Just terrible :( :( :(
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/21/20618440-at-least-39-dead-in-kenya-shopping-mall-attack-americans-among-scores-hurt?lite
QuoteAt least 39 dead in Kenya shopping mall attack; Americans among scores hurt
By Patrick Garrity and Simon Moya-Smith, NBC News
Gunmen stormed a crowded shopping mall frequented by Westerners on Saturday in the Kenyan capital of Nairobi in a terror attack, leaving at least 39 dead, Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta said. The U.S. State Department said American citizens were reportedly among the approximately 150 injured.
The militant Islamic group al-Shabab, based in neighboring Somalia, claimed responsibility for the attack via Twitter, saying it was in retaliation "for the lives of innocent Muslims" killed by Kenyan forces leading an African Union offensive against al-Shabab.
Manish Turohit, 18, who hid in a parking garage for two hours before leaving in a line of 15 people who exited with their hands in the air to avoid being shot, told al-Jazeera that gunmen carrying AK-47s and wearing vests with hand grenades on them stormed into the mall
"They just came in and threw a grenade," he said. "We were running and they opened fire. They were shouting and firing."
Another unnamed witness quoted by the Associated Press said an unknown number of gunmen entered the mall around noon local time and told Muslims to stand up and leave and that non-Muslims would be targeted.
After the initial onslaught, police helicopters circled above the mall as armed police shouted "get out! get out!" and scores of shoppers fled the building, Reuters reported. Smoke poured out of one entrance and witnesses said they heard grenade blasts.
Joseph Ole Lenku, Kenya's Secretary for Defense and Internal Affairs, later said government security forces had taken over the mall and that the situation was "under control," but gunfire was heard several hours after the attack began and al-Shabab claimed its fighters were still inside battling the government forces.
In a televised address to the nation late Saturday, President Kenyatta said at least 39 people had been killed, including some of his "very close family members," and 150 injured.
"The despicable perpetrators of this cowardly act hoped to intimidate, divide and cause despondency amongst Kenyans,'' he said. "We have overcome terrorist attacks before. We will defeat them again.'"
In Washington, the White House and State Department condemned the attack and promised to help the Kenyan government bring the perpetrators to justice.
"We will continue to stand with the Kenyan people in their efforts to confront terrorism in all its forms, including the threat posed by al-Shabab," the White House said in a statement. "This cowardly act against innocent civilians will not shake our resolve."
In a statement issued Saturday evening, a State Department official said the agency has received "reports that four U.S. citizens have been injured in the attack. ... Our consular officers have been in contact with the victims and have been providing all appropriate consular assistance." The official declined further comment, citing privacy concerns.
Federal sources told NBC News that the FBI had accounted for all U.S. Embassy personnel, none of whom were believed to have been at the mall at the time.
In a later update, however, the State Department said one of the dead was the wife of a foreign service national working for the U.S. Agency for International Development. U.S.AID is part of the State Department and works out of the U.S. Embassy.
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said two Canadian citizens were among the dead, including a diplomat. He did not identify either. France also said two of its citizens were dead
Al-Shabab tweeted that the attack was "retribution." The group vowed in late 2011 to carry out a large-scale attack in Nairobi in retaliation for Kenya's sending troops into Somalia to fight the Islamic insurgents.
The Westgate mall, a popular spot for wealthy Kenyans and tourists, appeared chosen to maximize the global impact of the assault.
Formally named Harakat al-Shabab al-Mujahideen (HSM), but commonly known as al-Shabab, the group has been fighting to overthrow the Somali Transitional Federal Government (TFG), which is supported by the African Union and Western nations, since its founding in 2004. Designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. and other Western governments, the group is aligned with al Qaeda and aims to establish an Islamist government in Somalia.
NBC News' Richard Esposito, Charlene Gubash, Andrea Mitchell and Kristen Welker; WNBC's Jonathan Dienst; and Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Obviously, Islamic fundies have a problem with the infidel Mrs. Fields Cookies at the food court. Allah Snackbar!
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 21, 2013, 11:26:48 PM
Allah Snackbar!
You have been waiting to use that for a long time I bet...
C'mon, that one's awesome.
You left the u off of Allahu. :weep:
:D
It was good, but we are a tough audience.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 21, 2013, 11:37:02 PM
You left the u off of Allahu. :weep:
SON OF A
I'll make up for it the next time they go after an Orange Jewlius.
QuoteGunmen stormed a crowded shopping mall frequented by Westerners on Saturday in the Kenyan capital of Nairobi in a terror attack, leaving at least 39 dead, Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta said. The U.S. State Department said American citizens were reportedly among the approximately 150 injured.
The militant Islamic group al-Shabab, based in neighboring Somalia, claimed responsibility for the attack via Twitter, saying it was in retaliation "for the lives of innocent Muslims" killed by Kenyan forces leading an African Union offensive against al-Shabab.
Manish Turohit, 18, who hid in a parking garage for two hours before leaving in a line of 15 people who exited with their hands in the air to avoid being shot, told al-Jazeera that gunmen carrying AK-47s and wearing vests with hand grenades on them stormed into the mall
Obviously a gun control problem.
Quote from: 11B4V on September 22, 2013, 01:19:48 AM
QuoteGunmen stormed a crowded shopping mall frequented by Westerners on Saturday in the Kenyan capital of Nairobi in a terror attack, leaving at least 39 dead, Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta said. The U.S. State Department said American citizens were reportedly among the approximately 150 injured.
The militant Islamic group al-Shabab, based in neighboring Somalia, claimed responsibility for the attack via Twitter, saying it was in retaliation "for the lives of innocent Muslims" killed by Kenyan forces leading an African Union offensive against al-Shabab.
Manish Turohit, 18, who hid in a parking garage for two hours before leaving in a line of 15 people who exited with their hands in the air to avoid being shot, told al-Jazeera that gunmen carrying AK-47s and wearing vests with hand grenades on them stormed into the mall
Obviously a gun control problem.
Well, yeah. Guns smuggling around Somalia has long been a problem.
Caulties up to 68 dead, 175 wounded :(
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/22/world/africa/kenya-mall-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-21/kenya-nairobi-mall-shooting-terrorist-group-in-deadly-attack/4973210
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Five Americans involved!? :wacko:
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/23/20654343-closing-in-on-the-attackers-gunfire-blasts-as-bloody-kenya-mall-siege-enters-3rd-day?lite
Quote'Closing in on the attackers': Gunfire, blasts as bloody Kenya mall siege enters 3rd day
By Alexander Smith, NBC News contributor
Gunfire and explosions were heard at a shopping mall in Kenya's capital early Monday as a hostage standoff which has left at least 68 people dead entered its third day.
The FBI said it was investigating reports that as many as five Americans were among the group of al Qaeda-linked terrorists who raided the Westgate mall in Nairobi on Saturday.
The military-style, lunchtime assault by squads of attackers hurling grenades and spraying automatic fire also resulted in at least 175 injuries, including many children.
A military official said late Sunday that "most" of the hostages had been freed.
David Kimaiyo, the inspector general of Kenya's police, posted on his Twitter account Monday that there had been further rescues overnight and "very few are remaining."
He added: "We are also closing in on the attackers."
Kenyan security forces were being assisted by Israeli and Western experts. "We will not negotiate with terrorists," said Colonel Cyrus Oguna, a Kenyan military spokesman.
Late on Sunday, Kenya's National Disaster Operation Centre said on Twitter that "this will end tonight. Our forces will prevail."
However, Kenyan Red Cross official Abbas Guled told Reuters there had been clashes inside the building after daybreak on Monday, and journalists said they heard heavy bursts of gunfire from inside the building, which features several Israeli-owned shops.
An al-Shabab spokesman claimed Kenyan security forces had attempted an unsuccessful raid on the complex.
"Israelis and Kenyan forces have tried to enter Westgate by force but they could not," Sheikh Ali Mohamud Rage said in an online audio statement. "The mujahedeen will kill the hostages if the enemies use force."
Al-Shabab said the attack, which targeted non-Muslims, was in retribution for Kenyan forces' 2011 push into neighboring Somalia.
Reuters said the group of terrorists numbered between 10 and 15. Witnesses said the attackers had AK-47 rifles and wore ammunition belts.
One woman, who gave her name as Cecilia as she emerged from the mall Sunday, told Reuters she had seen three of the attackers.
"They were shooting from the exit ramp, shooting everywhere," she said. "I saw people being shot all around me, some with blood pouring from bad wounds. I was just praying, praying, 'God, keep me alive' and that my day hadn't come."
Video taken by someone inside the mall's main department store when the assault began also emerged. The video showed frightened and unsure shoppers crouching as long and loud volleys of gunfire could be heard.
"My father was sitting down for coffee with his brother when they heard gunfire coming from the street," one Kenyan told the U.K.'s Independent newspaper after escaping the mall with his family. "They immediately hit the ground and then heard three loud explosions. The people at the next table were all shot and died."
Several British newspapers such as the Daily Mail suggested that the notorious "White Widow" – a British Islamic convert called Samantha Lewthwaite whose husband was one of the July 7, 2005 bombings targeting London's public transport network – was behind the attack. She is known to have spent time in Kenya.
However, the British Foreign Office said it is unwilling to speculate on Lewthwaite's involvement.
This weekend's assault is the biggest attack in Kenya since al Qaeda's East Africa cell bombed the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi in 1998, killing more than 200 people.
No U.S. citizens have been reported dead, although five Americans have been injured. Several foreigners, including three Britons and a Canadian, were killed. "We should prepare ourselves for further bad news," British Prime Minister David Cameron said.
Elaine Dang, 26, was among the Americans injured in the attack, NBC San Diego reported.
Kenya sent troops into Somalia in October 2011 to pursue militants whom it accused of kidnapping tourists and attacking its security forces.
Al-Shabab's last big attack outside Somalia was a double bombing in Uganda, targeting people watching the World Cup final on television in Kampala in 2010, killing 77 people.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 23, 2013, 05:39:21 AM
Five Americans involved!? :wacko:
How else would they get all those guns? :P
Three large explosions, the mall is in flames and echoing gunfire as the police and army storm the building!
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/23/20654343-closing-in-on-the-attackers-gunfire-blasts-as-bloody-kenya-mall-siege-enters-3rd-day?lite
QuoteThree large explosions were heard at a shopping mall in Kenya's capital early Monday as a hostage standoff which left at least 68 people dead entered its third day.
The blasts occurred shortly after 6 a.m. ET. Black smoke was also seen billowing from the complex. Heavy bursts of gunfire had been heard early Monday.
I was at a mall the other day, and checking out the Vans store.
Hilarious to see the classic black-and-white checkered slip-ons, the same ones I was buying in 1983. Do the kids still write on them these days?
The people linked to it, according to Die Welt.
Ismael G., 23, Helsinki (Finland)
Ahmed Nasir S., 24, London (UK)
Qasim Said M., 22, Garissa (Kenya)
Said D., 23, Damascus (Syria)
Mohamed B., 25, Aleppo (Syria)
Mustafe N., 27, Kansas City (USA)
Abdikarem Ali M., 21, Illinois (USA)
Abdifatah Osman K., 24, Minneapolis (USA)
Abdishakur Sheikh H., 22, Maine (USA)
Ahmed Mohamed I. 22, Saint Paul (USA)
Shafie D., 25, Tuscon (USA)
Abdirazak M., 24, Ontario (Kanada)
Eliko M., 27, Dagestan (Russland)
Mohammed A., 21. Sweden
Moulid A., 24, Sweden
None from C-Dub? Shocking. I was looking for a Somali running around with a sweater vest holding a AK.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2013, 11:24:32 PM
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:hmm: That has to be a photo-op, right? :unsure:
Quote from: Syt on September 23, 2013, 07:14:48 AM
Shafie D., 25, Tuscon (USA)
That sounds like a rapper name. :cool:
Quote from: Syt on September 23, 2013, 07:14:48 AM
The people linked to it, according to Die Welt.
Ismael G., 23, Helsinki (Finland)
Ahmed Nasir S., 24, London (UK)
Qasim Said M., 22, Garissa (Kenya)
Said D., 23, Damascus (Syria)
Mohamed B., 25, Aleppo (Syria)
Mustafe N., 27, Kansas City (USA)
Abdikarem Ali M., 21, Illinois (USA)
Abdifatah Osman K., 24, Minneapolis (USA)
Abdishakur Sheikh H., 22, Maine (USA)
Ahmed Mohamed I. 22, Saint Paul (USA)
Shafie D., 25, Tuscon (USA)
Abdirazak M., 24, Ontario (Kanada)
Eliko M., 27, Dagestan (Russland)
Mohammed A., 21. Sweden
Moulid A., 24, Sweden
Always those crazy Swedes. And the Minneapolis guy is probably Swedish-American.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 23, 2013, 05:39:21 AM
Five Americans involved!? :wacko:
A lot of Somali-Americans in Al Shabab.
This seems like something that foreign special forces could've helped with :(
Quote from: Syt on September 23, 2013, 07:14:48 AM
The people linked to it, according to Die Welt.
Ismael G., 23, Helsinki (Finland)
Ahmed Nasir S., 24, London (UK)
Qasim Said M., 22, Garissa (Kenya)
Said D., 23, Damascus (Syria)
Mohamed B., 25, Aleppo (Syria)
Mustafe N., 27, Kansas City (USA)
Abdikarem Ali M., 21, Illinois (USA)
Abdifatah Osman K., 24, Minneapolis (USA)
Abdishakur Sheikh H., 22, Maine (USA)
Ahmed Mohamed I. 22, Saint Paul (USA)
Shafie D., 25, Tuscon (USA)
Abdirazak M., 24, Ontario (Kanada)
Eliko M., 27, Dagestan (Russland)
Mohammed A., 21. Sweden
Moulid A., 24, Sweden
The International Jihadist Asshole Union or what is this shit? :huh:
Quote from: Zanza on September 23, 2013, 01:09:01 PM
The International Jihadist Asshole Union or what is this shit? :huh:
Somali diaspora.
The British press were reporting they were being led by the convert widow of one of the 7/7 bombers. Don't know if that's true though.
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 23, 2013, 01:03:30 PM
This seems like something that foreign special forces could've helped with :(
They did. Think guys with little beanies.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 23, 2013, 12:53:58 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 23, 2013, 05:39:21 AM
Five Americans involved!? :wacko:
A lot of Somali-Americans in Al Shabab.
Hey, if they are going to do these things, it's better they do in another country.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 23, 2013, 12:53:58 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 23, 2013, 05:39:21 AM
Five Americans involved!? :wacko:
A lot of Somali-Americans in Al Shabab.
Looks like those drones being deployed over the USA will have some fighting use after all! :ph34r:
Christ, how long does it take to retake a fucking shopping mall? Should've sent in a pack of junior high school girls, it'd be over by closing time.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 23, 2013, 09:03:19 PM
Hey, if they are going to do these things, it's better they do in another country.
Why?
Less chance of me getting offed. Duh.
Now that's luck.
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/24/20680008-they-werent-asking-any-questions-they-were-just-shooting-american-survivor-recounts-kenyan-siege-horror?lite
Quote'They weren't asking any questions, they were just shooting': American survivor recounts Kenyan siege horror
By Tom Costello and Becky Bratu, NBC News
A chance table change during lunch may have led to an American woman surviving the horrific siege at a Kenyan mall over the weekend.
On Saturday afternoon, Bendita Malakia, a Harvard-trained lawyer with the World Bank, was at the upscale Westgate shopping center in Nairobi to meet a colleague for lunch.
But, before the carnage began, the two friends decided to switch tables because they didn't like the one they were at.
When they sat down at the second table, "we had a drink, and we're chatting, and then all of a sudden there's this explosion," Malakia told NBC News after arriving in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday.
"The gentleman who had taken my [old] seat must have gotten shot immediately because he was basically on the floor, on the ground, like dead right next to the chair that I was sitting in," said Malakia.
People around them then began crawling, attempting to escape, but a second explosion rocked the scene just moments after the first one.
The heavily-armed militants from the Somalia-based al Shabaab staged a shooting massacre that killed some 61 civilians and 6 security officers and shattered countless lives. As the assault developed, the terrorists began letting Muslims go and only targeting people of other faiths.
"When they first came in, they were just shooting. They weren't asking any questions, they were just shooting," Malakia said. "Later, they tried to differentiate on religion, but at first they were just shooting."
Crawling away from the gunfire, Malakia and her friend made it to an employee break room in a nearby store, where they waited with about 15 other people — but still able to hear what was happening in other parts of the luxury shopping complex.
"People are screaming, you hear lots of running, gunshots, explosions, and there's all sorts of things," she said. "Some of the older women especially are hyperventilating, it's just kind of, it's complete chaos, it's mostly gunshots and screaming and running at that point."
Malakia said she could hear the gunmen's voices and occasionally people asking them not to shoot. Using someone else's phone, she sent a text message to her father, asking him to pray for her.
"It was terrifying, we all had a very real sense that we were going to die," Malakia said.
She and the others with her survived by hiding for five hours in the back room of the store until what she called an "American security team" showed up to rescue them.
Malakia said the group was told: "'If you guys want to get out, we understand it's dangerous but this is probably your best shot. If you don't get out now you may not get out.'"
So, they all made a beeline for the exit and ran out of the mall — where she said two grenades thrown about 30 feet away caused her to emotionally break down, even as she had finally escaped.
Kenya's president Tuesday said security forces have killed five terrorists and arrested 11 suspects in connection with the attack, bringing to a close four days of chaos and carnage.
Malakia said she doesn't yet know whether she'll ever return to Kenya, but for now, she said she is still trying to process the events she's been through -- and spend time with her family, who said they were scared to death of losing her.
"She was my lucky number seven -- that's what I always call her -- my lucky number seven, after four still borns and two miscarriages," Lue Malakia, her mother, said.
"I'm scared to death that I'm going to lose her."
Quote from: Maximus on September 24, 2013, 01:07:29 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 23, 2013, 09:03:19 PM
Hey, if they are going to do these things, it's better they do in another country.
Why?
Yeah, why? In the USA they'd have the NRA on their side.
Chanel Four news here says it has confirmed reports that the leader of this Al-Sabah assult was ......
A Kenyan, former member of their special forces, born a Christian converted to Islam, went to Somalia in 2005, where he was training their militiamen in martial arts etc.
A second attacker was named, a somali who'd worked in an isalmic bookshop in Eastleigh, Nairobi, then left for Somali, where he spent time in a CIA prison near the airport in Mogadishu.
No mention yet of the 'white widow'
First of all, why is the NYPD investigating this? Secondly, if this is true there are whole lot people in Kenya who need to be fired.
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/10/21849660-only-four-shooters-at-kenya-mall-and-they-may-have-escaped-alive-says-nypd?lite
QuoteOnly four shooters at Kenya mall and they may have escaped alive, says NYPD
By Tom Winter
NBC News
Only four men may have carried out the attack on a Kenyan mall that killed more than 60 civilians in September, and they probably escaped alive, according to an NYPD report made public Tuesday.
The report debunked many of the assertions made by Kenyan authorities, who claimed that as many as 15 attackers were involved, including some who might be foreign nationals, and that they were holding hostages.
More than 60 civilians and six soldiers died in the Sept. 21 assault by terrorists from the al Qaeda-affiliated group al Shabaab on the Westgate Mall in Nairobi. After a two-day siege and a series of explosions, Kenyan authorities said they had cleared the mall and killed four attackers.
At a Manhattan press conference Tuesday morning, New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said investigators didn't know "with certainty" how many people were involved, "but we believe there were only four shooters."
The NYPD report also said the attackers carried only light weapons, and that there is no evidence any of them tried to take hostages or remained in the mall after 12:15 a.m. on Sept. 22. It also said the female British jihadi known as the "White Widow" was probably never in the mall, despite tabloid rumors, and that the Kenyan military looted the high-end shopping complex.
Lt. Detective Commander Kevin Yorke, who prepared and presented the report, also questioned the Kenyan authorities' theory that the attackers died when explosions collapsed portions of the mall.
"As a cop, I'm very skeptical of claims until I see proof," said Yorke, and added that there is "a lot of doubt in my mind it is true."
The NYPD sent several detectives to Nairobi with the New York Joint Terrorism Task Force to investigate the assault, and Yorke assembled their findings into the report.
According to the NYPD's reconstruction of events, the four attackers operated in two-man teams and coordinated their movements by cellphone. After throwing three grenades and entering the mall, they used AK-47s in single-fire mode to shoot their victims. More than one-third of the dead were attending a children's cooking contest that was being held in tents in the mall's roof parking lot. The attackers killed them within 15 minutes of arriving at the mall.
The report said the attackers had grenades and several hundred bullets in eight magazines, but no body armor, handguns or heavy weapons. They did not try to take hostages, but killed as many victims as they could, sparing some who could recite Muslim prayers or name the Prophet Mohammed's mother. A Russian hand grenade was found on the roof with the pin removed but unexploded.
No women were involved. Rumors had circulated during the siege that British citizen Samantha Lewthwaite, the widow of a suicide bomber who attacked the London train system and killed 26 people as part of the "7/7" plot.
The NYPD report credits private security guards and personnel with clearing many people from the mall, though some may have fired on each other since they didn't use badges. Some civilians "played dead" as the terrorists walked past, while others who tried to hide, many in small stores, were shot dead.
Kenyan law enforcement initially thought they were responding to an armed robbery at the mall. The first Kenyan tactical team didn't arrive until 1:45 p.m., about 90 minutes after the attack began, and the Kenyan police commissioner arrived at 1:50 p.m.
The police department tactical team entered the mall at 3 p.m., without police markings or identifications, and were fired on by Kenyan soldiers, killing the commander of the unit.
According to the NYPD report, the responding Kenyans "had no idea what the mall looked like internally," and didn't know they could access the closed circuit television system.
One terrorist was shot in the leg. The shooters tilted or destroyed cameras in order to hide their whereabouts. By 6 p.m. they were in a mall storeroom near the loading docks, and waited there for six hours, tending their wounded comrade and praying. They can no longer be seen on closed circuit footage after 12:15 p.m., when the NYPD believes they slipped away.
The siege continued for two more days. In his presentation, Yorke dismissed the Kenyan government's claims that 10 to 15 shooters were involved or that the terrorists had created smoke by setting mattresses on fire. He said he didn't know what had caused the mall to collapse, but said the Kenyan military may have used rocket-propelled grenades and anti-tank missiles on the building, and that heat from fires caused by the explosions may have weakened the poorly built structure.
Yorke said that while the Kenyan military may not have killed any of the attackers, there was "significant" physical and video evidence that they had looted the mall.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 10, 2013, 06:06:45 PM
First of all, why is the NYPD investigating this?
I don't know why you're so surprised, since this is what they do.
QuoteSecondly, if this is true there are whole lot people in Kenya who need to be fired.
I don't know why you're so surprised, since this is what they do.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 11, 2013, 01:01:19 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 10, 2013, 06:06:45 PM
First of all, why is the NYPD investigating this?
I don't know why you're so surprised, since this is what they do.
Apparantly Timmay doesn't even read his own articles. They were investigating as part of an anti-terrorism task force:
Quote
The NYPD sent several detectives to Nairobi with the New York Joint Terrorism Task Force to investigate the assault
I read it but I don't care for the explanation.
Should NYC have an Joint Terrorism Task Force, sure. Should it be flying off to Kenya to investigate a mall massacre. I don't think so.
Lord Timothy does not care for the explanation.
Well, that takes care of that then.
:D
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 11, 2013, 08:17:38 AM
Lord Timothy does not care for the explanation.
:bowler:
IT WASN'T A COMPLIMENT, YOU KNOB.
:lol: