The death of Nelson Mandela is a big story, but according to the BBC it's the only story.
I've just spent some minutes replaying the BBC news stream and I can't find any other news being covered, not even the weather forecast.
I assume they had plenty of material already recorded and ready to role for this sad event.
My question is what sort of bias and perspective do you expect your news coverage to have ?
National vs international, breaking vs long term trends, serious vs celebrity content, what mix would you choose ?
good he deserves that recognition.
Far more important than MLK.
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 10:46:23 PM
Far more important than MLK.
That is hardly fair to MLK, Mandela had 56 more years to do important things.
Quote from: Valmy on December 05, 2013, 10:52:58 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 10:46:23 PM
Far more important than MLK.
That is hardly fair to MLK, Mandela had 56 more years to do important things.
Wasnt meant to be unfair.
but MLK didnt spend 20+ years in prison either.
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 10:46:23 PM
Far more important than MLK.
Unlike MLK, Mandela was a terrorist.
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 10:56:49 PM
but MLK didnt spend 20+ years in prison either.
True, but I do hear he spent at least one night in a Birmingham Jail.
To me Mandela is who we wish revolutionaries would be, most of them turn out more like Mugabe or Lenin.
Quote from: Valmy on December 05, 2013, 11:00:26 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 10:56:49 PM
but MLK didnt spend 20+ years in prison either.
To me Mandela is who we wish revolutionaries would be, most of them turn out more like Mugabe or Lenin.
Sadly
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 10:56:49 PM
but MLK didnt spend 20+ years in prison either.
Yonatan Pollard have been longer in prision.
Quote from: Siege on December 05, 2013, 10:57:51 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 10:46:23 PM
Far more important than MLK.
Unlike MLK, Mandela was a terrorist.
Yeah, but he won. There's nothing inherently immoral about terrorism.
Quote from: Siege on December 05, 2013, 11:07:02 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 10:56:49 PM
but MLK didnt spend 20+ years in prison either.
Yonatan Pollard have been longer in prision.
He's a traitor. Not the same.
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 11:09:27 PM
Quote from: Siege on December 05, 2013, 11:07:02 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 10:56:49 PM
but MLK didnt spend 20+ years in prison either.
Yonatan Pollard have been longer in prision.
He's a traitor. Not the same.
"According to the CIA's 1987 damage assessment of Pollard's crimes, which was declassified on December 14, 2012, Pollard was not asked by his Israeli handlers to gather information on U.S. military activities, but rather to collect U.S. intelligence on Arab states, Pakistan and the Soviet Union, and especially their weapons systems.[126]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard)
http://www.timesofisrael.com/pollard-gathered-intelligence-on-arab-and-soviet-weaponry-not-us-military-activities-declassified-cia-document-reveals/ (http://www.timesofisrael.com/pollard-gathered-intelligence-on-arab-and-soviet-weaponry-not-us-military-activities-declassified-cia-document-reveals/)
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 10:46:23 PM
Far more important than MLK.
I don't know if I buy that. Someone who has a significant impact on the U.S., or India or China for that matter, is likely to have more impact on the world than some one who has a massive impact on a country like South Africa.
Quote from: Siege on December 05, 2013, 11:10:27 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 11:09:27 PM
Quote from: Siege on December 05, 2013, 11:07:02 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 10:56:49 PM
but MLK didnt spend 20+ years in prison either.
Yonatan Pollard have been longer in prision.
He's a traitor. Not the same.
"According to the CIA's 1987 damage assessment of Pollard's crimes, which was declassified on December 14, 2012, Pollard was not asked by his Israeli handlers to gather information on U.S. military activities, but rather to collect U.S. intelligence on Arab states, Pakistan and the Soviet Union, and especially their weapons systems.[126]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard)
http://www.timesofisrael.com/pollard-gathered-intelligence-on-arab-and-soviet-weaponry-not-us-military-activities-declassified-cia-document-reveals/ (http://www.timesofisrael.com/pollard-gathered-intelligence-on-arab-and-soviet-weaponry-not-us-military-activities-declassified-cia-document-reveals/)
Traitor.
Pollard should have been hanged.
QuoteWhen it came to gathering intelligence on the US itself, the report found Israel "did not request or receive from Pollard intelligence concerning some of the most sensitive US national security resources."
What the fuck does this mean?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 05, 2013, 11:27:38 PM
QuoteWhen it came to gathering intelligence on the US itself, the report found Israel “did not request or receive from Pollard intelligence concerning some of the most sensitive US national security resources.”
What the fuck does this mean?
If they told you they would have to kill you.
Quote from: Siege on December 05, 2013, 11:07:02 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 10:56:49 PM
but MLK didnt spend 20+ years in prison either.
Yonatan Pollard have been longer in prision.
And Charlie Manson has been even longer, so what?
Anti-Semite!
Quote from: mongers on December 05, 2013, 10:35:24 PM
The death of Nelson Mandela is a big story, but according to the BBC it's the only story.
I've just spent some minutes replaying the BBC news stream and I can't find any other news being covered, not even the weather forecast.
I assume they had plenty of material already recorded and ready to role for this sad event.
My question is what sort of bias and perspective do you expect your news coverage to have ?
National vs international, breaking vs long term trends, serious vs celebrity content, what mix would you choose ?
All of that. But when it's a major news story, such as Mandela dying; a terror attack; a major weather catastrophe, you pretty much just cover that.
Quote from: Siege on December 05, 2013, 10:57:51 PM
Unlike MLK, Mandela was a terrorist.
Under a loose enough definition of "terrorist" to include Mandela, so was George Washington.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 06, 2013, 06:58:31 PM
Quote from: Siege on December 05, 2013, 10:57:51 PM
Unlike MLK, Mandela was a terrorist.
Under a loose enough definition of "terrorist" to include Mandela, so was George Washington.
Did Mandela kill people in their beds at Christmas? I thought not. GW > Mandela.
Quote from: Valmy on December 06, 2013, 11:52:37 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 06, 2013, 06:58:31 PM
Quote from: Siege on December 05, 2013, 10:57:51 PM
Unlike MLK, Mandela was a terrorist.
Under a loose enough definition of "terrorist" to include Mandela, so was George Washington.
Did Mandela kill people in their beds at Christmas? I thought not. GW > Mandela.
:lol:
Why do you hate Jews, Raz?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 05, 2013, 11:20:33 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 05, 2013, 10:46:23 PM
Far more important than MLK.
I don't know if I buy that. Someone who has a significant impact on the U.S., or India or China for that matter, is likely to have more impact on the world than some one who has a massive impact on a country like South Africa.
Mandela had a significant impact outside of SA as well - in Africa, Europe, and North America.
Quote from: Valmy on December 06, 2013, 11:52:37 PM
Did Mandela kill people in their beds at Christmas? I thought not. GW > Mandela.
And that is why Frederick the Great called Washington the best terrorist ever!
Friedrich II Hohenzollern of Prussia spoke about George W?
Quote from: mongers on December 05, 2013, 10:35:24 PM
My question is what sort of bias and perspective do you expect your news coverage to have ?
National vs international, breaking vs long term trends, serious vs celebrity content, what mix would you choose ?
I prefer multiple biases and perspectives and get news from multiple sources. I like roughly even balances between local, national and international. I also like an even mix of daily stories and broader trends; but I don't much care for up to the minute breaking news since the stories are usually underdeveloped. I sympathize with Charles Manson whenever I read celebrity news.