Don't know if any of you saw this, but she's pretty amazing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=f506lCk6Tos
We watched it when it aired. Yeah, she's pretty remarkable. It was fun watching Jon Stewart interview her, too. He was astoundingly gentle with her.
Quote from: merithyn on October 11, 2013, 01:10:32 PM
We watched it when it aired. Yeah, she's pretty remarkable. It was fun watching Jon Stewart interview her, too. He was astoundingly gentle with her.
I thought it was quite interesting how she almost kicked into oratory mode when speaking.
She definitely knew her lines.
She's awesome.
Why didn't she win the Nobel?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 11, 2013, 01:56:10 PM
She's awesome.
Why didn't she win the Nobel?
There was concern over her age. A number of former Nobel Peace Prize winners came out and said that it may not be in her best interest to win it at her age. It set a standard that she may never be able to live up to.
I'm not sure that I agree, but they did raise some interesting points.
She can still win The Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel. It's no Nobel Prize, but might work as consolation prize.
I could see her winning it another year. We're going to continue to see a lot of her, I think.... I hope.
Quote from: merithyn on October 11, 2013, 01:59:22 PM
There was concern over her age. A number of former Nobel Peace Prize winners came out and said that it may not be in her best interest to win it at her age. It set a standard that she may never be able to live up to.
That's a lame excuse, the same thing happens to much older winners.
Obama hasn't been able to repeat the enormous achievement that gave him the Prize.
Saw that one live, she is pretty awesome.
It was interesting to see how Stewart treated the Secretary from the Administraion the night before compare to the kid gloves he used on her. Not inappropriate of course, but interesting.
I look at her, then look at my 13 year old son, and yeah, he has some work to do.
Quote from: citizen k on October 11, 2013, 02:26:50 PM
That's a lame excuse, the same thing happens to much older winners.
Agree.
Quote from: Berkut on October 11, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
I look at her, then look at my 13 year old son, and yeah, he has some work to do.
I think she said it best, you dont know how important something is until it is taken from you. We in North America take education for granted and we as parents have a bit of a battle convincing them how important it is.
Plus, she is 16, he has a few years to get nominated.
Quote from: merithyn on October 11, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
She definitely knew her lines.
These are almost word for word exactly the same lines she used with a Canadian interviewer.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 11, 2013, 03:05:01 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 11, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
She definitely knew her lines.
These are almost word for word exactly the same lines she used with a Canadian interviewer.
after being asked the same question a hundred times you use the same answers again and again.
Quote from: The Brain on October 11, 2013, 02:29:49 PM
Obama hasn't been able to repeat the enormous achievement that gave him the Prize.
He got that for being elected didn't he? He has since got re-elected.
Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2013, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 11, 2013, 03:05:01 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 11, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
She definitely knew her lines.
These are almost word for word exactly the same lines she used with a Canadian interviewer.
after being asked the same question a hundred times you use the same answers again and again.
It wasn't meant as a dig. Rather, it's clearly something that she knows well, and knows how to express it.
Quote from: citizen k on October 11, 2013, 02:26:50 PM
That's a lame excuse, the same thing happens to much older winners.
Sure, but they have less time to feel like they've not lived up to something. She's 16. If she's lucky, she's got another 70 years ahead of her. That's a long time to feel badly if you don't do anything else of import.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on October 11, 2013, 03:23:31 PM
Quote from: The Brain on October 11, 2013, 02:29:49 PM
Obama hasn't been able to repeat the enormous achievement that gave him the Prize.
He got that for being elected didn't he? He has since got re-elected.
If he was re-elected where's his second Prize?
Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2013, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 11, 2013, 03:05:01 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 11, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
She definitely knew her lines.
These are almost word for word exactly the same lines she used with a Canadian interviewer.
after being asked the same question a hundred times you use the same answers again and again.
Different questions though. Stewart asked her about when she first encountered the Taliban and the Canadian interview asked about what she would do if she went back to Packistan and met the Taliban. In both instances she used the shoe story word for word. Probably because the answer works in both contexts.
I am just observing that she has been well prepared for this media blitz and knows her lines well - As Meri already observed. I admire her for her poise. I dont know any adults who would hold up as well as she has done so impressively.
Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2013, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 11, 2013, 03:05:01 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 11, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
She definitely knew her lines.
These are almost word for word exactly the same lines she used with a Canadian interviewer.
after being asked the same question a hundred times you use the same answers again and again.
CC's been saying the same thing for years
:lol: ;)
Quote from: Josephus on October 11, 2013, 05:37:41 PM
Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2013, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 11, 2013, 03:05:01 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 11, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
She definitely knew her lines.
These are almost word for word exactly the same lines she used with a Canadian interviewer.
after being asked the same question a hundred times you use the same answers again and again.
CC's been saying the same thing for years
:lol: ;)
You are comparing me to Malala? I am honoured but your praise is misplaced.
Quote from: merithyn on October 11, 2013, 03:27:15 PM
Sure, but they have less time to feel like they've not lived up to something. She's 16. If she's lucky, she's got another 70 years ahead of her. That's a long time to feel badly if you don't do anything else of import.
I'm a little uncomfortable with the situation. But she's incredibly admirable and I hope she can do what she wants which is to get her education and then return to Pakistan and make some waves.
Quote from: Sheilbh on October 11, 2013, 06:03:26 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 11, 2013, 03:27:15 PM
Sure, but they have less time to feel like they've not lived up to something. She's 16. If she's lucky, she's got another 70 years ahead of her. That's a long time to feel badly if you don't do anything else of import.
I'm a little uncomfortable with the situation. But she's incredibly admirable and I hope she can do what she wants which is to get her education and then return to Pakistan and make some waves.
Pakistan politics is so murky, she'd probably be assassinated before she made any more waves.
Personally I think she deserved the prize for what she's done so far and what she might achieve in future outside of the country.
Such a reward might also give her the opportunity to put a line under the past and her campaign, if she then wants to settle down or follow a professional career not in international activism then good on her.
She is after all still only 16 years and a lot can change in the next formative 4-5 years of life. No need to pressurise someone so young into a very stressful career in the limelight.
We also don't know the long term medical ramifications of the head injuries, incidentally her possible difficulty using the appropriate voice volume might be a consequence of those injuries.
Quote from: mongers on October 11, 2013, 06:37:22 PM
Pakistan politics is so murky, she'd probably be assassinated before she made any more waves.
No doubt, but she's at risk regardless.
I think better that she can fade away from the news and have the chance of enjoying her education for a while than continue to be a Western cause celebre.
If she chooses to do something else then I'm sure she'll still deserve the prize at a future date for the work of her foundation.
Quote from: Sheilbh on October 11, 2013, 06:47:58 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 11, 2013, 06:37:22 PM
Pakistan politics is so murky, she'd probably be assassinated before she made any more waves.
No doubt, but she's at risk regardless.
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Just to clarify, I meant a racing certainly, like a 50+% of being assassinated within a year of returning.
At least over here, it might be a deranged local fundamentalist or she could be killed if we experienced a febrile atmosphere like that experienced in mid-60s America
Also in the West, elements of the security services won't be actively colluding with potential assassins, like they do in Pakistan.