$70 for a plain white T-shirt? :wacko:
If I woke up tomorrow as rich a J.D. Rockefeller I still wouldn't pay that for a white T-shirt.
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/plain-white-t-shirt-7-or-70-how-wealth-gap-2D11603679
QuotePlain white T-shirt for $7 or $70? How wealth gap is changing retail
Allison Linn CNBC
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The growing wealth gap between the richest and poorest Americans is increasingly creating a shopping chasm between those who are trading up and those who are trading down, experts say. What's missing is the middle.
"There is a two Americas kind of thing going on," said Chris Christopher, director of U.S. and global consumer markets for IHS Global Insight.
The result is a retail marketplace in which even basic goods like socks and razors are becoming either incredibly cheap or extremely expensive, experts say.
Say you're a guy who needs a new T-shirt. A shopper who feels like he has fallen down the economic ladder might opt for the $6.98 Kmart version. But a tech industry hotshot for whom things are looking up might be tempted by the $70 version available at Barneys.
Is there a new baby in the family? Cash-strapped shoppers might head to Wal-Mart for a $6.96 hoodie to bundle up that bundle of joy. The high-end shopper, on the other hand, might be looking toward the $135 cashmere version available from J Crew.
Looking to get back to the gym before the holidays? The 1 percent may go for Lululemon's $98 yoga pants (despite their recent troubles) but the 99 percent is likely tempted by the $14.99 version available at Target.
On the high-end side, experts say retailers are seeing an opportunity to snag consumers who have fared well in the weak economic recovery and now want the best of everything — even if it's a toothbrush, hair dryer, coffee maker or razor.
"A lot of even basic items have gone premium," said Milton Pedraza, chief executive of the Luxury Institute, a consulting firm focused on wealthy consumers. He said one company even contacted him recently about the possibility of developing a luxury detergent.
On the lower-end side, experts say other retailers are seeing the opportunity — or necessity — of appealing to the wide swath of Americans who lost economic ground during the deep recession and weak recovery.
Brian Sozzi, chief equities strategist at Belus Capital Advisors, points to the success of stores such as Dollar Tree, which sells everyday items at deep discounts. But he also notes that, as competition increases to offer basic goods for the lowest price, consumers are at risk of getting a raw deal because the cheap goods are, well, cheap.
"A lot of retailers, they say they're investing in price. What they're basically doing is they're taking quality out of the product and then offering the product at a cheaper price," Sozzi said.
The bifurcation also is threatening the department stores, mall shops and other retailers that once appealed to America's broad middle of the economic spectrum and now are at risk of getting squeezed out.
"It's the middle tiers that are struggling for definition," said Christopher, of IHS Global Insight.
The shift comes as some economists see more evidence that the wealth gap has widened in the four years since the nation officially came out of recession. An analysis of income gains between 2009 and 2012, released last month by economists at University of California, Berkeley, found that the top 1 percent of incomes grew by 31.4 percent during that three-year period of economic recovery, while the rest of the 99 percent saw income gains of just 0.4 percent.
Robert Shiller, the Yale professor who won the Nobel prize for economics earlier this year, told The Associated Press last month that rising inequality is "the most important problem that we are facing today."
One big concern is that many Americans who consider themselves middle class are now worse off financially than they were five or six years ago, and therefore have less money to spend. The nation's median household income is still below the level it was in 2007, the year the nation went into recession, after adjusting for inflation.
Experts say there is one thing that high- and low-end consumers have in common: They are all becoming savvier shoppers.
David Rabkin, senior vice president of consumer lending for American Express, which studies shopping trends, said its data has shown that shoppers of all income levels have become more careful about what they purchase. In addition, they are more mindful of a sale or good deal, and less likely to take on debt.
Rabkin thinks those savvy habits are here to stay.
"We don't really expect people to go back to pre-recession behavior any time in the predictable future," he said.
What a silly article.
Quote from: garbon on November 19, 2013, 11:28:32 PM
What a silly article.
Write an essay expressing your opinion.
You're not paying $70 for a white t-shirt. You're paying $63 to not have to mingle with the people buying $7 t-shirts. :bowler:
Well there is still the store staff.
Quote from: Razgovory on November 19, 2013, 11:43:05 PM
Well there is still the store staff.
And don't they put on airs. <_<
Rising inequality in the US = a real problem
This particular alleged example of it = dumb
Quote from: Camerus on November 20, 2013, 01:24:38 AM
Rising inequality in the US = a real problem
This particular alleged example of it = dumb
I'm not sure that all our conservative friends are on board the whole "Rising inequality in the US = a real problem", ship.
$70 for a plain white t-shirt? At that price it better be dirt repellent and handwoven by the Pope.
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"There is a two Americas kind of thing going on," said Chris Christopher, director of U.S. and global consumer markets for IHS Global Insight.
People who talk like this should be shot.
That is all.
If I was rich enough to pay seventy bucks for a t-shirt, I'd spend the money on toys instead. Most of those customers don't have a plane or even a boat.
I ain't spending 70 bucks for a t-shirt. I ain't too good to shop with the scum to get a bargain.
Quote from: Camerus on November 20, 2013, 01:24:38 AM
Rising inequality in the US = a real problem
This particular alleged example of it = dumb
Places like J Crew or Ann Taylor that have sold "basics" at ridiculous prices have existed since before Bush, Part Deux.
Case in point? Old Navy/Gap. Same company, same materials, very, very similar styles, massive price chasm.
A fine article. The non Monkeybutt rich are scum.
Quote from: Ideologue on November 20, 2013, 09:32:24 AM
A fine article. The non Monkeybutt rich are scum.
I won't be going against the wall! :yeah:
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 20, 2013, 07:53:29 AM
I ain't too good to shop with the scum
Well, of course, you live in Ohio. :P
:hmm:
I looked up Barney's white tee and got this.
http://www.barneys.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-BNY-Site/default/Product-Show?pid=062245435
On sale for $19, regularly $35.
And then below there are a few $45-$50 ones with different neck cuts.
Hanes t-shirts are the best bang for the buck. I'd put them above Jockey these days.
http://www.okayplayer.com/news/style-kanye-west-apc-120-plain-white-hiphop-t-shirt-sells-out.html#.UozLG-IUZ8E
QuoteNot Okay: Kanye West's $120 Plain White "Hiphop" T-Shirt Sells Out Instantly
Just to prove once again what we already knew (ie that he can just make any old thing and his fans will eat it up) Kanye West AKA Our Lord Yeezus Christ dropped a $120 white "hip-hop" tee in collaboration with high-end brand A.P.C.. If you can't already anticipate what happened next, the internets went all abuzz and it promptly sold out.
My question would be, who the hell pays US$120.00 for a plain white t-shirt? Granted it does have Our Lord's name printed on it (well in it, anyway–as the description says, the words A.P.C. KANYE are silkscreened inside the neckline) and how often do you get to buy a fabricated signature from a God. That almost makes it worth the price BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE. This chumpy also features 1) Short Sleeves 2) Ribbing at the Neckline and 3) is constructed of 100% Egyptian cotton, so when you add all that up, this seems less like shameless self-aggrandizement for Kanye and more like promo for Macklemore & Ryan Lewis' track "Thrift Shop" (I call THAT getting swindled and pimped (shit) / I call THAT getting tricked by a business...)
Did Kanye pick the cotton himself?
I buy cheap t-shirts etc at H&M and the like. But stuff like shoes, jackets, jeans... I go brand, baby. They define me as a person.