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Poll
Question: Who Contributed Most to Humanity in the 18th and 19th Centuries?
Option 1: Engineers votes: 23
Option 2: Lawyers votes: 0
Option 3: Broadly Similar votes: 1
Option 4: Don't Know votes: 1
Title: 18th and 19th Century Thunderdome - Engineers Vs Lawyers
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2013, 04:48:01 PM
Prompted by Sav and Ide's comments in another thread, I'd like to know quite group contributed most to humanity during the 18th and 19th centuries ?

And if your using examples in your argument then the individual you champion, must have practised as least one quarter of their career during that century.

I didn't broaden it out to include the 20th century for obvious reasons.  :ph34r:

Title: Re: 18th and 19th Century Thunderdome - Engineers Vs Lawyers
Post by: Valmy on September 15, 2013, 04:54:15 PM
I am about to interview for Engineering internships in a couple days so...obviously being an Engineer is the highest profession to which a human being could aspire.
Title: Re: 18th and 19th Century Thunderdome - Engineers Vs Lawyers
Post by: Ideologue on September 15, 2013, 04:54:32 PM
Engineers by a factor of one thousand.
Title: Re: 18th and 19th Century Thunderdome - Engineers Vs Lawyers
Post by: dps on September 15, 2013, 04:58:46 PM
Thing is, back is those days, especially the earlier parts, a man might well be both.  And a linguist, and a businessman, and a historian, and, well, you get the idea.
Title: Re: 18th and 19th Century Thunderdome - Engineers Vs Lawyers
Post by: Neil on September 15, 2013, 05:06:51 PM
Has a lawyer ever contributed to humanity in a positive way?
Title: Re: 18th and 19th Century Thunderdome - Engineers Vs Lawyers
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 15, 2013, 05:09:44 PM
I think I mentioned before that historically left revolutions have drawn disproportionate support from lawyers and right revolutions (including islamists) have drawn disproportionate support from engineers.
Title: Re: 18th and 19th Century Thunderdome - Engineers Vs Lawyers
Post by: Razgovory on September 15, 2013, 05:43:47 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 15, 2013, 05:09:44 PM
I think I mentioned before that historically left revolutions have drawn disproportionate support from lawyers and right revolutions (including islamists) have drawn disproportionate support from engineers.

I don't recall you mentioning this before.
Title: Re: 18th and 19th Century Thunderdome - Engineers Vs Lawyers
Post by: grumbler on September 15, 2013, 07:44:46 PM
I'm only going to say this once: good question, Mongers!  :P

I had a hard time deciding, and was astonished to see the results when I did decide.  I counted the Philosphs as lawyers, though, so for me it was Enlightenment versus Industrial Revolution.  Maybe others did not see it that way, though.
Title: Re: 18th and 19th Century Thunderdome - Engineers Vs Lawyers
Post by: DGuller on September 15, 2013, 08:00:13 PM
It's really hard to compare the two.  Lawyers are important to civil societies, since well-entrenched rule of law seems to be what keeps societies from sliding into autocracies.  On the other hand, it's hard to imagine modern societies without all the technological innovations that have been made in the rather unusual last couple of centuries.