QuoteNFL Point Spreads For Week 13 - Week Thirteen NFL Football Point Spread - NFL Spreads 11/28 - 12/2, 2013
Date & Time Favorite Spread Underdog
11/28 12:30 ET At Detroit -6.5 Green Bay
11/28 4:30 ET At Dallas -8.5 Oakland
11/28 8:30 ET At Baltimore -2.5 Pittsburgh
12/1 1:00 ET At Indianapolis -4.5 Tennessee
12/1 4:25 ET Denver -5 At Kansas City
12/1 1:00 ET At Cleveland -7 Jacksonville
12/1 1:00 ET At Carolina -8 Tampa Bay
12/1 1:00 ET At Minnesota -1 Chicago
12/1 1:00 ET At Philadelphia -3 Arizona
12/1 1:00 ET At NY Jets -2 Miami
12/1 4:05 ET At Buffalo -3 Atlanta
12/1 4:05 ET At San Francisco -8.5 St. Louis
12/1 1:00 ET New England -7.5 At Houston
12/1 4:25 ET At San Diego -1 Cincinnati
12/1 8:30 ET NY Giants -1 At Washington
Monday Night Football Point Spread
12/2 8:40 ET At Seattle -5 New Orleans
Poor Matthew Stafford. He's slowly watching his career spiral down into Romo Mode: snakebit.
No Flex time this week?
We could have had KC vs Denver 2.0 but No.
So much for Matt Flynn being a good pickup and spot start. Fucking fuck with fuck sauce on top. :bleeding:
Reggie Bush never become the star he was expected to be, but he's improved a lot and become a legitimately good player.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 28, 2013, 06:19:06 PM
Reggie Bush never become the star he was expected to be, but he's improved a lot and become a legitimately good player.
Yeah, he's alright. But remember how much you thought he was going to be the best thing ever to happen to the NFL?
Quote from: Neil on November 28, 2013, 08:25:53 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 28, 2013, 06:19:06 PM
Reggie Bush never become the star he was expected to be, but he's improved a lot and become a legitimately good player.
Yeah, he's alright. But remember how much you thought he was going to be the best thing ever to happen to the NFL?
5,016 yards at 4.4 per carry and 417 receptions for 3,178 yards is a fine career! :blurgh:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 28, 2013, 08:44:40 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 28, 2013, 08:25:53 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 28, 2013, 06:19:06 PM
Reggie Bush never become the star he was expected to be, but he's improved a lot and become a legitimately good player.
Yeah, he's alright. But remember how much you thought he was going to be the best thing ever to happen to the NFL?
5,016 yards at 4.4 per carry and 417 receptions for 3,178 yards is a fine career! :blurgh:
Sure. He's been pretty good. But he never earned the attention for his play that he earned from his camera-whoring.
Typical Rapistburger backyard ball bullshit.
Man, Bell got obliterated.
So Tomlin was in Jacoby Jones' way on a return? What the hell is that bush league shit?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 29, 2013, 12:14:54 AM
So Tomlin was in Jacoby Jones' way on a return? What the hell is that bush league shit?
Don't fuck with NFL Properties.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 29, 2013, 12:17:03 AM
Don't fuck with NFL Properties.
I didn't watch the game because Texas was playing, so I'm probably way more irritated by this than I should be, but:
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what the fuck? No flag or anything???? Dude is on the field, looks back, waits a second, THEN moves over. Jones has to move back in, and gets tackled fairly quickly. Thats horseshit and should be 15 (or whatever) + a fine.
E: A BIG fine. Get off the field, asshole.
You should've seen the footage of the big grin on his face afterwards, too.
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Of course it doesn't get called. It's all about NFL Properties, and NFL Properties has a vested financial interest in the Pittsburgh Steelers making the playoffs whenever possible.
You fuckers think I'm insane, and that's OK. But I'll just keep rolling out the evidence, and you people can just keep ignoring it.
Yep. That grin is infuriating, especially in context. Fuck the Steelers.
I'm starting to think PA just doesn't have anything to offer the world. Maybe walling it off and using it as a new nuclear testing area would be a good idea. We have to make sure those things work, right?
Yeah, that was bullshit. Jones should have just run him down and added the 15-yard penalty. Or been awarded a touchdown for Tomlin's blatently unfair act.
I agree it should have been a penalty, but the Ravens won, so don't get all bent out of shape about it.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 29, 2013, 12:36:31 AM
I agree it should have been a penalty, but the Ravens won, so don't get all bent out of shape about it.
No, fuck that. Dude was out on the field during a live play and actively influenced what was going on. Fine + suspension. Whatever happened to that idiot Jets coach who tripped a player?
Quote from: Neil on November 29, 2013, 12:35:49 AM
Yeah, that was bullshit. Jones should have just run him down and added the 15-yard penalty. Or been awarded a touchdown for Tomlin's blatently unfair act.
Funny how he didn't get flagged for impeding the referee, either...unlike last week, where--in non-NFL Properties Land--coaching staffs get flagged for impeding officials covering returns...
QuoteJacoby Jones, with the aid of that block, returned the ball 37 yards. The Jets were also called for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty when a member of the Jets staff -- apparently an assistant coach upset with the collision -- impeded an official along the sideline.
--at the 1:30 mark.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/baltimore-ravens/0ap2000000286864/Week-12-Ravens-vs-Jets-highlights
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 29, 2013, 12:38:04 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 29, 2013, 12:36:31 AM
I agree it should have been a penalty, but the Ravens won, so don't get all bent out of shape about it.
No, fuck that. Dude was out on the field during a live play and actively influenced what was going on on the field.
You can appreciate Timmay's perspective, though, considering what the Patriots have gotten away with over the years, from videotapes to getting rules invented for them on the fly.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 29, 2013, 12:39:16 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 29, 2013, 12:38:04 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 29, 2013, 12:36:31 AM
I agree it should have been a penalty, but the Ravens won, so don't get all bent out of shape about it.
No, fuck that. Dude was out on the field during a live play and actively influenced what was going on on the field.
You can appreciate Timmay's perspective, though, considering what the Patriots have gotten away with over the years, from videotapes to getting rules invented for them on the fly.
I hope the Ravens win their first playoff game so Belichick and Brady can run up the score on them.
The Ravens should sign Bernard Pollard for that one game.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 29, 2013, 12:40:42 AM
I hope the Ravens win their first playoff game so Belichick and Brady can run up the score on them.
I hope you get shot down in a KAL flight by a twitchy PLA pilot.
QuoteWhy the New York Jets Have Been So Bad for So Long
Blame decades of mismanagement by owners and coaches uninterested in long-term solutions.
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/11/why-the-new-york-jets-have-been-so-bad-for-so-long/281917/
To paraphrase Georges Clemenceau on Brazil, the New York Jets are the team of the future—and always will be. In 1969 the Jets tossed the pro football world on its head when the AFL upstart Jets were led by Joe Namath to a Super Bowl victory over the NFL old-guard team Baltimore Colts. Since then, the Jets have accomplished nothing—despite intermittent reboots of team management and proclamations that the future will soon be brighter.
The team has never been back to the Super Bowl; four times they were one victory away and lost. That makes one Super Bowl appearance from 1969 till now. Only the Detroit Lions and the Arizona (formerly the St. Louis) Cardinals have a worse won-lost record among franchises that have been around at least half a century.
Why has the team been so bad for so long? Blame a persistent shortsightedness among its leaders over the year.
Much of the Jets' history of futility over the decades can be traced to Leon Hess, an oil-company billionaire. Hess, along with Sonny Werblin and three other investors, purchased the franchise in 1963 and by 1984 had bought out the other investors to become the team's sole owner. Hess was well liked, but fans complained in those years that the team didn't seem to be run by "football people"—that is, management grounded in the strategy, tactics, and economics of the game. Hess seemed more interested in the prestige of owning a pro football team and treating his friends to a box-seat view than in building a solid franchise.
After Hess died in 1999, the Jets were sold for $635 million to Woody Johnson, heir of the Johnson & Johnson fortune. He has proved he knows as little about the game as Hess did. A September a headline in the New York Daily News called him "clueless," one of the kinder descriptions of his football acumen.
This inept line of owners has resulted in a series of false starts for the Jets. Nearly every new coach hired over the years has brought with him the promise of a new day. Walt Michaels, after four seasons (1977-1980) without a winning record, took the Jets to a 10-5-1 record in 1980 before losing in the first round of the playoffs. One year later, Michaels was gone. In 1985, coached by Joe Walton, they were 11-5 and lost in the first round of the playoffs. In Walton's seven seasons he won just one playoff game. Pete Carroll grabbed a national championship with the University of Southern California and is currently having great success with the Seattle Seahawks, but when he came to New York in 1994 the best he could manage was 6-10. In 1995, Hess fired Carroll and announced he was hiring Rich Kotite because, "I want results now." He got them, but not the kind he was looking for: The Jets were 4-28 in two seasons under Kotite.
In 1998 the Jets finally got a football man to head the team; Bill Parcells had won two Super Bowls with the Giants and in 1996 had coached the New England Patriots to the big game. Even Parcells could do no better in three seasons than a 29-19 with a 1-1 record in the postseason.
And so on. In 2009, with management once again impatient to win—Woody Johnson told the press, echoing Leon Hess, "I think our fans deserve a winner now" —Rex Ryan was hired to fill the head job. Rex had no head coaching experience but did have a great pedigree as the son of beloved NFL coach and one-time Jets defensive guru Buddy Ryan.
In 2009 and 2010, Rex went 20-12 and won four of six playoff games, losing the conference championships in both years in tough games. But in those losses the Jets showed enough heart for their fans to think that in this dawn the sun would surely rise. Since then, the Jets have won 19 and lost 24.
In the October 22 Wall Street Journal, Kevin Clark, in one of those judgments a sportswriter would rather forget, wrote that Ryan's "bone-shattering defense" was "back atop the football world, having stopped the New England Patriots in overtime." That proved to be yet another false start: The next week, the Jets gave up 402 yards to the Cincinnati Bengals in a 49-9 loss.
It was one of five times this year the Jets have followed a victory with a defeat. This week, according to USA Today's Jeff Sagarin, the most reliable power ratings analyst, the Jets are the 30th-best team in the league, ahead of only the Houston Texans and Jacksonville Jaguars. The Jets defense, which is supposed to be their strength, has given up 287 points this season, making it 25th in the NFL; they have been outscored by 101 points, the second worst differential in the league.
In general manager Mike Tannenbaum, Woody Johnson and Rex Ryan found a front-office man whose shortsightedness matched their own. Instead of building a solid foundation for the team through drafts, trades, and free agent acquisitions, Tannenbaum never stopped believing that one star quarterback would turn everything around. Let's call this the curse of Joe Namath.
In 2008, Eric Mangini's last year as coach, Tannenbaum brought in a washed-up, 39-year-old Brett Favre, who lasted one season. In 2012, with Ryan as coach, the GM proved he had learned nothing from the Favre debacle and created yet another media circus by signing Tim Tebow, a quarterback apparently never intended to be used in any capacity. Tebow was dumped unceremoniously in April. The only benefit from these two moves was the extra money the team made from jersey and sweatshirt sales.
This year the Jets replaced Tannenbaum with John Idzik, formerly of the Seattle Seahawks. Idzik aped his predecessor by going after another hot-shot quarterback. It should have been a clue that the other 31 teams passed on Geno Smith in the draft before the Jets got to him, yet the Jets brain trust insisted that Smith was a franchise quarterback. So far this year Smith—who has completed 55.2 percent of his passes for an average 7.0 yds/try and throwing 8 TDs to 18 interceptions—is having just about exactly the same success as the man replaced, the much-maligned Mark Sanchez.
But what's a guy supposed to do, Smith would be justified in asking, when he gets lousy pass blocking and the defense is so bad that you're always playing catch-up? Sanchez would have been right to ask the same questions. His passing numbers in 2011 and 2012, when the New York media roasted him and the fans nearly booed him off the field, were virtually the same as they were in 2009 and 2010, when he had the Jets just one game away from the Super Bowl.
The main difference between the 2011-12 Jets and the 2009-10 team is pass protection. On the 2011-12 team the Jets quarterback was sacked or knocked down twice as often and the Jets defense collapsed. In Sanchez's rookie year the Jets were first in the league in fewest points allowed; the next year they dropped to sixth. In both 2011 and 2012 they were 20th. Now they're 25th. Does anyone see a trend here?
Every embarrassing Jets defeat spurs another round of debate over whether Ryan should be fired. But what difference will firing the coach make unless the entire team is rebooted under a new concept--where patience and sound judgment prevail over the concept of the quick fix?
"I want results now," Hess said. Well, don't we all? But until the Jets learn to plan for the future, they're never going to have a present.
More no penalty, post game fines for the Steelers. That's how the league helps them. It's fucking bullshit.
William Gay's hit to Jason Campbell's head, which wasn't penalized, draws a large fine
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/william-gay-hit-jason-campbell-head-wasn-t-214743267--nfl.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/william-gay-hit-jason-campbell-head-wasn-t-214743267--nfl.html)
Yeah, that was crazy. That's like a textbook of when to throw a flag. He just punched him out.
NFL Playoff Machine is up. Post your projections!
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Right after I bet my mom Denver would come back from 21-7 Decker hauled in a 42 yard pass. :)
7 points down is nothing for Superman.
It must not be cold in KC today.
You and Seedy have father figure issues.
It wasn't just cold at New England, it was crazy windy.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 29, 2013, 12:26:23 AM
You should've seen the footage of the big grin on his face afterwards, too.
Of course it doesn't get called. It's all about NFL Properties, and NFL Properties has a vested financial interest in the Pittsburgh Steelers making the playoffs whenever possible.
You fuckers think I'm insane, and that's OK. But I'll just keep rolling out the evidence, and you people can just keep ignoring it.
Yep, the Steelers get away with all kinds of shit... oh wait:
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Mike Tomlin incident might cost Steelers a draft pick]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000290187/article/mike-tomlin-incident-might-cost-steelers-a-draft-pick]Mike Tomlin incident might cost Steelers a draft pick (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000290187/article/mike-tomlin-incident-might-cost-steelers-a-draft-pick)
Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin came wicked close to hitting kick returner Jacoby Jones on Thanksgiving night.
The Baltimore Ravens took the incident in stride after the game -- likely because they still won despite the suspect move by Tomlin.
Pittsburgh likely won't be able to laugh off the error.
NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Sunday on NFL Network's "NFL GameDay Morning" that Tomlin and the Steelers each face a fine, as well as the possible loss of a draft pick for the sideline incident, according to league sources.
Tomlin was recently added to the competition committee, and the league will take that into consideration when it decides how hard to come down on the Steelers, according to Rapoport.
Another possible factor will be the weekly video sent to coaches by head of officiating Dean Blandino. Rapoport reported that this week's video, sent Wednesday, included a play in which the Jets were penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct for having personnel in the white area of the sideline, per a league source.
Fox's Jay Glazer first reported on the weekly video.
The NFL has not reviewed the entire tape, which likely will be done Monday. The league no doubt understands that the play would have been a much bigger issue if the Steelers won the game.
It's difficult to determine Tomlin's intent, but the NFL might decide to make an example of the Steelers in an effort to underscore to other coaches that they better be aware of where they stand during games.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2013, 06:15:07 PM
You and Seedy have father figure issues.
It wasn't just cold at New England, it was crazy windy.
I was actually thinking about last year's divisional game. And you know, all those playoff games through all those years where he was less than spectacular outside.
I would be surprised if they take a pick from the Steelers. I'm sure there'll be a big fine to keep coaches from thinking they can get away with this.
Who Dey.
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on December 01, 2013, 06:53:16 PM
Yep, the Steelers get away with all kinds of shit... oh wait:
I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, it's all conjecture. Just ask the Seahawks.
Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
Who Dey.
More like, "Why Dey", as in, "Why Dey Ain't Choke Yet, It's December Already."
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 01, 2013, 07:52:39 PM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on December 01, 2013, 06:53:16 PM
Yep, the Steelers get away with all kinds of shit... oh wait:
I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, it's all conjecture. Just ask the Seahawks.
Or the Cardinals. Or any of the other teams that have gotten screwed over by the refs on behalf of the Steelers. Fines are nothing compared to on the field equality in penalties and calls. Hell, they don't even typically get suspensions, no matter how many intentional concussions and other injuries they hand out. I really believe that monetary fines are ultimately worthless in terms of any real impact.
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 01, 2013, 10:23:55 PM
I coughed up a lung and passed out at the start of the game.
Probably wearing your Bengals snuggie.
Ed was too busy watching the Browns, as he is wont to do when nobody's around.
See, BA...all the Brownies need is a little more talent at the skill positions. They're going in the right direction. Let's just hope Joe Haden doesn't go on a shooting spree first.
Actually, I did watch the Brownies. More entertaining than I thought it would be.
Saturday's day of awesome football drained me.
You see the video from the OSU team bus as they were watching the end of the Ala-Aub game?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 01, 2013, 10:34:39 PM
You see the video from the OSU team bus as they were watching the end of the Ala-Aub game?
Yeah. :lol:
I'm watching the news right now waiting for the reports of one guy in Austin rioting after that 1st down/4th down clusterfuck at the end of that game. :P
E: I'm not sure they would have won, since the Redskins pass catchers apparently replaced their hands with cinder blocks at some point, but still.
At least Jeff Triplette didn't blind anybody.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 01, 2013, 11:41:00 PM
At least Jeff Triplette didn't blind anybody.
Well, I guess that means he's making progress.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on December 01, 2013, 11:39:36 PM
I'm watching the news right now waiting for the reports of one guy in Austin rioting right now after that 1st down/4th down clusterfuck at the end of that game. :P
I was too demoralized with the shitty way the 2nd quarter ended and turned it off. THere is only so much shit show I can take.
Case Keenum looked pretty damn good for a rookie to me.
In LFFL news, no playoffs for me. :( So close, yet so far.
Both my running backs were out with injuries and yet it still seems that I'll probably win. I've been ridiculously lucky this season. :huh:
I have tickets to the game tonight. :yeah:
Quote from: Kleves on December 02, 2013, 09:28:23 AM
I have tickets to the game tonight. :yeah:
I heard it might possibly get loud there :P
Costco has two Super Bowl tickets (lower level), 4 nights in the Westin Times Square, transportation and all that shit for a mere $16,000. Just in case anyone is interested in Super Bowl tickets.
I think I just need Beast Mode to get off the team bus tonight in order to win the week in LFFL against Teh Burgermakers. Hopefully he'll put up some points for a change.
Looking over my ESPN league, I'm going to be 8-5. Not bad for somebody who started 1-4.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on December 02, 2013, 10:38:03 AM
Costco has two Super Bowl tickets (lower level), 4 nights in the Westin Times Square, transportation and all that shit for a mere $16,000. Just in case anyone is interested in Super Bowl tickets.
I keep waiting for my chance to go for free :mellow:
Quote from: derspiess on December 02, 2013, 11:13:54 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on December 02, 2013, 10:38:03 AM
Costco has two Super Bowl tickets (lower level), 4 nights in the Westin Times Square, transportation and all that shit for a mere $16,000. Just in case anyone is interested in Super Bowl tickets.
I keep waiting for my chance to go for free :mellow:
The power of your positive thinking is being erased by Ed's cynicism.
In honor of tonight's game, I give you the run that literally caused an earthquake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDOBejlx7Us
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on December 02, 2013, 10:38:03 AM
Costco has two Super Bowl tickets (lower level), 4 nights in the Westin Times Square, transportation and all that shit for a mere $16,000. Just in case anyone is interested in Super Bowl tickets.
For that kind of money that better include the time machine and premium seats for Super Bowl XXII.
Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2013, 01:31:07 PM
for Super Bowl XXII.
:bleeding:
Bernie's Browns would've torched Dougie Fresh. DAMN YOU JEREMIAH CASTILLE DAMN YOU TO HELL
Quote from: Kleves on December 02, 2013, 01:04:30 PM
In honor of tonight's game, I give you the run that literally caused an earthquake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDOBejlx7Us (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDOBejlx7Us)
I like this version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSZdntRnQVg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSZdntRnQVg)
Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2013, 01:31:07 PM
For that kind of money that better include the time machine and premium seats for Super Bowl XXII.
There's some sort of pregame party on a yacht with Archie Manning speaking about one thing or another, and various "NFL Alumni" guests.
ESPN pregame had an adorable story about a 4-year old girl who knew every player, their number and their position on the Seahawks. Super cute.
Uh, oh. Neil's getting soft :unsure:
Quote from: derspiess on December 02, 2013, 08:31:59 PM
Uh, oh. Neil's getting soft :unsure:
What makes you say that? I can be kind to children, so long as they share my interests.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 11:08:02 AM
I think I just need Beast Mode to get off the team bus tonight in order to win the week in LFFL against Teh Burgermakers. Hopefully he'll put up some points for a change.
I grow increasingly annoyed at Pete Carroll's willful disregard of the concept of running the ball, in turn wasting the talents of one of the NFL's best workhorse running backs.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 11:54:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 11:08:02 AM
I think I just need Beast Mode to get off the team bus tonight in order to win the week in LFFL against Teh Burgermakers. Hopefully he'll put up some points for a change.
I grow increasingly annoyed at Pete Carroll's willful disregard of the concept of running the ball, in turn wasting the talents of one of the NFL's best workhorse running backs.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Lynch ran for 45 yds, Wilson...47.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 11:54:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 11:08:02 AM
I think I just need Beast Mode to get off the team bus tonight in order to win the week in LFFL against Teh Burgermakers. Hopefully he'll put up some points for a change.
I grow increasingly annoyed at Pete Carroll's willful disregard of the concept of running the ball, in turn wasting the talents of one of the NFL's best workhorse running backs.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
It would appear the SeaChickens are doing rather well this year. <_<
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Baldwin said Seattle saw a specific blitz package from the Saints on film and that the Seahawks knew they would have chances to go downfield.
"We wanted to be great against the blitz," Wilson said. " ... We knew they were going to bring some pressure and we like the sense of pressure because there is a lot of green grass behind it."
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=331202026 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=331202026)
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 11:54:08 PM
I grow increasingly annoyed at Pete Carroll's willful disregard of the concept of running the ball, in turn wasting the talents of one of the NFL's best workhorse running backs.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Running the ball is obsolete, thank the NFL rules committee for that.
Lynch YPC - 4.3
Wilson Y/A - 8.8
Outside of situational short yardage carries, the only reason to run is to keep the defense honest.
(note that Seahawks lead conference in carries - that does include Wilson however)
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 03, 2013, 02:46:38 PM
Running the ball is obsolete, thank the NFL rules committee for that.
"We're going to use the pass to set up the pass."
If only Don Coryell were alive to see it now.
Fouts would have had 800 pass attempts.
Can't hold anything back now.
:XD:
Speaking of fumbles, is this scary, or what?
106. Roger Staubach+ 55 1969-1979 dal
Tony Romo (32) 55 2004-2013 dal
Joe Flacco (27) 55 2008-2013 rav
Another reason never should have signed him to long term contract!!!!1
$100,000 fine for Tomlin, and the Steelers are going to get docked a draft pick at some point.
^_^
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Out of absolutely nowhere, Bill Belichick took a hilarious shot at the Jets this morning at his initial news conference of Week 14.
Belichick, who coached the Browns from 1991-95, was asked if he still had any affinity for the organization due to his time spent there. After all, it was his first head coaching gig, though it came to a close when the organization moved to Baltimore.
"I was there for five years," Belichick said. "It was five important years in my life, for myself, my family and all that. Obviously, we've all moved on, and I have a job to do here and that's where my loyalty is, is to Robert (Kraft), the Patriots organization and this football team. So it's no different than how I feel, honestly, about the Colts, or the Lions or the Broncos. I feel differently about the Jets. We won't put them in that category.
"Good experiences with all of those teams, and we learned from them, grew as a coach, and as a person and as a family. But we're at a different time and a different place. This is where we are now, so I'll try to make the most out of this one."
Belichick famously quit the Jets in 2000 to take a job with the Patriots, and the two organizations have shared a cold-blooded rivalry for more than two decades. Belichick's dig at the Jets this morning was the latest example. It was clearly a joke, but it was a funny shot nonetheless.
Both you and Belicheat can go eat a bag of dicks.
Gary Kubiak was fired by the Texans.
That's not particularly surprising after what went down this season.