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Title: Municipal elections suck
Post by: Barrister on October 21, 2013, 10:37:11 AM
It's muni voting day in Alberta.  The mayoralty race is open, so it's attracted some attention.  But I don't really know the issues much, so I thought I'd do some research in order to decide who to vote for - not only for mayor, but for city councillor and school trustee.

Ugh.

Say what you will about federal or provincial elections, but there's at least some level of policy difference between the candidates.  Not so at municipal elections.  There are no set "platforms" that I can see, just vague sets of catchphrases and keywords that are interchangeable between the candidates.  And of course it's worse of all when you get to the school board level.
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: crazy canuck on October 21, 2013, 11:32:29 AM
I am not as surprised that Edmonton doesnt generate a diversity of political views at the local level.  If you want municipal politics where the candidates represent very different positions you should live around here.  Municipal politics are often more interesting than the Provincal and certainly more interesting than the Federal varieties.
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: Barrister on October 21, 2013, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 21, 2013, 11:32:29 AM
I am not as surprised that Edmonton doesnt generate a diversity of political views at the local level.  If you want municipal politics where the candidates represent very different positions you should live around here.  Municipal politics are often more interesting than the Provincal and certainly more interesting than the Federal varieties.

It's not so much that there isn't a diversity of views.  I believe there is.

It's that you can't actually tell what that diversity is by looking at campaign literature / websites.  Issues about density vs sprawl, infrastructure investments and high debt loads, vs more modest ambitions.

Instead I get gobledygook about "visions for the future" and "consulting stakeholders".
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: The Brain on October 21, 2013, 01:43:44 PM
Is there a hot chick?
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: DGuller on October 21, 2013, 01:53:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 21, 2013, 10:37:11 AM
It's muni voting day in Alberta.  The mayoralty race is open, so it's attracted some attention.  But I don't really know the issues much, so I thought I'd do some research in order to decide who to vote for - not only for mayor, but for city councillor and school trustee.

Ugh.

Say what you will about federal or provincial elections, but there's at least some level of policy difference between the candidates.  Not so at municipal elections.  There are no set "platforms" that I can see, just vague sets of catchphrases and keywords that are interchangeable between the candidates.  And of course it's worse of all when you get to the school board level.
The senselessness of the politicians is inversely proportional with the power of the office.  The ugliest politics happen at the neighborhood and school district level.  The only exception to that rule is US Congress.
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 21, 2013, 03:40:41 PM
There's one dude who keeps running over and over for a city council seat in Iowa City who's entire platform is legalization of chicken raising within city limits.
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: The Brain on October 21, 2013, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 21, 2013, 03:40:41 PM
There's one dude who keeps running over and over for a city council seat in Iowa City who's entire platform is legalization of chicken raising within city limits.

Is his name Himmler?
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: Barrister on October 21, 2013, 03:48:33 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 21, 2013, 03:40:41 PM
There's one dude who keeps running over and over for a city council seat in Iowa City who's entire platform is legalization of chicken raising within city limits.

That's more of a platform than any of the turkeys I get to vote for today have put forward.
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: Savonarola on October 21, 2013, 04:14:41 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 21, 2013, 03:40:41 PM
There's one dude who keeps running over and over for a city council seat in Iowa City who's entire platform is legalization of chicken raising within city limits.

There was one guy who ran for the city council in one of Detroit's suburbs who ran on a platform of ending US recognition for Israel.  After losing he ran for the school board on the same platform (and did about as well.)
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: The Brain on October 21, 2013, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on October 21, 2013, 04:14:41 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 21, 2013, 03:40:41 PM
There's one dude who keeps running over and over for a city council seat in Iowa City who's entire platform is legalization of chicken raising within city limits.

There was one guy who ran for the city council in one of Detroit's suburbs who ran on a platform of ending US recognition for Israel.  After losing he ran for the school board on the same platform (and did about as well.)

What a shocker. It's amazing how many people still claim that Jews don't control everything.
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: Neil on October 21, 2013, 04:29:19 PM
Yeah, it's tough to parse through the nonsense to find out what these clowns stand for.  Fortunately, one of the two councilor candidates I was considering left a flyer on my windshield this morning, which meant that I didn't have to consider voting for him after all.

Still, with no platforms and no polling, it's impossible to vote effectively.  And that's the way they like it.
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: Neil on October 21, 2013, 07:57:31 PM
I went and voted.
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: MadImmortalMan on October 21, 2013, 08:03:34 PM
We have a guy who has been, for the last decade or so, taking the floor at city council meetings and singing songs about city politics while playing his guitar. He also runs for city council every time and occasionally for mayor. Sometimes he doesn't have any new songs so he just sings some James Taylor or Bob Dylan.


I'm sure he'll be singing about school shootings at the next meeting.
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 21, 2013, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 21, 2013, 08:03:34 PM
We have a guy who has been, for the last decade or so, taking the floor at city council meetings and singing songs about city politics while playing his guitar. He also runs for city council every time and occasionally for mayor. Sometimes he doesn't have any new songs so he just sings some James Taylor or Bob Dylan.


I'm sure he'll be singing about school shootings at the next meeting.

Jeremy?  Janie's Got a Gun?  Try to hook the youngsters with Pumped Up Kicks? :P
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: Grey Fox on October 21, 2013, 08:31:27 PM
Our municipal elections are on the 3rd of November.

I live in Laval, our last mayor, in office since 1989, quit & was arrested & accused of, among other things, gangsterism.

Yet the race with 8 mayor candidate is boring as hell. Everyone is running on integrity & turning our streets into Bicyle lovers. :x
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: PRC on October 21, 2013, 11:45:00 PM
I voted in Calgary.  Nenshi, the Purple Emperor, is a lock for Mayor but we have a lot of interesting and close Councilor races.  The main issue in the Calgary election has been the home building developers vs. the increased density advocates, urban sprawl versus so called sustainable development.
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: Caliga on October 22, 2013, 12:32:49 PM
Municipal elections in the rural county where I live are always fun.  There's always at least one candidate named Nation or Shelburne since those two families dominate local politics.

YEW SHOULD VOTE FER ME BECAUSE AH HAVE LIVED HERE MAH WHOLE LAFF AND AH REALLY CARE

Cool, so I should vote for someone who has zero sense of perspective.  Gotcha. :cool:
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: The Brain on October 22, 2013, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: Caliga on October 22, 2013, 12:32:49 PM
Municipal elections in the rural county where I live are always fun.  There's always at least one candidate named Nation or Shelburne since those two families dominate local politics.

YEW SHOULD VOTE FER ME BECAUSE AH HAVE LIVED HERE MAH WHOLE LAFF AND AH REALLY CARE

Cool, so I should vote for someone who has zero sense of perspective.  Gotcha. :cool:

Do you guys go down to the turnpike on Sundays and watch the city folks in their horseless carriages?
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: Caliga on October 22, 2013, 01:50:28 PM
We call them 'magic chariots'.  Duh. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Municipal elections suck
Post by: merithyn on October 23, 2013, 03:17:51 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 21, 2013, 03:40:41 PM
There's one dude who keeps running over and over for a city council seat in Iowa City who's entire platform is legalization of chicken raising within city limits.

We had one like that in Champaign. He got elected last time, and now we get chickens in Champaign. :)

(Urbana has been allowed them for years. We felt gyped. :( )