12, 2014, 10:53:09 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2014, 10:38:46 PM
Fhdz <_<
If you have time for Languish at work, you're doing it wrong.
Actually I think you are very confused on that point. ;)
:D Fine. If you have time for Languish at work, then *I'm* doing it wrong. :D
The whole concept of "NSFW" kind of presupposes that a non-negligible amount of people will be at least occasionally looking at a given website during the workday...
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 12, 2014, 11:02:17 PM
The whole concept of "NSFW" kind of presupposes that a non-negligible amount of people will be at least occasionally looking at a given website during the workday...
I think one can state that as a fact about Languish...
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 12, 2014, 11:02:17 PM
The whole concept of "NSFW" kind of presupposes that a non-negligible amount of people will be at least occasionally looking at a given website during the workday...
Not me, i actually work when working unlike you slack asses.
What is this 'work'?
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 12, 2014, 11:39:46 PM
What is this 'work'?
It's like when you have to do something you don't want to do but get paid for it.
Quote from: katmai on February 12, 2014, 11:38:16 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 12, 2014, 11:02:17 PM
The whole concept of "NSFW" kind of presupposes that a non-negligible amount of people will be at least occasionally looking at a given website during the workday...
Not me, i actually work when working unlike you slack asses.
Yeah, I don't come up for air until I get in the truck to drive home. Sure beats what I was doing before August though.
Quote from: fhdz on February 12, 2014, 10:57:48 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2014, 10:55:57 PM
Quote from: fhdz on February 12, 2014, 10:53:09 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2014, 10:38:46 PM
Fhdz <_<
If you have time for Languish at work, you're doing it wrong.
Actually I think you are very confused on that point. ;)
:D Fine. If you have time for Languish at work, then *I'm* doing it wrong. :D
Actually, it's more like, "If you have time for Languish at work, then your boss is doing it wrong". Of course, if you're self-employed, that doesn't apply, but give it time. With a work ethic like that, you will be working for someone else soon enough.
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2014, 11:45:57 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 12, 2014, 11:39:46 PM
What is this 'work'?
It's like when you have to do something you don't want to do but get paid for it.
for you maybe. I like my jobs.
I like my job too, but luckily taking breaks every so often is perfectly acceptable.
Quote from: katmai on February 13, 2014, 02:01:57 AM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2014, 11:45:57 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 12, 2014, 11:39:46 PM
What is this 'work'?
It's like when you have to do something you don't want to do but get paid for it.
for you maybe. I like my jobs.
I don't dislike it but there's a lot I have to do that I don't want to. Like dealing with unnecessary bullshit.
Quote from: garbon on February 13, 2014, 02:11:02 AM
I don't dislike it but there's a lot I have to do that I don't want to. Like dealing with unnecessary bullshit.
It'll be interesting to see when you're in a position to affect it - will you expend political capital to minimise the bullshit affecting people below you; or will you pass it down the line feeling good because if you did your time, they can do theirs.
On the plus side, we will all be Comcast customers soon.
Quote from: Scipio on February 13, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
On the plus side, we will all be Comcast customers soon.
And all restaurants will be Taco Bell. :(
Quote from: Jacob on February 13, 2014, 12:06:26 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 13, 2014, 02:11:02 AM
I don't dislike it but there's a lot I have to do that I don't want to. Like dealing with unnecessary bullshit.
It'll be interesting to see when you're in a position to affect it - will you expend political capital to minimise the bullshit affecting people below you; or will you pass it down the line feeling good because if you did your time, they can do theirs.
Well, I do try to minimize the bullshit for those working under my direction now. Unfortunately though, they don't report directly to me, so I can only do so much.
That said, I already don't have time for people who complain they are too busy and that it is extreme to ask them to sometimes work more than 40 hours a week. I do want to say - bucko, you don't even know what busy is.
Quote from: Siege on February 12, 2014, 08:28:28 PM
Why didn't the big countries assimilate the small countries?
Why are there all these small countries without armies that survived through history?
I mean, I understand the current world order, that if you invade a country you get isolated and probably invaded (Iraq in Kuwait, Serbia in Bosnia).
But why didn't all the big states assimilate the little ones long before the 20th century?
It would have been the natural course of history after the creation of the nation-states.
They did. Look at the map of the world in 1914. As for the micro-states, nobody took them seriously as countries.
I liked when Dredd nuked East-Meg 1.
There was a drive towards unification in Europe, Germany and Italy being the most recent cases, but also France and Spain. If anything that slowed once the big nation-states in Europe were formed and the resulting politics of balance of power prevented any kind of further integration.
So, Austria-Hungary remains the best example of a multi-cultural State?
Quote from: Siege on February 15, 2014, 10:04:55 PM
So, Austria-Hungary remains the best example of a multi-cultural State?
Nah, the Roman Empire.
Actually, maybe the Mongols were better at handling their subjects.
Quote from: Tonitrus on February 15, 2014, 10:07:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 15, 2014, 10:04:55 PM
So, Austria-Hungary remains the best example of a multi-cultural State?
Nah, the Roman Empire.
Actually, maybe the Mongols were better at handling their subjects.
I :wub: Timur
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 15, 2014, 10:13:38 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on February 15, 2014, 10:07:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 15, 2014, 10:04:55 PM
So, Austria-Hungary remains the best example of a multi-cultural State?
Nah, the Roman Empire.
Actually, maybe the Mongols were better at handling their subjects.
I :wub: Timur
He was lame.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 15, 2014, 10:13:38 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on February 15, 2014, 10:07:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 15, 2014, 10:04:55 PM
So, Austria-Hungary remains the best example of a multi-cultural State?
Nah, the Roman Empire.
Actually, maybe the Mongols were better at handling their subjects.
I :wub: Timur
You'll make Sulla jealous! :o
Quote from: Tonitrus on February 16, 2014, 10:33:17 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 15, 2014, 10:13:38 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on February 15, 2014, 10:07:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 15, 2014, 10:04:55 PM
So, Austria-Hungary remains the best example of a multi-cultural State?
Nah, the Roman Empire.
Actually, maybe the Mongols were better at handling their subjects.
I :wub: Timur
You'll make Sulla jealous! :o
Sulla would appreciate mounds of skulls.
Yeah. I'm getting a genocide boner.
Genocide-genocide or fake PC genocide?
So what's it going to be Megastates or Citystates?
Megacities.
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Quote from: Syt on February 17, 2014, 01:13:11 PM
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You know, I'm glad that picture has a river in it. I was just thinking about it, and I just realized that water travel, not air travel, is more likely to become more prevalent in a worldwide city. In fact, in most of the media representation of congested air traffic in a crowded future city, it strikes me that the traffic pattern is behaving more like that of canals layered on top of each other.
What? Water travel in the future?
What are you smoking?
Are you in Colorado?
Water as a medium is slower than air travel.
The evolution of transportation have been from water to ground to air.
Next step will be virtual travel.
Quote from: Siege on February 18, 2014, 07:50:59 PM
Next step will be virtual travel.
We're already there.
Yep
http://youtu.be/4JkIs37a2JE
Quote from: Neil on February 18, 2014, 08:04:24 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 18, 2014, 07:50:59 PM
Next step will be virtual travel.
We're already there.
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I'm ready for the virtual commute to my virtual job.
Quote from: sbr on February 18, 2014, 09:22:06 PM
I'm ready for the virtual commute to my virtual job.
We'll be there in 20 years.
If free-market capitalism continues to drive research and development.
If the socialists win, the economy will tank and we, as in us languishtahs, will miss the train.
We are too old.
Quote from: Siege on February 18, 2014, 09:53:41 PM
We'll be there in 20 years.
If free-market capitalism continues to drive research and development.
Free-market R&D like DARPA or the NIH?
Or free market R&D like the one-click patent and New Coke?
Siege must have an inferiority complex to the Blackwater folks he's met.